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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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$600 to fix rear brakes (pads,rotors,and calipers)!!! DIY job???

i just brought my car into MIDAS and they told me my rear right brake seized up.....metal rubbing on metal.....they told me i will need to fix the left and the right brakes and the total job will cost about $600....is this a Do It Yourself job?

they said i will need to replace my rotors...calipers and pads....

how much will parts cost me if i buy them and try to do it myself???

need help fast....car is making bad noises
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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dang.. too much.. take it to another shop..
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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how much will some aftermarket parts cost and it is a easy job ??

how much am i expecting to pay if i brought it in to a job?
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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wow 600? i paid 35 for slotted rotors at irotors.com. calipers you could get at a junkyard
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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go to www.courtesyparts.com. for prices on brake components. To me brakes are easy to work on. I don't know about you, and don't know either how much they would charge.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Courtesy Nissan Calipers are $291 each.
They probably don't come loaded so add pads to that, then rotors and your well over 600 bucks in parts alone. The rear calipers are expensive because they have the e-brake system incorporated. Shop around for an aftermarket caliper, you should be able to find them for around 150 bucks each. Or you can purchase a seal kit for around 40 bucks and attempt to rebuild your own.

Never use USED brake components, thats never a good idea.

Add rotors and pads, flush the fluid and your still looking at almost 500 bucks for all new components in the rear.

The Midas price really doesn't sound all that bad for all new components installed.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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For the calipers get some rebuilt ones from an Autozone/Pepboys, probably $100 each or less. I got mine from Autozone when mine seized on me. Replacement is not a bad DIY if you have the tools. My guess would be around $400 for parts if you do it yourself, depending on what you buy.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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wtf are you guys on crack?

reman calipers= 150
rotor =100
pads =30
fluid=10

~300 and 1 hour of your time

get some all purpose grease while your at it to regrease the caliper pins

ps pep boys have these MADD calenders with coupons off on rotors and pads, along with free techron, and mobil 1 syn oil im not a coupon type of guy but the savings were too good to pass up
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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How do you know if your brakes are seized?
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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where did you get pepboys calendar?
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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where did you get pepboys calendar?

go to pepboys? they are only a dollar, i have like 10 bottles of techron and 30 things of oil LOL
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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That's about what the dealer charges. Rotors and brakes only all the way around. If you are just doing front or back then that is high. Midas is high anyways, I wouldn't take my car there because they are going to screw you. But if you really don't have a choice just tell them to do the caliper and brakes. Then go somewhere else for the rotors. How many miles do you have on those rotors?
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Oh boy.....
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Armelius
That's about what the dealer charges. Rotors and brakes only all the way around. If you are just doing front or back then that is high. Midas is high anyways, I wouldn't take my car there because they are going to screw you. But if you really don't have a choice just tell them to do the caliper and brakes. Then go somewhere else for the rotors. How many miles do you have on those rotors?

yeah word midas sucks i remember i got quoted $2k+ to fix an oil leak, change front/rear brakes and rear pinion bearing on a 96 camaro i had

went to another shop they wanted $400
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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How do you know if your brakes are seized?

do you know what seized means? if so then you know the answer already.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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i just had the same problem which I fixed this week. New caliper cost me $99 with core trade.. my rotor and pads were still ok. Make sure you bleed your brakes throuroughly if youre going to DIY. If you dont clamp the brake line tightly you'll have to bleed all 4 brakes.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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go to autozone, a set of loaded rear calipers ( calipers, pads, brackets, and hardware) should be about $130 w/ core, and pair of rotors $50, add in some misc brake supplies and your fixin git for under $200. rent a rear brake tools and spend a couple hours and youll be good to go. by the way this would most likely be the same route that midas would be taking unless you requested something special pad or rotor wise.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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yea go to pepboys or autozone and they will exhange you a rebuilt caliper for your old core. It isnt that hard to replace the rears. Just takes alil time and common sense. Dont pay that $$$ to those idiots. They are just stealing your money. Good Luck
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Some of you guys make me laugh. Of course you can do it cheaper yourself by buying sourcing the parts and doing the work, that does not make Midas or any other shop a rip off. You pay a premium for leaving your car for a few hours and comming back to pick it up with new brakes and a warrenty.

