I know why My I30t stop running... (pics)

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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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So it was sunny so i decided i would throw thing thing up on some jack stands and see what is the problem once and for all. So i was poing around and i notice this.... shiny thing. Anyway also had a chance to check out the transmission which i am pleased to report is a properly functioning VLSD. so onto the pics...






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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Holy Fawk!
Yeah, I would definatley think it wouldnt be running right.
How the h#ll did you accomplish that?
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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ouch, that's gotta hurt. swap a 3.5 into that sucka and sell the max...or keep it for a beater.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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how the hell did that happen... That just made my jaw drop.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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how did you freaking shot a connecting rod through the block?
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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didn't come through the block came through the aluminum part of the oil pan. Its said "3" on it so i assume its from cylinder 3
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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you bought the car like that didnt you?
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Holy Crap! How many miles are on that engine? Did you buy it like that or did it happen while you were driving? Any idea what caused it?

That's amazing. I've never heard of a VQ throwing a rod. That sucks.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Quote: you bought the car like that didnt you?
yep. i don't know what he did to it but he got it to throw a rod. i am impressed.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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prob shifted to 1st instead of 3rd while racing lol
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Mar 22, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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man that a first. now strip the engine and see what else is wrong with it.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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ugg now what have you done?
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Mar 22, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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he said he was driving on the highway and the car just died so it anyones guess why this could have happened. at this point i don't care just thought itw as kinda cool to share.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Quote: ugg now what have you done?
nothing checking it out and trying to get a feel for what maybe instored when i attempt to remove the tranny. Does anyone if by chance he did miss shift and blow the engine that way if it could mess up the tranny?
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Mar 22, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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How do people shift into 1st while moving more faster than 3mph? I can't do it, how did he?
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Mar 22, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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it happened to my exgirlfriend's car, she had a 90 toyota camry, those engines were as bulletproof as ours.....most likely had a lack of oil. The same thing happened to her on the highway, too...but flames shot out of the engine bay.

I'd say that the car had no oil or coolant, overheated, or was running a 150 direct port shot of nitrous while turbo'd at 20psi, and downshifted into 2nd at redline 5th gear.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Quote: How do people shift into 1st while moving more faster than 3mph? I can't do it, how did he?
Where is everyone getting that he shifted into 1st? What he told me was that the car had low oil and this what happened. What he said exactly was he was dirving on the highway and the car lost power. Tranny shifts fine i can get into all the gears and reverse. also wheels spin freely in netural when i had it on jack stands and the visous coupling still works.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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I never said that he shifted into 1st? Nismo said he did and I was just saying it seems impossible to me.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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ionno, i can get into first around 5-8mph dave your car is just weird
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Mar 22, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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It is Impossible going more than 20mph first gear gets locked out. would have to have been 2nd, cant do it with first.
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Mar 22, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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The question is...... Why was he low on oil......
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Mar 22, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Quote: It is Impossible going more than 20mph first gear gets locked out. would have to have been 2nd, cant do it with first.

actually i heard it is possible, if you REALLLLLLLYYYY throw it in there, like.. using all your force haha, anything is possible
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Mar 23, 2005 | 04:22 AM
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Quote: The question is...... Why was he low on oil......
Seriously. You have to either be a complete idiot or just not care about your car at all in order to blow up a motor like that.

Zack342, are you just salvaging it for the transmission or are you going to put a new motor in the car? How many miles are on it? Is the body clean? Its hard to tell in the pictures, there's definetly a dent in the right front quarter and door.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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Ha you should strip the motor, and take more pics that just awsome how he ended up doing that.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Zach were you able to get that window switch?
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Mar 23, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Quote: Seriously. You have to either be a complete idiot or just not care about your car at all in order to blow up a motor like that.

Zack342, are you just salvaging it for the transmission or are you going to put a new motor in the car? How many miles are on it? Is the body clean? Its hard to tell in the pictures, there's definetly a dent in the right front quarter and door.

Some people just driver cars? I know its hard to understand but they just drive them. if you look at the other pics of the interior you can see the motor was not the only thing neglected. Like i said before i bought the car from a guy this way with the intention of fix it but looking over the car i don't wanna fix it. i wanna keep the wheels and tranny and part everything else out. i don't know what caused the motor to eject a rod. My best guess is that the car was very low on oild and a bearing ceased and spun the rod but your guess is as good as mine. At this time my only conscern is if the tranny could have been damaged in this ordeal.
I cannot test the tranny until it is on my car but so far it shiftes into gear fine and when i had it up on jack stands the viscous coupling works according to the FSM. So i don't know if the tranny was damaged. my guess is worst case the clutch and flywheel may not have liked the whole ordeal.
Feel free to share opinions
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Mar 23, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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Quote: Zach were you able to get that window switch?
Yeah you can have the 1 from the I30 if you like but they are not indvidual Switches that can be unplugged. They are switches making contact with the curcuit board and that is what controls the auto down up function.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Quote: My best guess is that the car was very low on oild and a bearing ceased and spun the rod but your guess is as good as mine.

