removing transmision, problem, help.
removing transmision, problem, help.
well, first a few weeks ago, I asked people around to help me remove the trans. form my crashed car. but little did I know that my new neighborhood was a 25 years experience mechanic and would happly help me for free.
he is a good mechanic but this is at my house, and he has just gone trought a brain surgery so he can't do the work just help around.
ok now to business. this is my crashed car, so we just cut wires and remove anything from the way. passenger axel is still in place. (but the three small bolds in the middle section of it are off, broke off
questions
1 do i need to remove the passenger axel?
2 how many bolts around transmission?
3 Is the trans. made of two parts, can I just remove the smaller part? or it has to be completely removed?
4 do i need to remove the metal arm from between the engine and transmision. (cross member?)
little info:
we removed all 12mm bolts, (that is when we tried to remove the smaller transmision part)
then since we couldn't pry it off, we secured back in and removed other bolts, the 17mm bolts (except one on top) driver axle, tires, starter, all sorts of plastics, motor mount removed, as mentioned passenger axel still in place.
so main question.
what has to be removed to get the MANUAL transmision out of my car.
Thanks for any input.
he is a good mechanic but this is at my house, and he has just gone trought a brain surgery so he can't do the work just help around.
ok now to business. this is my crashed car, so we just cut wires and remove anything from the way. passenger axel is still in place. (but the three small bolds in the middle section of it are off, broke off
questions
1 do i need to remove the passenger axel?
2 how many bolts around transmission?
3 Is the trans. made of two parts, can I just remove the smaller part? or it has to be completely removed?
4 do i need to remove the metal arm from between the engine and transmision. (cross member?)
little info:
we removed all 12mm bolts, (that is when we tried to remove the smaller transmision part)
then since we couldn't pry it off, we secured back in and removed other bolts, the 17mm bolts (except one on top) driver axle, tires, starter, all sorts of plastics, motor mount removed, as mentioned passenger axel still in place.
so main question.
what has to be removed to get the MANUAL transmision out of my car.
Thanks for any input.
1 You don't really *need* to remove the axle if you don't care about the car. Removing the passenger-side axle makes reinstallation easier. You will at least need to separate the axle from the transmission.
2 I count 10 bolts, and my FSM claims the same. I've attached an image showing you where they are.
3 You probably *could* remove the differential housing from the bellhousing, but why would you want to? It's much easier to remove the whole unit and disassemble if needed once it's on the bench.
4 Different people have different approaches. I personally loosen the bolts holding up the crossmember so the engine/tranny can tilt downward, other people remove the crossmember entirely. To answer your question: you don't have to remove it.
Minimally, you need to pull the driver-side axle, disconnect everything attached to the transmission: Clutch slave cylinder, starter, ground wire, gear position switch wire (unplug it up top, not at the switch), vehicle speed sensor, crankshaft position sensor, shift control rod.
Once all this stuff is off, you can support the engine with a jack on the crossmember (a block of wood between the jack and oilpan if you removed the crossmember), remove the mount through bolt, lower the engine and slide it off. Hmm, that sounds easy when you say it like that
Make sure your car is jacked up high enough to slide the transmission out once it's off.
You might want to grab a piece of scrap plywood to 'land' the transmission on; sliding it out is much easier this way, and it protects your driveway if you accidentally drop the tranny. A tranny jack is worth it's weight in gold, but most people don't bother renting them.
Also, be prepared to catch this thing when it comes off; it's very heavy! I usually lay a few blankets across my fenders and place a 2x4 on them spanning the engine bay. Tie your transmission to that and get someone with some muscles to support the weight of the transmission as you slide it off the engine.
Good luck!
2 I count 10 bolts, and my FSM claims the same. I've attached an image showing you where they are.
3 You probably *could* remove the differential housing from the bellhousing, but why would you want to? It's much easier to remove the whole unit and disassemble if needed once it's on the bench.
4 Different people have different approaches. I personally loosen the bolts holding up the crossmember so the engine/tranny can tilt downward, other people remove the crossmember entirely. To answer your question: you don't have to remove it.
Minimally, you need to pull the driver-side axle, disconnect everything attached to the transmission: Clutch slave cylinder, starter, ground wire, gear position switch wire (unplug it up top, not at the switch), vehicle speed sensor, crankshaft position sensor, shift control rod.
Once all this stuff is off, you can support the engine with a jack on the crossmember (a block of wood between the jack and oilpan if you removed the crossmember), remove the mount through bolt, lower the engine and slide it off. Hmm, that sounds easy when you say it like that

Make sure your car is jacked up high enough to slide the transmission out once it's off.
You might want to grab a piece of scrap plywood to 'land' the transmission on; sliding it out is much easier this way, and it protects your driveway if you accidentally drop the tranny. A tranny jack is worth it's weight in gold, but most people don't bother renting them.
Also, be prepared to catch this thing when it comes off; it's very heavy! I usually lay a few blankets across my fenders and place a 2x4 on them spanning the engine bay. Tie your transmission to that and get someone with some muscles to support the weight of the transmission as you slide it off the engine.
Good luck!
sryth nice detailed explaination. when matt bhlem pulled mine off we pulled both axles, it makes it a lot easier. the cross member and y-pipe didnt get touched. car was jacked up 20 inches on racing jack then jack stands on frame rails. i put the jack under the tranny wiggled it loose and lowered the jack and pulled it out from under the car. the trans is heavy, but you can pick it up no problem (about 75 lbs. with no fluid). consider this though: the only reason we could use the jack was because it was a racing jack the contact plate was about 4.5 inch wide, IMO a regular 2 ton jack is too small to use. just my 2 cents
ok, just letting you guys know, I didn't notice it, but when I saw the picture above I realized that I was only missing one bolt from the bottom of the tran. I went on removing, and we removed the transmission out today.
I can see how it is not as hard to take it out, once you know what you are doing.
Thanks everyone.
I can see how it is not as hard to take it out, once you know what you are doing.
Thanks everyone.
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