learned a lesson about my car.....
rmurdock - I'm disappointed you didn't read the MAXIMA.ORG general FAQ. Here's the FAQ on Octane...
What grade gas should I put in my car?
Please do as the owners manual says. If it calls for 91+ octane gas, PLEASE use it.
Why should I use premium gas? Prices are so expensive these days.
For the 4th and 5th gen Maxima, it is important that you use a premium grade gas (i.e. 91 or greater octane). Using premium gas is not for increasing performance (not directly) or for giving you extra horsepower. What it does for you is to prevent detonation or pre-ignition. Detonation means that the fuel and air mixutre ignite at the wrong time due to the high compression and heat. This is VERY bad for the engine. The effets of detonation is cumulative, meaning the damage adds up. Higher octane gas will be more resistant to detonation and allow your engine to run as intended
What about my knock sensor, doesn't it prevent detonation?
The knock sensor was designed to detect detonation/pinging/knock in you engine. When it detects a ping, the ECU will retard (pull back) the ignition timing to prevent further knocking. You may be asking then why can't I use 87 octane gas since there is this knock sensor. Two main reason: 1) performance will be impacted when the timing is retarded and 2) When the knock sensor does its thing, that means there has already been some knocking that occured. Remember the effects of detonation/knocking is cumulative. It is possible that using low grade gas may not cause any problems, but remember it does not take that many detonations to break your engine.
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Was there something I was wrong about that using less than 91 will damage your engine? Check out the threads of guys who buy cars from owners that put in low-octane into the engines.
What grade gas should I put in my car?
Please do as the owners manual says. If it calls for 91+ octane gas, PLEASE use it.
Why should I use premium gas? Prices are so expensive these days.
For the 4th and 5th gen Maxima, it is important that you use a premium grade gas (i.e. 91 or greater octane). Using premium gas is not for increasing performance (not directly) or for giving you extra horsepower. What it does for you is to prevent detonation or pre-ignition. Detonation means that the fuel and air mixutre ignite at the wrong time due to the high compression and heat. This is VERY bad for the engine. The effets of detonation is cumulative, meaning the damage adds up. Higher octane gas will be more resistant to detonation and allow your engine to run as intended
What about my knock sensor, doesn't it prevent detonation?
The knock sensor was designed to detect detonation/pinging/knock in you engine. When it detects a ping, the ECU will retard (pull back) the ignition timing to prevent further knocking. You may be asking then why can't I use 87 octane gas since there is this knock sensor. Two main reason: 1) performance will be impacted when the timing is retarded and 2) When the knock sensor does its thing, that means there has already been some knocking that occured. Remember the effects of detonation/knocking is cumulative. It is possible that using low grade gas may not cause any problems, but remember it does not take that many detonations to break your engine.
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Was there something I was wrong about that using less than 91 will damage your engine? Check out the threads of guys who buy cars from owners that put in low-octane into the engines.
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I stand corrected with respect to my comment about potentially affecting the fuel injectors. However, I will not retract my comment about potential problems with the fuel filter and fuel pump.
I just phoned a high-volume stealership, as much as I hate them, and the message I heard loud and clear is that there can be sediment in the fuel tank that can be caught in the fuel filter. Running out of gas puts added stress on the fuel pump, particularly on a hot day as the gasoline in the bottom of the tank vaporizes causing stress on the fuel pump. He said that running out of gas on a cold day would be less harmful to the fuel pump than running out of gas on a hot day.
I have nothing more to add to this intellectual debate!
I just phoned a high-volume stealership, as much as I hate them, and the message I heard loud and clear is that there can be sediment in the fuel tank that can be caught in the fuel filter. Running out of gas puts added stress on the fuel pump, particularly on a hot day as the gasoline in the bottom of the tank vaporizes causing stress on the fuel pump. He said that running out of gas on a cold day would be less harmful to the fuel pump than running out of gas on a hot day.
I have nothing more to add to this intellectual debate!
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Who is belittling anyone?? You just TOLD him some "facts". I just asked you to back them up? If you can't back up your "facts" with some reasonable explaination, maybe you should consider not giving those "facts" in the 1st place. Don't we have enough questionable information in the 4-gen section already?