That'd be my guess too. Woulda make a serious racket though...
I was w/ my brother in his 79 Monte Carlo when he spun a rod at about 6000RPM. Heck of an experience when your 13yrs old. The block was mangled when he broke it down.

The tranny should be fine. Congrats on your new LSD!
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Mar 23, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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engine hari-kiri
A very good friend of mine, when he was even more mechanically inept than he is now, thew a rod through a block on an old f150. he thought he was filling the engine oil, when in fact he was filing the transmission fluid. So he was going over the courtney cambell causeway in tampa and he heard more of a racket coming from the engine than normal. Then he saw small flames were shooting out from under the hood, so he drove FASTER to blow them out. About half a mile later, the rod decided to commit hari-kiri and depart the block. His transmission, despite having ENGINE OIL in it, seemed to be ok, and he parted out the truck, the tranny went to someone we knew, and it worked until that guy sold the truck.

Yes, he has never lived this down, I still laugh about, because I was the one who went and picked him up on the side of the road.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Quote: A very good friend of mine, when he was even more mechanically inept than he is now, thew a rod through a block on an old f150. he thought he was filling the engine oil, when in fact he was filing the transmission fluid. So he was going over the courtney cambell causeway in tampa and he heard more of a racket coming from the engine than normal. Then he saw small flames were shooting out from under the hood, so he drove FASTER to blow them out. About half a mile later, the rod decided to commit hari-kiri and depart the block. His transmission, despite having ENGINE OIL in it, seemed to be ok, and he parted out the truck, the tranny went to someone we knew, and it worked until that guy sold the truck.

Yes, he has never lived this down, I still laugh about, because I was the one who went and picked him up on the side of the road.
There could have been a fire but i am not sure there are no signs of flames or anything when examing the underside of the car. I also noticed there is a dent in his oil pan. Maybe the dent caused the oil pickup to be starved hence running low on oil and throwing the rod though the oil pan.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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How does the valvetrain look? As varnished as the bottom end is? How did you get the rod out? Was the hole that big?

Probably never changed the oil and ran it low. Lost oil pressure and seized a main bearing or a connecting rod bearing. Broke the cap off and the rod arm then slaps the side of the block and blows a hole.

Been there, done that unfortunately.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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holy shiet, thats crazy never thought that couldve happened.

btw i have a rear valve cover leak, and if i dont get it fixed that could happen as well?
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Mar 23, 2005 | 10:54 AM
  #34  
Haven't removed valve covers yet but i will this weekend.The hole wasn't terribly bit i kinda had to wiggle it out of the top half of the oil pan(aluminum part).

Jeff do you think this would cause any harm to the transmission? i assume within seconds of this while ordeal the engine would die and stop spinning instantlly therefore not harming the transmission?
I think miss shifting results in valve float and kill the engine for a whole other reason?

I just wanna know the TRANNY is ok VLSD.....
like i said. it goes into gear smoothly all the gates are defined. althought it goes into gear smoothly without me using the clutch. Both wheels spin when i jack it up and they spin in the same direction
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Mar 23, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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When mine took a dump, it didn't hurt the tranny. But when you get it off (it's only like a 2 hour job for me), just spin the half shafts and the main input shaft. If it moves okay, you should be okay.

Just remove the oil cap and note the valvetrain color
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Mar 23, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Quote: There could have been a fire but i am not sure there are no signs of flames or anything when examing the underside of the car. I also noticed there is a dent in his oil pan. Maybe the dent caused the oil pickup to be starved hence running low on oil and throwing the rod though the oil pan.
I didn't see any fire damage on his truck, and if it looked like a fireball my friend would have stopped. He didn't, so the engine did, in the worst manner. I had yelled at him the week before for not filling his transmission fluid (or that's what he said he was doing). I almost peed myself when he said he went faster to blow the flames out.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Quote: When mine took a dump, it didn't hurt the tranny. But when you get it off (it's only like a 2 hour job for me), just spin the half shafts and the main input shaft. If it moves okay, you should be okay.

Just remove the oil cap and note the valvetrain color
Cool. sounds good jeff. so i assume it is a good thing i can currently spin the wheels freely when i had the car on jack stands and i can move it in out of great freely
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Mar 23, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Quote: holy shiet, thats crazy never thought that couldve happened.

btw i have a rear valve cover leak, and if i dont get it fixed that could happen as well?
Negative, I had a rear valve cover leak repaired it once I installed my mevi. Simple job took less than 5 min to replace/seal and install the rear valve cover (once the intake maifold was off). Mine was leaking but nothing that bad to drastically seize up a engine.
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Mar 23, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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hhm looks like its from the 6th cylinder? that cars been driven for awhile or what
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Mar 23, 2005 | 10:33 PM
  #40  
so the majortiy believes the tranny is ok
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