Unless you have done your rear brakes a few times it is not gonna take you an hour...even if you have done them before it will still proabably take you longer than that.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Instead of buying a rebuilt caliper, can't he rebuild it himself?
btw, when you're ready to give it a try, I have 2 electronic service manuals, and 2 online resources that should step u through the whole thing. Just send me PM.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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http://shop.nissanpartstore.com/?make=NI&year=1999

basically, I'd buy a torque wrench. Calipers which ever you need...pads, rotors.. a nissan manual, do it myself..you'll feel better after the experience..+ you'll know how your car works..but 600 bux...geez...say it's 250 for all break parts...find a day you can do some work with the car..get a friend because it will work faster..and just do the job yourself.600-250=350 saved.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong---

seized means that some part that is meant to move (either the piston within the caliper, or more commonly (and less expensively) the pins in the caliper which the brake components are meant to slide along) won't move properly. The end result is that your brakes either don't engage or drag once they do.

$600 for rear brakes, including calipers, sounds... interesting. I had rotors and pads replaced all around this past weekend for almost half that. However, calipers cost more than a rotor or a set of brake pads
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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when i first got my maxima, my first one ( a 93) i had a exhaust problem, they wanted around $350 for this, that and the other " stuff" that was wrong. i took it to this other place, he said $60, i was like dammm. they were trying to rip me off, so now i know better. this was around 4 yrs ago
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Bottom line: If you have the time (and your willing to do a little reasearch) you can absolutely do all of this yourself and as stated above it will certainly be cheaper. I suspect it will take you a full weekend if you are doing it completely by yourself and don't know what you are doing (all four corners..4-7 hours per day going slowly figuring things out...). If your not mechanically inclined and think you can do this Sunday night before work in the middle of winter, then IMO you will be sorry that you did not let the mechanic do it.

Good luck.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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For what it's worth, I haven't had a good experience with my local Midas. When I first moved here, I took it to them for an inspection and they told me I needed all this work (including replacing rotors and pads) something with the pre-cat and told me it would be over $800. Since I didn't want to pay them, they failed my car... and the manager of the place was a total a$$ about it too. He not only tried to make me feel stupid for not having the work done there, he also was fairly belligerent in doing so. Also, I had some issues with the work they said was necessary:

a. I had just had the front pads replaced in the state I was moving from, so I'm pretty sure that there was nothing wrong with them. Also, I asked the guy doing the work to check the rotors and he said they were fine.

b. When I took my car to a different garage (one I now completely trust, for other reasons as well), they told me the pre-cat thing was bogus and that my rotors were in great shape. My car passed inspection with NO work necessary.

I'm not saying this is generalizable to all Midases, but I can say that I would never go to another one, nor would I recommend one.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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what do you guys use to check how tightly bolts need to be turned..? Non air tools.
Old Jan 17, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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use a torque wrench , sears has them for $20
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ThurzNite
Instead of buying a rebuilt caliper, can't he rebuild it himself?
btw, when you're ready to give it a try, I have 2 electronic service manuals, and 2 online resources that should step u through the whole thing. Just send me PM.
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Yes, you can rebuild your own calipers...but I would only recommend that to someone who already has some experience doing basic brake stuff (pads, rotors) or to someone who's HIGHLY ambitious for their first time doing brakes. I had a rear caliper freeze on me last summer and I just bought a rebuilt one, changed it and the pads in a little more than an hour, and returned the core. Find out how much a rebuild kit vs. a rebuilt caliper (minus the core swap credit) would cost; I found the difference wasn't worth it, but that depends on your time/money situation, where you're located, and your level of ambition.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Loaded / rebuilt rear calipers are $158.00 each from WWW.Rockauto.com Rotors are about $25.00 each. You are looking at $366.00 plus shipping if you do it yourself. The calipers come loaded with Raybestos Professional Grade Pads. You can save yourself over $200 and using loaded calipers means it is a pretty simple job. When was the last time you saved $100 per hour invested. Do it yourself!!
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Courtesy Nissan Calipers are $291 each.
They probably don't come loaded so add pads to that, then rotors and your well over 600 bucks in parts alone. The rear calipers are expensive because they have the e-brake system incorporated. Shop around for an aftermarket caliper, you should be able to find them for around 150 bucks each. Or you can purchase a seal kit for around 40 bucks and attempt to rebuild your own.

