coilovers
06-22-2005, 06:58 PM
#3
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The ones on ebay are just sleeves that need a shock to slide on to. The ones on ebay also will make your car incredibly bouncey. Your handling will become scary. I have also seen the springs break on these in a car that had 4 people in it. Full coilovers include the spring and shock. They are often matched to each other. They also sometimes feature rebound adjustability and sperate height adjustbility on the shock body. Sometimes they can also feature separate rebound and compression adjustbality and camber adjustablity, but I don't think this is an option on maximas. Seperate height adjustabilty on the shock body allows you to change the height of the car with out affecting any other part of the strut assembly itself. Overall suspension geometry will stil be affected though. A good set of coilovers and tires is one of the best performance mods you can do.
Your car's suspension is a very important piece of the puzzle and deffetly one you don't want to cheap out on. It'll end up costing you much much more in the long run.
Your car's suspension is a very important piece of the puzzle and deffetly one you don't want to cheap out on. It'll end up costing you much much more in the long run.
06-22-2005, 06:58 PM
#4
basically....the ride quality sucks....and they are just ride height adjustable springs......true 800 dolla+ coilovers are always a strut/spring combo.....ride quality is usually good and they usually have both dampening and height adjustability....Tein Basics dont have dampening adjustment but from what i am told they handle great and are a comfy ride.....and also the pair spring/strut combo are engineered together to be the best possible dynamics for the car
06-22-2005, 07:53 PM
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main difference is in th quality made for the spring. the spring is made of different materials which has to be durable in the cold, heat, n amount of load applied. its bascially like the commercial for seirra mist. the fake stuff that bites n the good stuff. why is one called seirra mist n the other stuff. you can taste the difference. in this case, you can feel the difference. n def feel the difference when you no longer have a spring cause it snapped due to overload
06-22-2005, 07:55 PM
#6
i thought ksports were kinda stiff. which is why i decided to just go with hr/illumina combo (decided meaning im still in the process of buying).
i donno if waht im posting is relevant to anything. i just never got a clear answer and id hate to make another thread about it since it seems like everyone has a different opinion
i donno if waht im posting is relevant to anything. i just never got a clear answer and id hate to make another thread about it since it seems like everyone has a different opinion
06-22-2005, 08:32 PM
#7
the key to coilovers is adjustability, which is the main reason IMO ppl buy them. You can adjust height, suspension travel, dampening, and camber ... also with d2's and ksports you can choose spring rates also. This system usualy consists of a lower bracket, spring perches, hats, spring, or pillowball mount... without those components it is not a coilover system. Price is also a factor of the engineering capabilities as things such as pillowballs and suspension geometry and design are quite important and very exact... you don't want generic off the shelf parts.
if matched well and adjusted right, coilovers can be just as comfortable as spring/strut combos that significantly drop the car, which happens to reduce suspension travel
if you want a detailed explanation, go here:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401151
if matched well and adjusted right, coilovers can be just as comfortable as spring/strut combos that significantly drop the car, which happens to reduce suspension travel
if you want a detailed explanation, go here:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401151
06-22-2005, 09:06 PM
#11
they are adjusted by the spring perches that allow the shock to travel up and down the bracket for ride height or the spring by preload.
you have to get alignments when you drop you car anyways, no different with coilovers.
and obviously coilovers would allow you to drop more than spring/struts given the adjustability of the product. Although significant drops are not good for the handling of the vehicle (to a certain extent) because you adversely effect the suspension geometry that the vehicle was designed for
you have to get alignments when you drop you car anyways, no different with coilovers.
and obviously coilovers would allow you to drop more than spring/struts given the adjustability of the product. Although significant drops are not good for the handling of the vehicle (to a certain extent) because you adversely effect the suspension geometry that the vehicle was designed for
06-23-2005, 12:37 AM
#12
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Go with the coils if your a real driver, if yer just gana bounce around town like a lil ***** just get some tein lowering springs and yet set, but real drivers go with full coil over set up, tein and yoko man some mean set ups
06-23-2005, 09:46 PM
#15
Hahaha "bounce around town like a little *****" hahahha
But seriously wtf, a "real driver"?
Its easy to just say "get this"
Obviously I'm considering everything before I just go get something.
Bouncing around town like a little ***** sounds appealing if I've got an extra couple hard earned hundred dollars to spend on another mod.
But seriously wtf, a "real driver"?
Its easy to just say "get this"
Obviously I'm considering everything before I just go get something.
Bouncing around town like a little ***** sounds appealing if I've got an extra couple hard earned hundred dollars to spend on another mod.
06-23-2005, 10:22 PM
#16
i think for the avg everyday driver there really isn't a need for coilovers, which btw has nothing to do with your driving ability.
from what i've seen, ppl buy coilovers because:
1. they want to slam the car for a crazy look and yet have adjustability in the event they want to rise the height
2. performance oriented individuals that like the adjustability of height, camber, and dampening
from what i've seen, ppl buy coilovers because:
1. they want to slam the car for a crazy look and yet have adjustability in the event they want to rise the height
2. performance oriented individuals that like the adjustability of height, camber, and dampening
06-23-2005, 10:28 PM
#17
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honestly i got ksports cause:
1) i can adjust how low i wanna go and i can slam the heck outta the car.
2) i believe the handling and ride qualit is going to be much better than a shock and spring combo.
3) k sports look so damn sexy and only a little more expensive than shock and spring combo, so why not?
!
1) i can adjust how low i wanna go and i can slam the heck outta the car.
2) i believe the handling and ride qualit is going to be much better than a shock and spring combo.
3) k sports look so damn sexy and only a little more expensive than shock and spring combo, so why not?
!
06-24-2005, 09:07 AM
#20
Originally Posted by chillin014
Hahaha "bounce around town like a little *****" hahahha
But seriously wtf, a "real driver"?
Its easy to just say "get this"
Obviously I'm considering everything before I just go get something.
Bouncing around town like a little ***** sounds appealing if I've got an extra couple hard earned hundred dollars to spend on another mod.
But seriously wtf, a "real driver"?
Its easy to just say "get this"
Obviously I'm considering everything before I just go get something.
Bouncing around town like a little ***** sounds appealing if I've got an extra couple hard earned hundred dollars to spend on another mod.
06-25-2005, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JAYNUGZ
Go with the coils if your a real driver, if yer just gana bounce around town like a lil ***** just get some tein lowering springs and yet set, but real drivers go with full coil over set up, tein and yoko man some mean set ups
Everyone is a real driver since they all drive. Just because some people are going for looks rather than to drift or autocross their car or trying to take a turn like a Ferrai doesn't mean they can't drive. Ever think about those guys with a body kit?? why do they want their bumper to be scraping the ground??
06-25-2005, 11:09 PM
#27
Originally Posted by cefiro8701
hehe...ebay's bad...i've heard of people buying tein springs and only getting cut stock springs that have been spraypainted green...don't think you want something like that...
06-25-2005, 11:12 PM
#28
Originally Posted by rome06
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm not a bad scam to sell my stock "tein" springs after i get my coilovers......i think im gonna run up to lowes to get some green paint tomorow hehehe
u could leave them black and call them Eibach though...
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