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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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BIG clutch problem, please read!

this morning it was about 9 degrees out. i started my car like usuall and started 2 let it warm up. when i went 2 push the clutch in and put it into gear it would not go. the clutch felt as if there was no pressure in it and it seemed to just flop around and get stuck when i pushed it all the way in. this would require me to pull it back up with my foot and try again. no matter how hard i pressed it in it would not no into any gear. I have no idea what it could be... could it be the slave cylinder??

last night it was driving terrible and it felt very notchy and wouldnt go into gear a few times. the car was fully warmed up this morning and it wouldnt budge.

like i said the clutch feels VERY easy to push in but its loose and doesnt feel like a solid connection.

does ne one have ne idea??? why does my maxima hate me????
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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it could be either your master cylinder or your slave cylinder...first thing to do is check your clutch resavoir...see if there is fluid there...if not...look to see if it leaked from the master cylinder...if not...then go to the slave cylinder...sounds like you have no pressure at all...which would mean no fluid...
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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it could be either your master cylinder or your slave cylinder...first thing to do is check your clutch resavoir...see if there is fluid there...if not...look to see if it leaked from the master cylinder...if not...then go to the slave cylinder...sounds like you have no pressure at all...which would mean no fluid...
thats what i was thinkin.. are there any links or can ne one help me on how 2 change this fluid? what kind fluid do these resivours take? i think i saw a link on mortovate.ca or w/e it is. i will look now. but any helpfull hints i will apreciate.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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well I don't think you need to change the fluid...I think you have a leak somewhere and as a temporary fix you need to at least fill and bleed the lines. Get a Haynes Manual from pepboys and the fluid is brake fluid...just fill the resavoir and follow the directions for bleeding the clutch in the Haynes Manual
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:03 AM
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dot 3 breakfluid will work. on mortovate.ca is a write up on how to bleed the clutch, if your just out of fluid you could bleed new fluid in and be fine.

there probably is a slow leak somewhere and it finally caught up to you this morning.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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thanks alot, yes i have been seeing a leak very similar 2 the leak that the guy explains on mortovate. can i get this fluid at a gas station or autozone or sumtin? where can i get the hydrualic hose that has the leak??? it seems like a very specific part if u know what i mean
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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yea...man..go to autozone...for the fluid
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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yea they have dot 3 brake fluid for like $3
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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No one is suggesting the clutch or a throw out bearing in particular? On both maximas I have owned when I lost pressure it was my clutch. Logic would says slave cylinder but very rarely have i seen a nissan slave fail outright. How many miles do you have...I pulled the clutch out after i had no pressureand found my stock disc looked like a metal fan blade...no slipping...just Dead.

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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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First off hand, with his symptoms sounds exactly like a slave cylinder failure and/or leak. Its much easier and fast to pop the hood and check the reservoir and hoses, rather than jacking up the call pulling the tranny and checking the Throw out bearing. But good you brought that up if it turns out he has no leaks and reservoir full he knows what might be his next option
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TickingVTC
No one is suggesting the clutch or a throw out bearing in particular? On both maximas I have owned when I lost pressure it was my clutch. Logic would says slave cylinder but very rarely have i seen a nissan slave fail outright. How many miles do you have...I pulled the clutch out after i had no pressureand found my stock disc looked like a metal fan blade...no slipping...just Dead.

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Does it not say: "Logic would say its a slave but but have rarely seen a nissan slave fail outright."

Please instruct me to the line and directions where I tell him to jack up car, remove his transmission, and inspect.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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your car has to have the most problems on the org
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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I recently went through the same problem as you did almost down to the t. When i popped the hood my cylinder was empty. We found a leak in one of the lines and replaced it but had a hell of a time bleeding it. Took a few hours. Then a few weeks later noticed it leaking again. Found another line leaking. The combined cost of both lines were about 30 bux so they are both worth replacing if only one is gone just the fact that the other will most likely fail. Also check your seals on the cylinders. Be careful you may not notice any fluid dripping on the ground because it can drip into the firewall and get absorbed.

Also i decided just to replace the major parts of the hydraullic system (Both cylinders and both lines) cost me right around 200 bucks. Just worth doing if your having problems to help prevent future problems.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
your car has to have the most problems on the org
yes i know but i think god did this 2 me so when i get my next car i know wtf im doing. it also has 158,000 miles on it. and yes i do see that there is a hose leaking all over on top of the transmission... i will bleed the lines tonight
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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This is a painful thread to read.

There are 4 possibilities that come to mind:

1. You have a leak in your clutch hydraulic system. Solution: refill reservoir and bleed system. Please note there are two places to bleed the system. This is your easiest and cheapest method to help diagnose what may be wrong with your car. If your clutch regains pressure and your clutch works, you will be in good shape. However, please note that if the leak continues you will need to repair the leak- See motorvate.ca.

2. Clutch master or slave cylinder.

3. Simply put your clutch may be shot. If you are OEM at 158,000 miles, more likely than not, you need a new clutch.

4. Tranny is shot.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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i have the same problem..but this was not my first symtom. i have a light bearning/grinding noise in first and second.. listen for that if you can still drive the car. i thought it was athe throw out/pilot bearing.but its not.

next thing noticed is that if the clutch is up and not engaged, the light grinding noise is there, just alot quieter. when you press the clutch and engage it, the noise goes away. this means that the bearing noise is behind the clutch, since when you engage it, the noise goes away. not athe pilot or throw out bearing but probably some bearing in the tranny.

in the past 3 days, my clutch does exactly what yours does. i depress it, and it jsut gets stuck. gears dont want to go in.

the trusted shop i always go to says i need a rebuild. im saving up for it right now. max is outta commision.. go check to see if you have any bearing noise. im at 156k..
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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i bled the system but dont think i got all the air out. the resivour was empty yet is now full, the clutch still feels really sitcky but there is some pressure in the system. i can put it into the gears but it takes several trys and it doesnt go in smooth at all. im going 2 go bleed it again, i dk wtf to do ne more
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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anyonee please????
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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What more do you want from us? Did you read my post? Did you bleed the system from two different places?
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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i had the same problem as you, and it happened to be my clutch slave. i had to get that replaced. funny thing is, it went out just like 2 months after replacing it, and later on i found out that i am slowly leaking. this sucks.
either way....if your slave is messed up, there is no point on refiling the reservoir, because it wont do anything. you just need to replace the slave. good luck.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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no i didnt bleed it at all from the top, i could not open the valve, i tryed wd-40 and even a blow tourch and it wouldnt budge. nows in sitting at my mechanic cuz i am tired of freezing my *** off... he said he will call me tmarw so i will let u guys know...

will not bleeding the top keep lots of air in the system? i would assume so.
Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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most of the air thats trapped in the system will come out of the top.
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