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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 06:24 PM
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i am going to be buying new brake pads soon. i am just planning on going to the auto store and picking out one... unless someone here can sell me on a certain kind. thanks for the help. bags
Old Apr 23, 2001 | 06:35 PM
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Buy some good pads.... you won't regret it...

EBC
Stillen MM
Bendix Titanium... etc...

I'm sure others can recommend which...
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Chunger
Buy some good pads.... you won't regret it...

EBC
Stillen MM
Bendix Titanium... etc...

I'm sure others can recommend which...
away from the EBC pads, unless you want accelerated wear and a BOATLOAD of dusting.

At carparts.com, you can search for the following part numbers:

Front Brake Rotor: JBR-505 $45 @carparts.com

Front Brake Pads:
Metalmaster: 23-430-01 $47 (Recommended)
Metal-LU: 24-430-01 $26

Rear Brake Rotor: JBR-752 $43 @carparts.com

Rear Brake Pads:
Metalmaster: 23-540-01 $46 (Recommended)
Metal-LU: 24-540-01 $27

These are Axxis Metalmasters and Autospecialty Rotors (made by Brembo and I believe they are the best overall pad/rotor combination for performance, minimal dusting, wear and $$$. They work well. Go to importhookup.com for the latest carparts.com discount coupon code.

Porterfield pads are good, as well as others mentioned besides the EBC pads.
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 12:07 PM
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I went with the Bendix pads(around $70 for all 4) and Rotors(I got all 4 for free cuz they ****ed up shaving them at Super Track).
I love em, but for some reason the back rotors cost more than the front ones for my 96. Go fig.

Also don't just replace the pads, always have the rotors at least touched up(shaved) so that its not a waste of time and money on the pads.

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Old Apr 24, 2001 | 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Chunger
Buy some good pads.... you won't regret it...

EBC
Stillen MM
Bendix Titanium... etc...

I'm sure others can recommend which...
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 06:31 PM
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Hey Bill I've been trying to navigate carparts.com and I've been having trouble finding what I want. Do you know of any slotted rotors offered by carparts? Also I know you dont suggest them, but I wanted Tokico struts for my '99 Max. I found the H&R springs, but I wanted to see if I could find anything else on carparts. So I'm looking for slotted rotors (front and rear), Tokico struts (front and rear), and SS brake lines if they have them. While I'm asking do you have any preference on brake fluid and such?
Thanks.
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Old Apr 24, 2001 | 06:43 PM
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While we are on the subject

Does anybody have any good websites to learn about pads and rotors? Like the different kinds of pads available? Kevlar, semi-metallic, organic?? Advantages/Disadvantages?
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by xHypex
Hey Bill I've been trying to navigate carparts.com and I've been having trouble finding what I want. Do you know of any slotted rotors offered by carparts? Also I know you dont suggest them, but I wanted Tokico struts for my '99 Max. I found the H&R springs, but I wanted to see if I could find anything else on carparts. So I'm looking for slotted rotors (front and rear), Tokico struts (front and rear), and SS brake lines if they have them. While I'm asking do you have any preference on brake fluid and such?
Thanks.
-hype
click on the link below then the Brake section; it'll take you 5 seconds to find the parts you need
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 07:30 PM
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Brake fluid reservoir.

Do you need to open it in order to replace the brakes.
Also, what about pressing in the piston?
Haynes mentions something about that. But it also shows a four stud wheel, so I am not sure if they are cutpasting from some other manual.
Actually, I am just replacing a stud, brakes are still good.
BTW, how much does a brake change cost? A place here charges $120/axel. Is that good, bad, or average. But they said they will replace the broken studs for extra 10 bucks/stud when changing the brakes.
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 08:08 PM
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My vote for the Porterfield R4S'. They dust a bit more than stock but handle heat great. Couldn't resist $35 for the front pair (slightly broken in for me).
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 08:17 PM
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Bags, I had some pretty bad problems with the Axxis Metal Masters and my Skyline brakes. The Metal Masters work extremely well as long as they get up to temperature. The problem I had is with my much larger directionally vented and cross-drilled brakes, I could not get them up to temperature. As a result they were very grindy with very poor low speed response and lots of brake dust. I've had Performance Frictions and can say they are junk.

My preferance is Axxis Deluxe pads. They are organic and work at all temperature ranges, including cold. This is very important if you are autocrossing and have significant amounts of time between runs. They are also quiet and have no brake dust. I have them on both ends of the Max and put them on my CRX, now sold. When I got my new Miata, the feel and pressure of the brakes felt good. But, the braking preformance was awful. Within a month I ordered sets for the front and rear. The difference was like day and night. The biggest source for Axxis Deluxe pads is Brake Parts Warehouse(BRAKECO.COM). They will run about $30 an end.
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 08:24 PM
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Whoops.... Everyone talks about Metal Masters so much that I was thinking they were the pads you reccomend Loren Now that you straightened me out on the right pads, do you have any experience with cross drilled or slotted rotors? I want to change my rotors (if it helps), get better pads, and put in SS brake lines so that my brakes are better. I was going to ask you about brakes next time I saw you, but I was researching here in the meantime.
-hype
Old Apr 25, 2001 | 01:50 AM
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Stillen Big Brake.

