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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Control arm Bushings

Did some much needed work on my max today. I put in new KYB GR2 struts, Replaced the control arm bushings with Energy Suspension ones, New CV Shaft on the pass side and a FSTB. WOW it's like having a new car. The control arm bushings where really wasted bad at 165k. I did everything myself for a total cost of $250
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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How were the bushings? I have a set here but never installed them
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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How were the bushings? I have a set here but never installed them
Are you willing to sell the bushings?
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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not really, jerryromenissas.com has them for liek 20 shipped
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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The bushings where easy to change. I was changing the struts so I had most of it apart anyway. If the sleeves are not rusted on like mine where you could probably do it under the car. I paid $30 shipped.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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I went on the Energy Suspension website and couldn't find the bushings for my car, I can't find them anywhere. I know I need them bad too.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian112597
I went on the Energy Suspension website and couldn't find the bushings for my car, I can't find them anywhere. I know I need them bad too.
http://www.suspension.com/nissancars.htm

I also have to replace mine, but not sure how hard it'll be
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Thanks for that thread, couldn't find them anywhere. I have some friends at CarX that might be able to hook us up, I'll talk to them today.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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I just called Nissan and they said that the lower control arm bushings cant be replaced, we would have to order replacement lower control arms. The only bushings that could be replaced for Gen 4 are the Stabilizer link bushing (2 per side) and the Stabilizer bushing itself (1 per side).
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JaTaN
http://www.suspension.com/nissancars.htm

I also have to replace mine, but not sure how hard it'll be
JaTaN - lmk when/if you do this... I might want to do this too - maybe we can hook up... you can edu-ma-cate me...
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Haha, I was hoping someone else would know since I never done it I'll look at my Haynes manual when I get home and see if there are good directions in there

Maybe all 3 of us (or more - we can ask in the regional section) can meet up and get it done. With 3 or more people, we should be able to figure it out
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/nis2.html
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JaTaN
Haha, I was hoping someone else would know since I never done it
Chicago-area bushing-meet!

I need to go do some as well... I assume we'll need alignments after this as well... I want to do all the bushings at the same time... its getting cold already though... maybe wait until spring?
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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I can't wait till spring, my car needs it yesterday. JoeB That link indicates the bushings are for the sway bar, not the control arms. Thats what i was talking about, according to Nissan we have to replace the whole control arm. That could be very expensive. As for the sway bar stuff, I could get that done cheap from my CarX friends.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian112597
JoeB That link indicates the bushings are for the sway bar, not the control arms.
From that JoeB link, here are the catalog numbers for the parts you need:

Maxima 1995-99

control-arm bushing set: 7.3111
sway-bar frame bushings: 20mm 7.5118
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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The rest of this week looks like 50-60 degree weather, but not sure when the bushings will get here and not sure how it'll be around Thanksgiving weekend. I want to get it done soon, but I'll see how the weather turns out.

The website I gave says:
FRONT END CONTROL ARM BUSHING SET
MAXIMA 1995-99
7-3111 $28.00
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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I'm all for you guys (JaTaN && Adrian) doing it first and then showing the rest of us how! I need to inspect mine and see if I really need them anyway... with 111k on the max - I'm sure it wouldn't hurt!
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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I'm going to call them and confirm before i place an order, give me a half an hour and i will let you guys know
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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just got off the phone with Tom, he told me these are the right bushings for the lower control arms and the only reason nissan nissan doesnt sell them is because they want to make more money. You guys are right. Tom told me to get the old bushings off you need to torch em out and just pop in the new ones.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrian112597
just got off the phone with Tom, he told me these are the right bushings for the lower control arms and the only reason nissan nissan doesnt sell them is because they want to make more money. You guys are right. Tom told me to get the old bushings off you need to torch em out and just pop in the new ones.
Good sleuthing... now let me know how you do it or where you go and if you can share the hook-up I'll be forever grateful - In fact, I'm on my way right now! heh heh. Are you going to do both the control arm and sway bar bushings at the same time?

JaTan - let's go chase down Adrian - up in Palatine.. I'm 20 mins away!
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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Thats a good Idea guys! I plan on doing both at the same time
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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I need to replace both control arm and sway bar bushings. Adrian, see how much the CarX where your friends work charge for it. I'll probably start asking at Midas/CarX/Meineke around here probably tomorrow or Wednesday.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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I'll stop bye tonight after work and work something out. Did you order your parts yet?
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Just got home. Tried calling them right now, but I'm getting the busy signal. I'll keep trying every few minutes and place the order today

EDIT - just placed the order. They'll ship it tomorrow and it'll be here in like 5 days
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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I did not have to burn mine out. The factory bushing have a metal sleeve on both the inside and outside of the bushing. My rubber was so shot I just pulled them apart and cut the sleeves with a sawzall a little. Taped it a few times with a hammer and chisel and they poped right out. When you do I recommend pulling out the 6 big bolts under the car and taking the whole arm off (with the front pivot arm) so you can work in a vice. It will also require poping the lower ball joint and disconnecting the sway bar link. I should have brought my digital camera with me and took some pics. Sorry guys
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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control arm bushing = ball joint bushing???
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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I believe that they are two different bushings
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Does anyone know if you have to get an alignment after you replace the control arm bushings?
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Yes Definitely!!!
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Biggest difference is the inner bushing

The bushing that will make the biggest difference in ride/steering is that big one at the inner end of the control arm. I recently has to replace my lower control arms (due to worn out ball joints) and my mechanic accidently used the stock bushings. The steering felt sluggish, and after checking, I realized what had happened so I brought it back and had him put the Energy Suspension bushings in. Huge difference, the steering felt really tight and precise. I didn't really feel a major difference between the stock end link bushings and the ES ones, or the other bushings (don't know what the other ones are called).
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Just wanted to chime in since control arm bushings have been my life for 2 weeks. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=351814

Taking off the 3 bolts holding the arm is easy. Just be careful as I found my bolts closest to the outside very worn due to thread shear. Loosening up the strut knuckle bolts can help too. On the ES bushings, make sure you use the washers they supply intstead of the OEM triangle ones. They're 1mm smaller in inner diam (17.7mm vs 18.7mm) and round not triangular for more strength. 4 total, one each end, each arm. Adding, subtracting, changing the washers can screw up your alignment. My camber remained constant but my toe varied by as much as 3deg afterwards.
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