Well I should wrap this up before I start to ramble.
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Originally Posted by rmurdoch
I stand corrected with respect to my comment about potentially affecting the fuel injectors. However, I will not retract my comment about potential problems with the fuel filter and fuel pump.
I just phoned a high-volume stealership, as much as I hate them, and the message I heard loud and clear is that there can be sediment in the fuel tank that can be caught in the fuel filter. Running out of gas puts added stress on the fuel pump, particularly on a hot day as the gasoline in the bottom of the tank vaporizes causing stress on the fuel pump. He said that running out of gas on a cold day would be less harmful to the fuel pump than running out of gas on a hot day.
I have nothing more to add to this intellectual debate!
I just phoned a high-volume stealership, as much as I hate them, and the message I heard loud and clear is that there can be sediment in the fuel tank that can be caught in the fuel filter. Running out of gas puts added stress on the fuel pump, particularly on a hot day as the gasoline in the bottom of the tank vaporizes causing stress on the fuel pump. He said that running out of gas on a cold day would be less harmful to the fuel pump than running out of gas on a hot day.
I have nothing more to add to this intellectual debate!
there can be sediment in the fuel tank
You got your answer, they will tell you something like that to get you down there to make money.
I recommend you call this number.....
1800-647-7261
Try again......
If you want to believe what dealerships spew, feel free to believe them. I know they are the most honest, fair selling and respectable people known on this planet earth. 
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
I stand corrected with respect to my comment about potentially affecting the fuel injectors. However, I will not retract my comment about potential problems with the fuel filter and fuel pump.
I just phoned a high-volume stealership, as much as I hate them, and the message I heard loud and clear is that there can be sediment in the fuel tank that can be caught in the fuel filter. Running out of gas puts added stress on the fuel pump, particularly on a hot day as the gasoline in the bottom of the tank vaporizes causing stress on the fuel pump. He said that running out of gas on a cold day would be less harmful to the fuel pump than running out of gas on a hot day.
I have nothing more to add to this intellectual debate!
I just phoned a high-volume stealership, as much as I hate them, and the message I heard loud and clear is that there can be sediment in the fuel tank that can be caught in the fuel filter. Running out of gas puts added stress on the fuel pump, particularly on a hot day as the gasoline in the bottom of the tank vaporizes causing stress on the fuel pump. He said that running out of gas on a cold day would be less harmful to the fuel pump than running out of gas on a hot day.
I have nothing more to add to this intellectual debate!
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I tell you what Fork, I'll meet you half way on this one. I'm going to start trying Husky 90 octane gasoline. They introduced it earlier this year and are selling it at the same price as 87 octane at their station and everyone else's. If you have comfort paying 11 or 11.5 cents a litre to get to 91 octane (or 92 at Chevron), compared to my 90 then go for it. I don't like paying for a placebo effect.
The fundamental reason we are running higher octane is because we have a knock sensor. I have heard pinging twice in my Maxima - once about 7 years ago climbing a steep hill with passengers and luggage on an extremely hot day. The pinging didn't last very long. The second instance was about three months ago, the day after I filled up with some Chevron 89 octane in Blaine, Washington.
The fundamental reason we are running higher octane is because we have a knock sensor. I have heard pinging twice in my Maxima - once about 7 years ago climbing a steep hill with passengers and luggage on an extremely hot day. The pinging didn't last very long. The second instance was about three months ago, the day after I filled up with some Chevron 89 octane in Blaine, Washington.
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something similar happen to me a couple of days ago (friday)... I went to drop my girl off like 9 miles away, light poped-up. drove back to my house, went to the office the next day like 7 miles. I'm about to leave and the car does not turn on...I had to take gas out of one of the vans to put it in my car, so I could go to the closes gas station which is 2 blocks away. Lets say that gasoline does not taste pretty...
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The gospel according to Jeff92SE. If anyone thought I have an affinity for dealerships then just read my rant under the Dealerships section. I have been banned from my local stealership. They don't know me at the one I just phoned.
Let me just close by suggesting that if you have a choice of buying gas when the idiot light comes on or driving another 50 miles to get cheaper gas, it might be wise to throw $10 in when you can.
