If you're having problems with your WSP Y-pipe, please post what you've experienced with this product. It seems that Dallas or Dan are fed up with my complaints about hissing from the flex section and they will not do anything to fix it unless it's at my own expense. They sent me header wrap and clamps to remedy the problem but the noise is still there. For those of you that are looking for a y-pipe, please take the other route and spend a little more with Cattman's product. From what I've heard on this board, no one seems to have fitment or hissing issues with the Cattman pipe. You'll definitely get what you pay for with the least expensive pipe: NOISE! and RATTLING (for some people).

 

Thanks for the heads up. You made me want a Stillen or Cattman Y-Pipe even more.

 

I got another one with better O2 sensor plug alignment and it's rattling like crazy against my subframe now.

 

Same here, I still get these annoying rattles. I emailed Dallas about sending me header wraps for the bees in the can noises. So far, he hasn't got back to me. Hm....don't tell me they expect me to pay for the header wraps? Anyway, I don't recommend WSP, go for the Cattman.

 

Well I do have an occassional rattle but no bees in the can sound. I can teel there is more air flow than stock b/c my intake makes much more noise now. I like it! Dallas and Dan have been very friendly to me. I just need to wait for a dry day to figure out that rattle.

 

My pipe went on fine. It was too far over to the passengers side, so much that it was vibrating and rattling under some instances at the connector. I took it to a muffler shop and got the pipe heated and bent over just a bit and it's not rattling any more. I don't have any other issues and am happy with the product other than that. It's louder now with the pipe but no bees in the can sound for me.

 

No bee's, nor any rattles. works for me.

 

Marlon:

You asked for header wrap so we sent you some, then you asked for a new Y pipe and we didn't send you one because you said we had made a mistake or sold you a defective pipe, we did not of course. As I recall you also said you would be complaining on the forum, well so you did.

I explained to you that if you had just bought an analog cell phone and a month later the cell company comes out with a newer technology such as a digital model, would the cell company owe you or be responsible to give you a free upgrade? Probably not.

What we have done is develope a kit where the flex section can be replaced at a low cost with a lined section, (in fact we are working on a kit for the Stillen and Cattman pipes as well.) (Since we are close to releasing our newest 304 stainless tig welded Y pipes we figured there might be a demand for upgrading theirs too.)

We as well as the other Y pipe makers have been using unlined flex sections because until just recently there was no other option available. We have tried the lined flex sections and noticed it pretty well eliminates and hiss or bees in a can sound because of the braided liner inside it.

Not all cars get the bees in a can sound but a few do, we know these new lined sections will work well and that is why we have switched to that style flex. We would have switched sooner but they were unavailable.

Just so you know: The hiss or bees in a can sound is caused by exhaust gas flowing over the corrugations inside the flex section, the turbulence created causes some hissing or bees in a can sound.

Dan and I will be in Kansas City at the Nissan meet, we'll have a lined flex section with us as well as some unlined ones for anyone that would like to see the difference.

We have installed several of these kits now and we really appreciate those who took the time to work with us and drive all the way here so we could try it on a car. As soon as we get more flex sections in they will be available, we will post installation photos on our website along with a price.

regards

Dallas & Dan

 

ya i have that exact prob too, i had to drop the pipe to replace that sensor a few weeks ago!

 

Yeah, I am having the same problems. I am not wanting to complain nor am I looking for any agruements or fighting. I am just wanting the kit to fix my terrible sounding pipe. Dallas and Dan have always been understanding and great people to deal with, and I know they will handle this situation properly and send out the kits. Nobody makes perfect products, they are as human as me and you, and if they are willing to fix the problem, they are doing the best they can.

 

When I installed my pipe, I took the sensors off while the pipe was on the car, was this not possible for you?

 

I couldn't get one of the old sensors out. It's still in the stock y-pipe!! I put in a plug and had to order one from UltimateZ.com, you know how $$$ and hard they are to find. And then when i went to put it back in i had to take the whole pipe back off!!!! 2 hours to change a O2 Sensor!

 

Dallas or Dan:

Will the fix kit be discounted, or priced lower, for those that already have the WSP pipe?

