OK, so Im very much into this... (Im secretly hoping it will help with an issue that I noticed last time at thunderhill- HARD braking on a bit of off-camber would make one of my tires hop)

BUT.... I have to know if the LTB-2 prevents this. I want em enough to do this : Post a pic of my LTB-2.



Red arrow shows the spot that I would think might be the only possible source of issues.

Please let me know if Im clear and I will paypal tonite!!
Thanks JClaw

 

It should clear. The bar bolts to the biggest hole in the control arm (slightly over 1 inch in diameter) and passes above the control arm, to the tow hooks on each side and are parallel to one another. The picture is a bit unclear though.

 

So if I am understanding, it attaches at the red arrow...





And NOT at any attachment points in this picture...




Wait, clearly I am not understanding. The biggest HOLE in the control arm... hmm... gotta get a better look at it then from below.. Breaking out the jack!

 

OK sorry for my last retarded post.
Heres where is attaches? in the Hole? Notice there is PLENTY of room for the LTB-2 (also seen in pic)

Woo Hoo! Paypal to be sent in 5 min! JClaw you da man!

 

There are two holes in the control arms. A smaller (1/2 of an inch) one on the outter edge of the control arm (closer to the wheels) and a big one (1 inch) very close to the control arm pivot.

Everything clears, your first picture was just a little unclear in the foreground.

Edit: Bingo!

 

I am very interested, I have filled mounts and still get wheel hop. Will I still be one of the first ten buyers? I have Paypal ready, let me know. Thanks.

 

Ze paypal iz zent...

 

Welcome to the club.

PM sent.

 

hey dexter,

we'll also get installation instructions too right?

 

alright, the LTB-2 and this both fit, thats great, i will be ordering shortly :-)

 

Yes, including a list of the material (every washer, every bolt) to make sure nothing is missing.

Anyway, if there's something you don't understand with the installation, I'll be glad to guide you through it.

Still have 3 sets available at 179$ shipped.

 

Money sent. I was waiting for pics, but I couldn't resist.

 

Ok received it.

Yours (and the next few ones) will ship with the next batch (Monday, July 25th).

 

do you know yet if these will work on the 5th gen. i would really like a set to put on when i put the new motor mounts in. very interested and will need for my set up.

 

Unfortunately they won't work. I just checked at the dealership first hand (they had both of them in stock). The 4th and 5th control arms are physically the same size, and both have two holes, but the 5th gen control arms have much smaller holes and they are not at the same position. The holes aren't even big enough to fit a 1/2" bolt through.

 

JClaw I just sent my payment to you. I hope I got in the first 10 because I paid 179. If you have any questions or problems please let me know.

 

ok well that sucks, if the 4rth gen ones sell a lot, and there was interest in the 5th gen guys wanting these would you look into making a set for us? just curious.

 

I don't think it's possible to make a set for 5th gens without it requiring drilling or welding. I don't have access to a 5th gen test car anyway. Having seen the CA's, there really is no solid mounting point available.

 

i cant wait for some reviews on these

 

Well the ball is in Canada Post's camp now. Hopefully they do their job right.

 

Just checked a 3rd gen and it looks like the setup would be similar, needs a bigger spacer though.

 

Still 2 sets available at 179$ shipped.

 

hey jclaw, can you confirm that mine's out for delivery? how soon or how late?

 

I brought it to them Wednesday as planned but it left Thursday. The lady said I was 10 minutes late

 

So lemmie see if I understand how to install these.

1) Jack up a wheel
2) Attach the bar
3) Lower the car off jack
4) Repeat for other wheel
5) Tighten the assembly to taste

Is it that simple?

 

JClaw - just curious - how does Canada Post get stuff like your traction bars to the US?? Do they go through some "homeland security" checking of the package , or is this like sending a letter? Is Canada Post the equivalent to the US Post Office or something like Fed Ex or UPS?

OK, I'm just eager to get them - I looked at my 99's suspension, and your solution will work well to hold the A-arm in position. The traction bars will go almost straight back from the tow hook to the 1-inch hole in the control arm, and will be about two and 1/2 feet long, which should allow normal movement of the control arm.

WIth slicks, should these bars be set to push against the control arm slightly? My tires push inward and rub on the inner wheelwell panels when launching with just a 50-shot - and make one heck of a noise in the process.

Kudos to you for thinking up this one.

 

Is there any left in the first batch?

 

2 more i believe.

 

Yes. Actually you can do it without a jack if you want to. Mine is at stock height and I do it without the jack.