Let me just close by suggesting that if you have a choice of buying gas when the idiot light comes on or driving another 50 miles to get cheaper gas, it might be wise to throw $10 in when you can.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
If you want to believe what dealerships spew, feel free to believe them. I know they are the most honest, fair selling and respectable people known on this planet earth.
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I hope you asked if it was premium, lol!
Originally Posted by tigerxp17
something similar happen to me a couple of days ago (friday)... I went to drop my girl off like 9 miles away, light poped-up. drove back to my house, went to the office the next day like 7 miles. I'm about to leave and the car does not turn on...I had to take gas out of one of the vans to put it in my car, so I could go to the closes gas station which is 2 blocks away. Lets say that gasoline does not taste pretty...
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What's that number for - AA?
Originally Posted by CystumMax
And stealership told you that right......
You got your answer, they will tell you something like that to get you down there to make money.
I recommend you call this number.....
1800-647-7261
Try again......
You got your answer, they will tell you something like that to get you down there to make money.
I recommend you call this number.....
1800-647-7261
Try again......
Well I should wrap this up before I start to ramble.
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Originally Posted by rmurdoch
What's that number for - AA?
Here it is:
MANITOBA CENTRAL OFFICE
208-323 PORTAGE AVENUE
WINNIPEG MB R3B 2C1
204 942-0126
ABBOTSFORD INTERGROUP COMMITTEE - AA
#212-33850 FERN STREET
ABBOTSFORD BC V2S 6C3E-mail: abbotsfordintrgrp@hotmail.com
http://www.abbotsfordintergroup-aa.org
24 HOUR HOTLINE 604 850-0811
DISTRICT 03 ANSWERING SERVICE
P O BOX 652
CAMPBELL RIVER BC V9W 6J3
250 287-4313
DISTRICT 45 INTERGROUP
PO BOX 134
CHILLIWACK BC V2P 6H7
604 819-2644
DISTRICT 04 ANSWERING SERVICE
COMOX BC V9N 728
250-338-8042
FORT ST JOHN INTERGROUP
BOX 6164
FORT ST JOHN BC V1J 4H7
250 785-8866
KAMLOOPS INTERGROUP
P O BOX 353
KAMLOOPS BC V2C 5K9
250 374-2456
KELOWNA INTERGROUP
BOX 2012 STATION R.
KELOWNA BC V1X 4K5
NANAIMO INTERGROUP
55 VICTORIA ROAD SUITE #L1B
NANAIMO BC V9R 5N9
250 753-7513
LANGLEY INTERGROUP OFFICE
#16 20461 DOUGLAS CRES
LANGLEY BC V3A 4B6
604 533-2600
SOUTH OKANAGAN INTERGROUP
P.O. BOX 20047
PENTICTON BC V2A 8k3
ANSWERING SERVICE 250 490-9216
PRINCE GEORGE INTERGROUP
PO BOX 1257
PRINCE GEORGE BC V2L 4V3
250 564-7550
REVELSTOKE INTERGROUP
P O BOX 3266
REVELSTOKE BC V0E 2S0
250 837-9400
GREATER VANCOUVER INTERGROUP SOCIETY
3457 KINGSWAY
VANCOUVER BC V5R 5L5
604 434-3933
E-mail: intrgrp@telus.net
http://www.vancouveraa.ca
VERNON ANSWERING SERVICE
VERNON BC V1T 6N7
250 545-4933
A.A. CENTRAL OFFICE
ROOM 8-2020 DOUGLAS STREET
VICTORIA BC V8T 4L1
250 383-7744
Now you can go tell your buddies over there, you get 550 Mile for full tank of gas....
In technical terms, why would this be?? The only reason to get gas before is to prevent one from running out of gas and being stranded. 50 miles is probably very close to the limit of running out of gas.
Given you can't see inside this gentleman's tank, there is no way of knowing what is inside it correct?? So the gunk theory is dead. That leaves the fuel pump. I don't think the tank really gets that hot. Have you noticed the rate of evaporation of gas? It's very fast. That means if it evaporating at a fast rate, it's also pulling off heat of whatever it's touching. Although, the gas helps cool the pump, random isolated occurances won't do anything. Think about it. If such isolated cases really did damage everyone's pump, wouldn't you think you would be seeing cars on the side of the road with dead fuel pumps at least once per day?? Becuase I can guess that all people don't fill their gas up before the 1/4 mark, etc.... It would also be prudent for car makers to design a pump that's sturdy enough to withstand being pumped dry occasionally.