If you have money go for a big brake.
Old Apr 25, 2001 | 03:48 AM
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I have EBC in the front and metal master in the rear. No complaints at all. Great stopping power.
Old Apr 25, 2001 | 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Loren00Miata
Bags, I had some pretty bad problems with the Axxis Metal Masters and my Skyline brakes. The Metal Masters work extremely well as long as they get up to temperature. The problem I had is with my much larger directionally vented and cross-drilled brakes, I could not get them up to temperature. As a result they were very grindy with very poor low speed response and lots of brake dust. I've had Performance Frictions and can say they are junk.

My preferance is Axxis Deluxe pads. They are organic and work at all temperature ranges, including cold. This is very important if you are autocrossing and have significant amounts of time between runs. They are also quiet and have no brake dust. I have them on both ends of the Max and put them on my CRX, now sold. When I got my new Miata, the feel and pressure of the brakes felt good. But, the braking preformance was awful. Within a month I ordered sets for the front and rear. The difference was like day and night. The biggest source for Axxis Deluxe pads is Brake Parts Warehouse(BRAKECO.COM). They will run about $30 an end.
Loren's recommendation on my 94 Max, getting the Axxis Deluxe Pads and Powerstop's slotted rotors. By far, it was the worst braking I've had on my Max, and I've been through the stock setup, Stillen cross-drilled/Metalmaster setup, the the Deluxe Plus/slotted setup, and the current Brembo blank(NOT big brake kit)/Metalmster setup. Both sets of Metalmasters I've had have not acted the way Loren's did, and I see very few dissenting opinions on Axxis Metalmasters. I do agree about the need for them to get up to temp, but that's about it.

Of course, we didn't have identical setups, so it's hard to say I'm right or Loren's right, etc....All I can tell you is for stock-size rotors and pads, it's hard to beat the Brembo/Axxis Metalmaster setup.

The only other good pads I'm aware of are Bendix Titanium IQs (available at any Advance Auto Parts, tend to dust more) and Porterfield RS4 pads (available at Porterfield's website, but DO dust a lot).....

Once again here are the descriptions and part numbers:

Axxis Pad Types

Autospecialty brands include Super-Lux, Metal-Lux, Super-X, and Metal-X. Metal-Lux is our premium quality semi-metallic pad featuring an asbestos free formula.

- If you specialize in Mercedes, Jaguar, BMW, Saab or Volvo, we offer the industry leading Axxis brake pads, in Metal Master semi-met, or Deluxe Plus... both asbestos free materials. Axxis Metal Master and Axxis Deluxe Plus are the leading brands of pads for upscale European and Japanese sports sedans.

Metal Master pads are designed for applications requiring the highest performance from a semi-metallic pad.

Deluxe Plus is formulated from the latest, proven asbestos-free organic materials, for those applications specifically requiring an NAO formula. It is recognized for maintaining low fade and squeal, with minimal brake dust.

- Metal-Lux and Super-Lux Autospecialty brands are specially formulated pads of the highest quality:

Metal-Lux Premium Quality Semi-Metallic brake pads feature a proven asbestos-free formula. Super-Lux is our premium quality, organic non-asbestos formula pad. Super-Lux Premium Quality Organic Pads feature a proven asbestos-free formula. Both Metal-Lux and Super-Lux brand materials meet or exceed OE specification, and include shims where necessary.

- Metal-X and Super-X are priced competitively against standard replacement grades, and yet offer dramatically improved stopping power for both import and domestic vehicles.

Reference: http://www.autospecialty.com/nonflash/friction/911.htm

Carparts.com has these pads available through a part number search, and importhookup.com has a 20% off coupon right now:

Front Brake Rotor: JBR-505 $45 @carparts.com

Front Brake Pads:
Deluxe Plus: 22-430-01 $39
Metalmaster: 23-430-01 $47 (Recommended)
Metal-LU: 24-430-01 $26 (Recommended)

Rear Brake Rotor: JBR-752 $43 @carparts.com

Rear Brake Pads:
Deluxe Plus: 22-540-01 $33
Metalmaster: 23-540-01 $46 (Recommended)
Metal-LU: 24-540-01 $27 (Recommended)
Old Apr 25, 2001 | 11:51 AM
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wow , lots of opions. well thank you everyone for helping!! i am looking into some differnt pads and trying to figure out which pad is best for me and the climate i live in. as always you guys were a good source of info. thanks
Old Apr 25, 2001 | 01:12 PM
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For the record. EBCs grab like crazy. They grab better than my Metal-Lux pads now. The initial bite is great. The don't fade easily if at all. But, they dust like crazy and mine wore out really really fast.

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