 

Canada post is much like US postal service. I don't like UPS because they always end up charging the receiver something. Canada post is slower, but at least they don't f*ck you over like UPS.

 

PM sent .

 

traction bars installed. there is a problem...

the bar on the passenger side fits perfect just like the one on the driver side. turning and everything isn't a problem at all. car pulls like a monster. Jclaw's deal is definitely worth the money if you want to drag race.

however, after a few dragging runs, car didn't seem to have anything wrong. but after a while i saw a puddle of oil on the floor right under the oil pan. i freaked out. then i looked, it's just oil everywhere. but it drips kind of quick (like 2 drops/sec).

i jacked the car up to see it closer, it was a banged up oil filter that's leaking. and very obviously, the traction bar had squashed in a little bit (around 1/2 inch deep) into the oil filter and made a leaking hole. i had to run a oil change at that moment, and took out the passenger side traction bar. i'll probably have to add a few washers at the tow hook end to get the bar a little clearance from the oil filter.

thought i share this with you guys. be careful when you get to that passenger traction bar. when your oil filter is touching the traction bar, that's not going to be good because the engine moves during each pull, and oil filter and traction bar would bang on each other and filter will go "ka-put". glad i caught that before anything crazy happens.

 

are you lowered...? would that cause issues... another question is.. would this be helpful for hard highway driving... like hard corners etc.. or jsut acceleration by preventing wheel hop?

 

thanks for the info, I'll definitely add washers or something to creat a gap in there.

 

Wow that is good to know. I will definitely watch out for this.

 

That never happened on the 97 with the 3.0. I will have to check on what kind of fitler was used, and if there is any difference is size with others for the 3.0.

I don't understand how this happened. There really is a big gap between the bar and the oil filter.

The most likely explaination is that you installed the bars on the INNER side of the tow hook brackets, as opposed to the outer side. Try the outer, it boggles my mind how it could possibly touch it if it was installed on the outer side. I can always provide more spacers, but if it is installed on the outer side, I highly doubt anybody makes an oil filter huge enough to hit. Try that and get back to me.



On a different note, I pulled about 15 60 foots all in the 2.13-2.12-2.11-2.10-2.09-2.08 range on Yokohama Avid 215/60/15 all-season street tires set at 25 psi (with a few zip ties on the front springs) and these bars last weekend. This is drag radial territory.

 

well, i do have them installed at the outer side, and it broke my filter. now, i admit, i've been running with the 10 dollar mobile 1 oil filter. but only this time, i found a bosche filter for half the price and decided to try it out. that bosche filter is longer than the mobile 1 filter, so is fram's tough guard. actually mobile 1 filter is an outstanding shorter filter. tough guard and bosche has the same length. and i know for sure if i stick with the mobile 1 filter, i wouldn't have this problem. so i'll say to warn everyone that when they install it, just be careful and watch for that issue.

when i install the traction bar, there is very little clearance between the bar and the filter, like around 1/8". i thought it wouldn't be much of a problem. so i drove and later found that the engine must have vibrated pretty hard to have the filter and the bar bangin on each other. well, now i have learned this one. i'll go find some washers and spacers to space it out. also, i cut the fender well guard pieces so that they wouldn't grind with my tires. my car is dropped 2", and rims are wide profiles, i'm barely touching it without the bars, now i noticed grinding prints on those plastic pieces because the traction bar kinda pushed them outwards.

but i have to say, these traction bars really do help with take off traction. my tires are gripping much harder than before and no wheel hops occured either. this is a very valuable stepping stone Jclaw made for us. thanks buddy.

 

Sure. I simply removed the plastic piece, the stupid thing just flaps left and right on its own.

 

spiggy, you haven't got yours yet? dude, these are some good Zhit jclaw is selling.


i dont notice anything with the corners, maybe a little stiffer, but i'm not claiming anything; some orgers like to bash even when they don't have one installed.

no problems on the high ways either. i actually drove from baton rouge to lafayette this morning and it handled just fine. i want to say, the overall feel is very stiff. that's all. lots of people like stiffer cars, especially out of our boat-cruising maxima's.


i remember driving crazy before and the wheel hop problem is very serious with my car, but now it is totally eliminated. i'm so happy this deal comes through.

time to leave a sales feedback for JCLAW...

 

I noticed it is considerably easier to turn for me because I have no power steering, you can almost feel the control arms not wandering badly around, which makes low speed turns and parking lots much easier to me. Like cuy1 said, it feels more solid.

Thanks for the feedback. I will send messages to everyone who bought a set about the filter, and make it more pominent in the instructions.

For the record, what motor mounts do you have? Stock? PR? ES?