But that's just me and my illogical reasoning. I mean a dealership just told you otherwise correct??
Given you can't see inside this gentleman's tank, there is no way of knowing what is inside it correct?? So the gunk theory is dead. That leaves the fuel pump. I don't think the tank really gets that hot. Have you noticed the rate of evaporation of gas? It's very fast. That means if it evaporating at a fast rate, it's also pulling off heat of whatever it's touching. Although, the gas helps cool the pump, random isolated occurances won't do anything. Think about it. If such isolated cases really did damage everyone's pump, wouldn't you think you would be seeing cars on the side of the road with dead fuel pumps at least once per day?? Becuase I can guess that all people don't fill their gas up before the 1/4 mark, etc.... It would also be prudent for car makers to design a pump that's sturdy enough to withstand being pumped dry occasionally.
But that's just me and my illogical reasoning. I mean a dealership just told you otherwise correct??
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
Let me just close by suggesting that if you have a choice of buying gas when the idiot light comes on or driving another 50 miles to get cheaper gas, it might be wise to throw $10 in when you can.
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Very good! Now what's the nearest mental health office phone #, lol!
To get 500 to 550 miles on a tank, it helps to be out in the middle of nowhere on cruise control with no traffic in your way, something you may seldom experience in New Jersey other than at 4AM. Once you get 50 miles or so out of Vancouver on Highway 1 you can cruise all day long unaffected by traffic and as Jeff92SE suggests it does wonders for fuel economy. The same applies in my experience driving on I-5 the north-south interstate connectong Washington, Oregon and California, although there is more traffic than in BC. British Columbia is 40% larger than Texas in terms of square miles, with a population of about 4 million. More than 1/2 the people live in Greater Vancouver, an area of less than 40 miles by 40 miles, and a good chunk of the rest live in Greater Victoria on the southern tip of Vancouver Island.
To get 500 to 550 miles on a tank, it helps to be out in the middle of nowhere on cruise control with no traffic in your way, something you may seldom experience in New Jersey other than at 4AM. Once you get 50 miles or so out of Vancouver on Highway 1 you can cruise all day long unaffected by traffic and as Jeff92SE suggests it does wonders for fuel economy. The same applies in my experience driving on I-5 the north-south interstate connectong Washington, Oregon and California, although there is more traffic than in BC. British Columbia is 40% larger than Texas in terms of square miles, with a population of about 4 million. More than 1/2 the people live in Greater Vancouver, an area of less than 40 miles by 40 miles, and a good chunk of the rest live in Greater Victoria on the southern tip of Vancouver Island.
Originally Posted by CystumMax
Oh i did not know you had a problem like that..
Here it is:
MANITOBA CENTRAL OFFICE
208-323 PORTAGE AVENUE
WINNIPEG MB R3B 2C1
204 942-0126
Now you can go tell your buddies over there, you get 550 Mile for full tank of gas....
Here it is:
MANITOBA CENTRAL OFFICE
208-323 PORTAGE AVENUE
WINNIPEG MB R3B 2C1
204 942-0126
Now you can go tell your buddies over there, you get 550 Mile for full tank of gas....
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I defer to the omniscient eye, one Jeff92SE. I was coming from the don't run out of gas in the middle of nowhere standpoint for the sake of saving a little money or perhaps getting to a destination ASAP, nothing more nothing less.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
In technical terms, why would this be?? The only reason to get gas before is to prevent one from running out of gas and being stranded. 50 miles is probably very close to the limit of running out of gas.
