UNORTHODOX RACING Underdrive Pulley IS THIS WOTH GETTING??? PLEASE TELL ME NEED INFO BE FOR I GET IT ! do it do anything?

 

No its not

 

I like my ASP pulley for the 3-gen VE

 

I'm sure you werent too happy after you shelled out the money and installed it and found out it was just as slow

 

No really. I felt a definate difference. And I've had this thing on/off more than once. You must be a DaveB lover.

 

You must mean Dave B... DaveB is great at getting us parts

Probably my butt dyno was acting up after eating chinese but I couldnt really feel any difference... The engine felt like it was revving smoother but I took it off after I realized how much more my lights would dim when I had my system going...

 

So It's Not Worth It?

 

So you give up the performance parts for rice blingity stereo stuff. Holla! hehe

 

Yup I did... those racing/performance days in the max are over

I'll be getting another car for that and keep the Max as my grocery getter... its only fitting.

 

There are other mods I'd do first but if you are doing boltons, eventually I'd get an underdrive pulley.

 

Yeah? Like what?

 

LS1 Camaro SS

 

Did you just reply to a 4-gen thread about reliability??

Should be a fun car. Have fun Rosco!

 

I hope you werent going to catch on to that. Its actually a very long story that I only realized about 6 months ago... I basically got raped by the dealer I bought the car from... I realized it when I went to check my codes one day and I didnt get anything... I took my dash apart and realized the bulb for the CEL had been taken out

So ever since 6 months ago I've been having nothing but CEL's coming on and off. Whoever had the car before must've beat the crap out of it and not cared...

I feel like taking out the bulb again, it will solve all my problems again

Thanks... I should take advantage now that I'm still young and have no kids

 

im with him whats the consensus?

blingity - lol, nice word

 

i think its worth it...i definetly felt it especialy when i took out the a/c

 

That might change soon if u know wut I mean. Enjoy the visit from TN.

 

Dont jinx me

 

Over the span of 60 1/4 mile passes before, during, and after the UDP, the results were it didn't do jack crap. With the UDP my best ever was a 14.45@99.3mph. Without it I ran a best ever of 14.31@99.5mph. Same track, same conditions, similiar 60 foots. Without the UDP my car drives better and the VQ is smooth again. Draw your own conclusions

 

I've heard that the UDP doesnt do much for our cars

 

I took my car to Maximum Tuning to get my pulley installed. Now I'm in Staten Island and it's about an hour a change drive over there, so i had a very good feeling of what the car felt like. After I got it back and started driving home, I felt the engine rev quicker and smoother. I sure as hell felt the difference. On the highway, when I punched it would respond and accelerate faster. Now you may say it could be just your own imagination, it could very well be, but I didn't feel a difference when I swaped in one day the stock cat for an RT, and full catback. This one on the other hand I felt.
Just my own .02 cent. I don't consider myself a master on engine modding and all that, but I know my car very well and know what it can do or not.

 

lol ant in a camoro

it was joke

 

My comments about a light flywheel probably applies to an UDP also. Something like this might not show in a 1/4 pass. But that doesn't mean the engine is not making more hp.

 

All else being equal (which it never is), how can the car NOT be faster if the engine is making more power?

 

I would get and UDP but not UNORTHODOX's because it costs $200 got with a cheaper one like Definitive Motorsports or (the one I bought) Motostorm.

 

It might be. But since the 1/4 mile requires lots of driver input, there are too many varibles to accurately say. But if one drove the car at it's highest potential (ie.. w/ and w/o the udp), I'm going to guess that the 1/4 should go down.

But then again, drag cars use heavier flywheels to generate better 1/4 times, not lighter ones. At a drag race, you have the benefit of being able to generate stored energy at the starting line.

Try doing the 1/4 from just off idle.

 

The lightened UDP just revs quicker. With that being the case it may not be the best mod for 1/4 mile times but it would probably be better when your NOT racing from a stopped position. And it would be paired best with a MEVI/ECU combo seeing as with those you want to be in the highend power.

 

This would benefit everyone w/ or w/o the mevi or ecu.

 

well i being an automatic with a y-pipe,intake,catback, with the yipe and catback being first, felt that power. and with the addition of the intake i felt that power. But the only two mods i didnt feel power, but which i was suppose to are the ground wire kit and the crank pulley. But this week i will be getting my meviiiiiiiiii and after the snow suspenion package and jwt ecu thats the way i would go for minimum income excuse me

 

dont get the one from dmotorsports, they will mess up your block

 

No.

Any pulley without a brass sleeve will damage the crank seal, cauing a leak. It has nothing to do with the block.

 

oo ok. i thought that interferd with the way the connecting rods would move. neways my fault

 

The reason I say it mostly benefits people of with mevi/ecu is because that combo thrives on high end. We make our max power by 5600 rpms which isn't very high at all when it comes to high end power, having the rpms rev quicker to that point doesn't seem like it would be much of an improvement unless you were going much high like 7000 or so but I may be wrong because I'm not an auto engineer.

 

WHY DID YOU TAKE OUT THE A/C?

 

OK well If i dont take my car to the track and beat on it can i just put it on if i jsut cruse around and mess with people here or there is it worth it ?

 

Do you want your car to be faster or not?

That is the only question.

 

If you just want to mess with people then just get a cone filter. The engine will be much louder if you want to 'rev' at someone. Don't waste $100+ on a pulley if all you're looking for are scare-tactics.

 

The gains are pretty minimal... I'm not saying there arent going to be any but I guess if your really planning to suck out every ounce of power from the car it will make a difference...

At the track you probably wont see a difference but look at it this way... CAI = (for ex) 5HP + UDP 5HP + exhaust 5HP... it all adds up eventually...

 

the udp will never benifit with the exception of a smoother rev and uhhh nothing. plus when you go supercharged u have to take that junk off what did the pulley do for me i'll let u know when i find out

 

I noticed grainy vibration with the UDP because it doesn't have the elastomer damper ring like the stock pulley does.