nismo2020

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i have seen a lot 4th gens with projectors retro-fitted into the stock housing. for the most part all of them look okay but is it just me or does the single projector in the housing look kinda beedy eyed? i want hids back in my car. i already had hids in at one time but they werent reliable at all. the next step is projectors. im confident i can put them in but i hate they way it looks with just one projector in there .. this is what i want to do -->



this is the only dual projector set up i have ever seen for our car and i have no details on it. has anybody attemtped this yet ? i have been looking around to find the smallest projectors . i figure if i do get them in my next problem would be how to wire it. any inputs are welcome.

Max_N_Action

YEA....the one projector i think looks stupid....the ones in the picture would look dope tho....the one projector just looks like the car has bug eyes....

PKaiser

i like both setups unless they are done crappy.

Bonka

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I think a single projector looks great.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=341426
What's wrong with that?

AFAIK, the dual setup needed a custom mold as the entire backing had to be cut off and a new mold made to hold the both projectors.

There's a small blip about it here: http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/car...projectors.htm

nismo2020

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whoa thats what im looking for.. imports set up looks very nice, but like i said i think it looks better with two projectors. thanx

gtr_rider

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Hey carl..

I agree, I never really liked the one projector look and having to black out the rear

BlueC

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Its just different in person trust me. But everyone has their opinions and I respect others. Its my car, I do what I want... thats how it is.

As for the two projector thing, the more ive looked into it, the more I think it wont be easy. First off, the entire headlight would have the back completly cut off, which means custom fabrication. Which I don't have the time for.

Ive got 2 sets of projectors, this is my current route im thinking:

Bi-xenon(working) projectors in the headlights, only 1 set.
Single Xenon projectors in the foglights.

It would be easier because I can aim the foglights far since they are so low to the ground.

Yes 2 projectors would look nice in each headlights, but its really not cost-effective imo. Not to mention, the headlights would be more prone to be stolen (2 in each, one hit steal).

Again, thats just my opinion, and with the research i've done, its what I have concluded.


EDIT: That picture up above with the "2 projectors" is not 2 projectors. Its a reflector next to a projector. You can see the bulb clearly in the left one, hence the reflector.

djshawnee

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how much would single projectors cost to do (if i already have the HID ballast and bulbs)? what all would i need, and how would i go about installing it myself? what about the retrofit kits, how much do they run for, and how are those installed?

nismo2020

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wassup luke .. like i said it just looks odd having a big housing with a little projector.

95bkackmax18s

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i really wouldn't care to have a single projector( they are ok) but the one up there with two looks pretty good, i will stick with my cefiro's .

Ant96GLE

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Wow those look sweet... they look like Accord projectors

nismo2020

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yeah i know about how it would look differnt in person .. some mods are like that espically if you have to do it yourself..

im not worried about it being stolen cause if its just one set of projectors or two im going to be equally upset.

i also realize its going to be a lot of work but thats what everybody said about just stuffing one set of projectors in our housings.

yeah i see that its a single projector set up with a reflector beside it , which is even better. that should make it cheaper and easier to wire. size wise it look like he could have put another projector in there. but that is the general direction i want to go in.

maxinitout

so theres nowhere where u can just buy those in the pic at???

nismo2020

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nope .... you have to make it yourself which is what my 2005 project will be

nismo2020

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well here is an hid projector package http://www.hidplanet.com/package.html

thats not expenive at all. there are quite a handful of 4th genners who have installed projectors. there is a guy with a biege 4th gen who put projectors (not hids) in his recently. he had a complete picture-step by step. he even got the projectors from what looked like an accord headlight. cant remember his name though.

BORQUA79

Single looks wierd.... Doubles a better look.....

Ladzio

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Hey, BlueC, in your bi-xenon projectors, what type of bulbs did you use (9007, H3 etc.) Also, as I understand, since projectors are the ones that aim beam hi or low, you do not need a bi-xenon bulb, like those that go into reflector housings.

Thanks!

chuckie311

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i like the single projector

VeeQueue

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hmm... when is custommaxima going to come out with those dual beam projector headlights?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=projectors


Its only been almost 3 yrs

imports_only1

HID projectors don't use 9007, 9004, H3, etc....but HID D2S bulbs! Bixenon projectors don't aim the beam hi or low but have a movable shield that goes up and down to allow more light to escape...thus giving you highbeam function. All this is accomplished by only using ONE D2S HID bulb...not a bixenon bulb. A bixenon bulb that moves up/down or outward/inward only comes in aftermarket kits.