Given you can't see inside this gentleman's tank, there is no way of knowing what is inside it correct?? So the gunk theory is dead. That leaves the fuel pump. I don't think the tank really gets that hot. Have you noticed the rate of evaporation of gas? It's very fast. That means if it evaporating at a fast rate, it's also pulling off heat of whatever it's touching. Although, the gas helps cool the pump, random isolated occurances won't do anything. Think about it. If such isolated cases really did damage everyone's pump, wouldn't you think you would be seeing cars on the side of the road with dead fuel pumps at least once per day?? Becuase I can guess that all people don't fill their gas up before the 1/4 mark, etc.... It would also be prudent for car makers to design a pump that's sturdy enough to withstand being pumped dry occasionally.
But that's just me and my illogical reasoning. I mean a dealership just told you otherwise correct??
Given you can't see inside this gentleman's tank, there is no way of knowing what is inside it correct?? So the gunk theory is dead. That leaves the fuel pump. I don't think the tank really gets that hot. Have you noticed the rate of evaporation of gas? It's very fast. That means if it evaporating at a fast rate, it's also pulling off heat of whatever it's touching. Although, the gas helps cool the pump, random isolated occurances won't do anything. Think about it. If such isolated cases really did damage everyone's pump, wouldn't you think you would be seeing cars on the side of the road with dead fuel pumps at least once per day?? Becuase I can guess that all people don't fill their gas up before the 1/4 mark, etc.... It would also be prudent for car makers to design a pump that's sturdy enough to withstand being pumped dry occasionally.
But that's just me and my illogical reasoning. I mean a dealership just told you otherwise correct??
Well I should wrap this up before I start to ramble.
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Originally Posted by rmurdoch
Very good! Now what's the nearest mental health office phone #, lol!
To get 500 to 550 miles on a tank, it helps to be out in the middle of nowhere on cruise control with no traffic in your way, something you may seldom experience in New Jersey other than at 4AM. Once you get 50 miles or so out of Vancouver on Highway 1 you can cruise all day long unaffected by traffic and as Jeff92SE suggests it does wonders for fuel economy. The same applies in my experience driving on I-5 the north-south interstate connectong Washington, Oregon and California, although there is more traffic than in BC. British Columbia is 40% larger than Texas in terms of square miles, with a population of about 4 million. More than 1/2 the people live in Greater Vancouver, an area of less than 40 miles by 40 miles, and a good chunk of the rest live in Greater Victoria on the southern tip of Vancouver Island.
To get 500 to 550 miles on a tank, it helps to be out in the middle of nowhere on cruise control with no traffic in your way, something you may seldom experience in New Jersey other than at 4AM. Once you get 50 miles or so out of Vancouver on Highway 1 you can cruise all day long unaffected by traffic and as Jeff92SE suggests it does wonders for fuel economy. The same applies in my experience driving on I-5 the north-south interstate connectong Washington, Oregon and California, although there is more traffic than in BC. British Columbia is 40% larger than Texas in terms of square miles, with a population of about 4 million. More than 1/2 the people live in Greater Vancouver, an area of less than 40 miles by 40 miles, and a good chunk of the rest live in Greater Victoria on the southern tip of Vancouver Island.
Ok good, So please do not jump out next time and say something like this..
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
320 miles to a tank is absolutely pathetic. I've never had less than 350 when commuting at speeds under 40 mph, with lights and traffic.
Okay that's fine. But I don't remember having a discussion regarding this particular issue.
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
I defer to the omniscient eye, one Jeff92SE. I was coming from the don't run out of gas in the middle of nowhere standpoint for the sake of saving a little money or perhaps getting to a destination ASAP, nothing more nothing less.
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That opinion (minimum 350 miles to a tank) was based on the worst gas mileage I have ever had in constant commuting during rush hour. I'd be pretty upset if I was only getting 320 miles to a tank and 280, as I've seen some post, would be enough to force me to move somewhere else as the traffic one would experience to get that mileage would be insane.
QUOTE=CystumMax]Ok good, So please do not jump out next time and say something like this..[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=CystumMax]Ok good, So please do not jump out next time and say something like this..[/QUOTE]
Really? Can you point out where we were directly discussing this particular issue? I'll wait until you call the dealer again. Make sure you don't burn that dealer's bridge either. You are running out of them up there. 
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
Well, now you do.
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Actually there's quite a few dealerships in the area, probably about 10. So there's 5 or 6 I've never spoken to and about 8 I haven't stepped foot in.
