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Y-Pipe Longevity... for once...

Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Y-Pipe Longevity... for once...

the topic of discussion when it comes to y pipes is always price, fitment, etc...

hardly do we talk about the longevity of them... by that i mean, do they eventually start the bees in a can noise? are you going to need a shop to weld in a new flex section? things like that, that i am sure people would stay away from if they knew it would happen after awhile...

i see a lot of people jumping on the $160 gd (old now) for the wsp Ys... well yeah, the price is right, but there is an abundance of cases of the bees in a can, whether it be 2-3 bees, or the whole hive...

personally, id rather go for a y pipe that won't do that... and i have yet to hear of cattmans doing that and i don't recall budgets making the sound...

can people touch on different y-pipes and the experiences they've had with them to educate the org (and myself) on the longevity different ones?

just post your setup, and what you think about it... if ya dont mind!?!?

thanks
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Not everyone's y pipe has bees in a can. I've read a lot about warpspeed and budget, and there are a few that have had that problem (in most case the pipe is hitting something) and its usually easily fixed.

As for the life of the ypipe, many ppl may think stainless steel will not rust. STAINLESS STEEL WILL ALSO RUST, BUT NOT AS QUICK AS ALUMINIZED. Our cars come with a factory Y pipe made of aluminized steel, so if you think about it, your car has lasted all this time and you're worried about a little rust now?


Just my opinion.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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I haven't had any problems with my Budget. I purchased it back in July but only recently installed it.

I had a slight rattle after the install but I traced it to the heatshield on the cat. Fixed.

I get a low rasp between 1,000-2,000rpm but I've traced that to my muffler. The outside shell was already rusting when I got the car. Either it has rusted through now or the y-pipe has magnified the noise.

I am happy with the Budget.

Get some exhaust wrap and wrap the flex.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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I have a cattman y pipe, and its the most quiet y pipe i ever heard, compared to others.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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Warpspeed y-pipe, stock cat back. No bees, hardly any noise change at all. def. feel it tho.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 03:47 AM
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thanks everyone, i still want to hear more though because im sure not everyones is the same...

see personally, id pay a little more for cattman... but it'd be so easy to just go budget...
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismotic
Our cars come with a factory Y pipe made of aluminized steel,
The factory Y is made mostly of cast iron.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
The factory Y is made mostly of cast iron.
Are you serious? I know the stock headers are cast iron, but I find it hard to believe that the stock Y is. Very hard to believe. But if you have support for your statement, let's hear it.

Given that the stock Y weighs maybe 30-40% more than an aftermarket Y, there's no way that the stock Y could be mostly cast iron given the extra junk such as pre-cats, heat shields, etc. I could believe that there are some little iron parts in the there but the main tubing has to be steel. Plus, iron rusts faster than steel so why would Nissan bother?
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Yeah, that what I read before. Not sure where though...
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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all y-pipes have warranties, including the cheap warpspeed ones. Normally 3-5 years. At this time of age, most people expect to keep their cars for that long, maybe not longer and if you can get 5 years out of a 160 dollar pipe, i think thats great. By then, in most cases, people will move up to boost where they'll upgrade their piping anyway and if not, spending another 160 for another 5 years is still better than 300 for the limited warranty you get. People prefer cheapness and i still think its pretty good for the 3-5 years u have waranty for.


I have personally taken advantage of a warpspeed y-pipe. It works, takes a little patience but it beats throwing down twice the price the first time. Nissan owners, or should i say org owners have a strong rep for being EXTRA cheap .
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
Are you serious? I know the stock headers are cast iron, but I find it hard to believe that the stock Y is. Very hard to believe. But if you have support for your statement, let's hear it.
Hmm, after a closer look at some photos, I don't think it really is cast iron. Just mild steel.

Nevermind carry on...
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Cast iron weights a ton.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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warpspeed. i've seen somewhere what the avg. life of a warpspeed y is at least but i can't remember exactly maybe ~8 years i dunno.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ogparjay
warpspeed. i've seen somewhere what the avg. life of a warpspeed y is at least but i can't remember exactly maybe ~8 years i dunno.

WTF?

How can you say that? Warpspeed hasn't even been around for 8 years.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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The OEM exhaust after the exhaust manifolds is a low grade stainless steel which does rust with age.

My non-mandrel alumnized WSP y-pipe doesn't have a drop of rust on it after 3 salty Midwestern winters. IMO, it's a waste of money to use high grade stainless on the exhaust. What's the point? Do you really plan on driving the car for 20 years

As for bees in the can, my WSP has a lined flex section and I haven't had problems, but remember that you will get a hiss from the y-pipe regardless if you have a lined flex section or not. The lined flex sections are quite a bite quieter. I would know since I owned a Stillen Y-pipe prior to my WSP. Much of the hiss comes from the thinner wall tubing and lack of precats (which do suppress noise).
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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doesn't cattman use that shorter flex section? i saw a picture, but it may of been a prototype... doesn't that quiet it down some more?

anyone else with some budget ys?
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