I like the look of the double projectors more than mine, but like others have said, it'll take too much time and money to fabricate all that. If you got the money, go for it. It'll be unique. Performance wise, one bixenon hid projector per headlight is sufficient for me, as I don't go around flashing around my highbeams or drive with them on all the time. Just my thoughts!

ManualMaxima

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i likt the look of hid in the reflective housing better. The light is less useable and it bothers osme people, but i looks wise it looks better in the housing.

the picture above looks liek they took a cheap projector set out of a aftermarkey projector headlight, and stuffed them in there.

NightRider

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Whats to stop anyone from cutting the back of your housing flat and filling it with fiberglass? Its still a weekend project. It can be done easily.

nismo2020

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thats what im saying.. it doesnt seem horribly hard .. i wouldnt say a weekdend though maybe a two weeks everyday after work project .. im going to buy another set of headlights first then chop up my current ones

Gen8888

of course 2 projectors would look 10x better but you gotta work with what you got . If someone has the time to try to get 2 projectors to work, i'm all for it..

BlueC

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Its easier said than done. The whole problem is, to aim the projectors correctly, they have to sit angled inside the headlight. So fitting 2 in there, you would have to chop away most of the headlight for both to sit right.

Reason why I like single projectors, is mainly because I can use the stock aiming screws on the headlight to adjust the height. That saves me loads of time, cause I dont have to worry about how they sit in the headlight. If you have 2 in there, they have to sit perfectly identical with eachother for a good aim, and that would be a PITA to do correctly.

imports_only1

Sure, it can be a weekend projector but actually doing it is different from just saying it. If it was really that easy, there should be alot of these retroed headlights on the streets by then. Retrofitting a headlight properly with HID projectors isn't as easy as some may think. There are tidious little steps and processes that require planning, time, patience, and creativity. Not too many are willing to tackle this mod because of these very reasons. Thus, even the single xenon projector retrofits (like mine and BlueC) are few to begin with. It can be done, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes more than a weekend and maybe a second set of headlights for first time retrofitters. If I have the time and an extra set of headlights, I might tackle it...hahhahha! Anyways, good luck to whoever plans to do this retrofit. Make a DIY if you can so we all can try.

RockfordMax

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im goin 3 projector....wait and see....

driver824

someone here tried this before with not much luck.. he was using that picture as the base of his design. the only problem he had was that the he ran out of time and money and just got fustrated. i cant remeber his org name.. if anyone knows.. post.. but ill try to find out..

-blake

Ant96GLE

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Why you guys nit picking on every little thing.. hes doing dual projectors.. whether you think its cool or not, give him credit for trying. Your all b!tching on how hard it is to make them and aim them, let him do it and props for him accomplishing it and not sticking his tail between his legs like you guys.

In any case, me personally I'd get single and HID's in the fogs.. only because I'm a lazy bastard and I live in the city so I dont really need any big light out put. With angel eyes on the duals it would look sick.

imports_only1

Who's b*tching here????

NightRider

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Well I'm not a first time retrofitter as I have fit a set of Valeo projectors in my 300zx housings for HID. My idea was to cut the housing flat and fill it with fiberglass, Then you can cut the individual holes for the projector and reflector. The aiming is about the same as with a one projector retrofit. The only problem I see is with the aiming screws. I would have to look into whether or not they can be used with this setup. Otherwise some compromises will have to be made. I'm not trying this myself, but may help someone else tackle it in my area if they decide to go with it.

Ladzio

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Sorry, I did not make myself clear. I meant to ask if D2S/D2R Hid bulbs have same base to go in bulb holder or not (like aftermarket hid kits would have a D2S bulb with 9004 base so they could be secured in stock 4th gen housing). I am asking because I want to know what HID kit I should go with when retrofiting bi-xenons in my lights. My choice is either bi-xenons from S6 or E55 mercedes, right?

EDIT: found your powerpoint, great write up. Now I know what parts to look for. Would there be space for angel eyes, I wonder...

Ladzio

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I think to get philips ballasts from this GD. That's why I wnder what bulb base I should order for bi-xenon-projectors.

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...91#post2268391


EDIT: Scratch that, GD got cancelled.

Taken2DaMax

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The D2R/D2S have their own base, D2. That's what is most common in projectors. If I were you, go with something with a little more output like a A6 projector. They let a bit more light out than those e55s. A quality kit that would be your best bet is probably Phillips 4100k bulbs and Hella 3rd gen ballasts.

Ladzio

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What year A6 projector have bi-xenons?

This one is 2005. Can I use this headlight as a donor?