But now that I have a Haynes manual and I'm a classic example of a little knowledge being dangerous, they will surely be impressed with me, just like you Jeff and my fellow .orgers, lol! God help me if I ever lose my sense of humor!
But now that I have a Haynes manual and I'm a classic example of a little knowledge being dangerous, they will surely be impressed with me, just like you Jeff and my fellow .orgers, lol! God help me if I ever lose my sense of humor!
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Really? Can you point out where we were directly discussing this particular issue? I'll wait until you call the dealer again. Make sure you don't burn that dealer's bridge either. You are running out of them up there.
Well I should wrap this up before I start to ramble.
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Originally Posted by rmurdoch
That opinion (minimum 350 miles to a tank) was based on the worst gas mileage I have ever had in constant commuting during rush hour. I'd be pretty upset if I was only getting 320 miles to a tank and 280, as I've seen some post, would be enough to force me to move somewhere else as the traffic one would experience to get that mileage would be insane.
QUOTE=CystumMax]Ok good, So please do not jump out next time and say something like this..
QUOTE=CystumMax]Ok good, So please do not jump out next time and say something like this..
You have very uniq way of giving your opinion, but i kind of understand that...
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Dam 550 miles. Thats like 32mpg running the tank down to fumes. I got 332miles the other day on 14.1 gals (23.5mpg) of gas and was happy. Thats the best I've ever got with my Max. I've replaced all my o2 sensors and knock sensor. Did a complete tuneup and my car runs perfect. I find that hard to believe a max can get that kind of gas milage.
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I've only got 550 twice, but I have had 500+, probably a dozen times or more, with the gas tank very low (light on for quite awhile). That's keeping the car consistently no higher than 75 mph and a good % of the time on cruise control on a 250 mile one-way trip which, incidentally, involves a fair bit of climbing (plus slower highway driving after I get to my destination). I think the trick is to drive at a constant speed, let the cruise control adjust for the hills, and perhaps run a little higher tire pressure than normal. Based on my last fillup of combined city and mostly highway driving, I am confident I can repeat this performance this summer and I have 58,400 miles on the original spark plugs.
The two 550 mile runs were before I got my K&N air filter and Budget y-pipe.
The two 550 mile runs were before I got my K&N air filter and Budget y-pipe.
You are going to:
1) Suck up all that gunk
2) Ruin your fuel pump
3) Ruin your fuel injectors
4) Ruin your fuel filter.
1) Suck up all that gunk
2) Ruin your fuel pump
3) Ruin your fuel injectors
4) Ruin your fuel filter.
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
with the gas tank very low (light on for quite awhile). .
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I know but that's the **** accountant in me. I just have to know how far I can go on a tank of gas on a road trip and have been reamed out umpteen times for passing gas stations when the idiot light is on.
You might find this amazing Jeff, given you're from Washington state. One of the 550 mile runs was based on filling up in Blaine, Washington, driving over the Southern Cascades loop to Leavenworth, on to Yakima the next day via Wenatchee, back up and over the Northern Cascades loop the next day to Blaine, then filling up when on fumes. This was about 553 miles and entailed a fair bit of climbing. However, the air was cool in the mountains (September) and I don't believe I went over 65 mph, other than for maybe 50 miles or so on the freeway south of Blaine.
At least I'll stop worrying about the fuel injectors now.
You might find this amazing Jeff, given you're from Washington state. One of the 550 mile runs was based on filling up in Blaine, Washington, driving over the Southern Cascades loop to Leavenworth, on to Yakima the next day via Wenatchee, back up and over the Northern Cascades loop the next day to Blaine, then filling up when on fumes. This was about 553 miles and entailed a fair bit of climbing. However, the air was cool in the mountains (September) and I don't believe I went over 65 mph, other than for maybe 50 miles or so on the freeway south of Blaine.
At least I'll stop worrying about the fuel injectors now.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You are going to:
1) Suck up all that gunk
2) Ruin your fuel pump
3) Ruin your fuel injectors
4) Ruin your fuel filter.
1) Suck up all that gunk
2) Ruin your fuel pump
3) Ruin your fuel injectors
4) Ruin your fuel filter.