 

How fair is it to the people that have suported WSP and bought a "flawed Design". I don't call it New Technology like your little phone analogy. If they put out a phone and stated it was crystal clear but was fuzzy, would you be mad? Yeppers! Same thing you put out a pipe and stated no bees in can and what not. I read your guys posts you stated it yourself. You sold these people a "flawed design" IMO Therefore you need to replace the flex section for free or replace the pipe. If not your not getting my business and I'm sure a few others will follow in my footsteps.


R

 

Warpspeed sent me a stainless steel pipe for free after the aluminum one didn't fit. The aluminum one had major "bees in a can" sound, the steel one does not. The steel one had the o2 sensor problem as shown in the photo above. After 2-3 weeks, it went bad because it rubbed against the car. I had a muffler shop fill the hole and make a new one for a new o2 sensor. I also had them reinforce the pipe some to stop it from rattling. This extra work + sensor cost about $150. I didn't ask Warpspeed for a new one because I was sick of screwing around on my garage floor with it and just wanted it fixed.

- Jeremy

 

Jeremy that sucks cause the price of the pipe plus the 150$ extra in headaches you could have got a cattman pipe. Makes ya mad huh? Make it right WSP!



R

 

Well said Gumby510. Dallas and Dan knew about the bees in a can issue but went on and sold the pipes anyway. If that was the case, they should've postponed the group buy and waited for the lined flex sections to come in no matter how long it would take.

 

People, give Warpspeed some freaking credit for how well they have handled or attempted to handle any possible complaints or problems with the Y-pipes.. This company is so new, they initially started out to give an alternative to Cattman's problematic 3rd gen Y-pipe which was hitting sway bars, hanging too low.. etc... And what did Cattman do when he received these complaints? No, people did not get FREE headerwrap, No people did not get replacement pipes, No there were no special kits made to upgrade the Y-pipe, they were told to put a dent in the pipe if it hits the sway bars... Nice, easy and cheap (for Cattman) fix.. however it didn't work in many cases either, and I don't know about you, but I wouldn't really feel like denting something I just bought for a 1/3 grand$.
Waprspeed is just starting out, they began with 3rd gen Y-pipes which everyone is generally very happy with, to developing Y-pipes for the 4th gen, still keeping the price very good, and trying to create them perfect, always keeping the ORG informed and answering any questions people have.. There is now a full WSP exaust available and upgrades for Jeep Grand Cherokees as well..

All I am saying is, give these guys some credit for what they are doing, offering Ypipes at a low price and doing more then ANY of those other manufacturers would do as far as solving problems with their products.. Stillen would tell you that they can't help you because you drive your car fast ... Sure there could be a flaw with the product, not everyone even has it, but at least WSP is doing things to help solve this... Before bashing, please understand their position and how helpful Dan and Dallas have been..

 

Alright... I've come to this conclusion so far... Warpspeed is trying hard to satisfy its customers the most they can. Also remember that every first edition product will always have some flaws to them. They are posing a threat to big companies like Stillen and Cattman. I haven't heard to many complaints about Cattman but I kno Stillen are nuthin but robbers and snotty *****les on the phone, emails, etc. Warpspeed is trying to make a good pipe for us. They said they came out with a redesigned pipe right now. Lets see how that one turns out. Some prototypes aren't as good as future models. Thats called an "upgrade". Without having problems you wont be able to fix problems. There were Problems with the Stillen V1 when it first came out. The V2 also. The willwood big brake kit too. The damn rims wouldnt fit over the callipers (17's). But they all fix their problems. Don't hate a new company because they had a flaw in their first design. All compnies will start out like that. Not every car is the same and not every person drives the same.

 

Guess I am fortunate or maybe I am too ignorant about the bees in a can sound. My pipe fit on the car like a glove at installation. It starting rattling about 50 miles after installation but I'm not too worried since thet rattles seem to come at low speeds and spontaneously for a couple seconds. They forgot to include gaskets when I ordered my pipe and I had to reuse my 100K old gaskets. But I emailed them and within 4-5 days I got new gaskets. They are very customer service oriented (in my opinion) and the power gains are immediately noticeable. Based upon my experience, I would recommend them and buy from them again. I do not wish to have header wrap (free or not) b/c I've heard it accelerates rust.

 

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