Never use USED brake components, thats never a good idea.

Add rotors and pads, flush the fluid and your still looking at almost 500 bucks for all new components in the rear.

The Midas price really doesn't sound all that bad for all new components installed.
Wow, Courtesy is expensive. Dealer here in PA wants $251 for the factory part, with $80 core. I wouldn't pay that though, too much. I like factory parts, but not at $251, because in some cases they equate to problem-free installation and use. Like OEM brake pads, muffler (my original has 83 months on the road, still going--know a girl who goes to Midas every 12-15 months for yet another Midas muffler, of course it's warranted for life but LABOR charges are killer). Autoparts stores sell the rear calip. for $78 to $110 which is far more economical. I would go OEM rotors though, $69.13 each I think they'd be worth it. You can't compare the Midas price because they don't use OEM. Midas is notorious for haggling, if you don't like their quote they'll usually take of 20%. If you don't like that, they'll offer to cut corners. But every franchise is different. It's like pouring kerosene into your tranny, then refilling it with ATF and calling it a tranny job.



Midas is notorious for if you don't want to pay $600, would you be willing to pay $400? What about $300? Ridiculous.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Yeah if you prefer to bring it to a shop, scratch off Midas. They love to replace parts that are uneccesary; I was quoted over $1,600CAD back in spring '04 for my beater Escort. All it needed were new front rotors and front pads and somehow they figured to overhaul the entire brake system and replace my rear struts. I told them to **** off, found some free time and did the "required" work myself for under $200CAD.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Dood, take it somewhere else, get a second opinion. Don't tell them they're the second place you've gone to, see if they tell you your caliper is seized. If it is, go buy the reman'd calipers for $100 and buy some discount auto parts rotors for $30 a side, and whatever brake pads you want. This job shouldn't cost anymore than $300 in parts as someone else said.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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dont go to midas they fu cked up my brakes 3 times i have a lifetime warrenty but they keep saying nothing is wrong. but the petal goes to the floor really easy and they make a discusting sound like a clanking noise
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Originally Posted by CaLSoNiC
do you know what seized means? if so then you know the answer already.
Really dip****?
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by p00tan6
Really dip****?
No need to be a ***** about things, take it easy.


$600 is still a little steep for of a rear brake job UNLESS its all NEW OEM parts... lets put it this way

He can cheap out and buy rebuilt calipers @$75 each
cheap rear rotors for $30 each and pads for $20.

Thats $230... give 2 hours worth of work @ $50 an hour, thats $330.

However like it was mentioned, you dropping your car off is a premium, if you dont like the price go elsewhere.
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if you dont mind paying (or want to pay big$$$) the bucks, screw Midas and go to the dealer at least then you will get all new OEM parts and 12 months warranty for labor and parts.

if you want to get it done on the cheap then buy the needed parts from autozone and install them yourself. autozone has a lifetime warranty on the calipers, rotors, and brake pads. plus where do you think midas gonna get their parts from? most of the time stuff that isnt stocked inhouse they order from the local parts store or wholesale parts distributor. they are buying the same caliper you would have got from autozone or napa and they are paying less than retail for it.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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i work at midas and the thing is since we warranty all of our work we have to quote u for everything brand new....including hardware....thats y its soo much....go with a rebuilt caliper spend a few dollars on good pads and rotors and speedbleeders and do it urself....also that was prolly fro 2 new calipers and **** cause we are supposed to do it all in pairs...pretty gay but dumb people pay
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
i work at midas and the thing is since we warranty all of our work we have to quote u for everything brand new....including hardware....thats y its soo much....go with a rebuilt caliper spend a few dollars on good pads and rotors and speedbleeders and do it urself....also that was prolly fro 2 new calipers and **** cause we are supposed to do it all in pairs...pretty gay but dumb people pay
are they OEM nissan parts?
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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just remove tha right rear caliper completely. NO more noise!
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chenzarino
just remove tha right rear caliper completely. NO more noise!
Just make sure to cut a hole in the floor board for the E brake.. .Flinstones style



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