I have to agree wth jeff because i at most put 2-3 gallons in at a "fillup" on average 1 1/2 gallons i dont put more in until my gas light has been on atleast 5 miles. I have done this with my max for 6 + years and 200k. i think my pump would be dead if there was crud buildup. 
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I'm not sure if its just me or what!
Could you repeat that in English please? If I understand you correctly, you say that you wait until your gas light has been on for about 5 miles and you then buy gas, but your average filllup is about 1.5 gallons. Is that correct?
If you've driven 200K in 6+ years, you must be stopping at the gas station several times a week. Am I missing something here?
And what you are saying has nothing to with running out of gas because you still have almost 2 gallons left when you buy gas. Perhaps that's what you're trying to say but you're not being very clear.
Could you repeat that in English please? If I understand you correctly, you say that you wait until your gas light has been on for about 5 miles and you then buy gas, but your average filllup is about 1.5 gallons. Is that correct?
If you've driven 200K in 6+ years, you must be stopping at the gas station several times a week. Am I missing something here?
And what you are saying has nothing to with running out of gas because you still have almost 2 gallons left when you buy gas. Perhaps that's what you're trying to say but you're not being very clear.
Originally Posted by krismax
I have to agree wth jeff because i at most put 2-3 gallons in at a "fillup" on average 1 1/2 gallons i dont put more in until my gas light has been on atleast 5 miles. I have done this with my max for 6 + years and 200k. i think my pump would be dead if there was crud buildup.
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I'll take your word for it. One fewer thing to fret about as I'm passing gas stations with my idiot light on, lol!
Originally Posted by PAREDLINE
Contrary to popular opinion, letting your fuel run low will not cause crud to enter your engine. Simply because there is a screen on the fuel pump intake that makes this almost impossible.
thank GOD i live a couple miles from a costco's with premium 93 gas @ $2.06 
and also i reset the trip meter on every fillup, that way i can monitor how much gas i have left given the type of driving i've done throughout the tank. wut i do is ~350 i fill up.
and also i reset the trip meter on every fillup, that way i can monitor how much gas i have left given the type of driving i've done throughout the tank. wut i do is ~350 i fill up.
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
I'm not sure if its just me or what!
Could you repeat that in English please? If I understand you correctly, you say that you wait until your gas light has been on for about 5 miles and you then buy gas, but your average filllup is about 1.5 gallons. Is that correct?
If you've driven 200K in 6+ years, you must be stopping at the gas station several times a week. Am I missing something here?
And what you are saying has nothing to with running out of gas because you still have almost 2 gallons left when you buy gas. Perhaps that's what you're trying to say but you're not being very clear.
Could you repeat that in English please? If I understand you correctly, you say that you wait until your gas light has been on for about 5 miles and you then buy gas, but your average filllup is about 1.5 gallons. Is that correct?
If you've driven 200K in 6+ years, you must be stopping at the gas station several times a week. Am I missing something here?
And what you are saying has nothing to with running out of gas because you still have almost 2 gallons left when you buy gas. Perhaps that's what you're trying to say but you're not being very clear.
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Now I understand, however, it still doesn't make sense.
I fillup whenever the price of gas drops to a reasonable level and only buy $10 or $20 worth if its not. There is a price game going on where I live and the price drops about twice a week but you never know when or for long and people line up to fill up when it does drop.
I wouldn't go out of my way to constantly buy 1.5 to 3 gallons of gas.
I fillup whenever the price of gas drops to a reasonable level and only buy $10 or $20 worth if its not. There is a price game going on where I live and the price drops about twice a week but you never know when or for long and people line up to fill up when it does drop.
I wouldn't go out of my way to constantly buy 1.5 to 3 gallons of gas.
Originally Posted by krismax
I put on average between 1/8 3/16 in at every stop .But if im going 600miles i fill it up if i stay within my area i go with the 1/8 to 3/16 rule and dont put more in into gas light comes on. i do the gas that way because i stop at the minimarts because other things and it saves 100lbs which helps gas milage
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Originally Posted by Fork
Noticed we all missed this. ES - you're using 89 octane? Dude? ARE YOU NUTZ? You'll screw up your engine using low-octane gas. No wonder you only got 350 miles out of your tank... 
