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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Nice investment and good to hear you are finally have resolved your problems with shifter. I have SRE also, and I must say I love the change-its dramatic especially with the urethane shifter bushing. Only thing I have noticed is sometimes its really hard to get it into 3rd gear...Do you have the same problem or its just me? Is it fixable?(Sorry to jack the thread).
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Whats wrong with the bushing that came with the new shifter ? I can see replacing an old, cracked bushing.

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Nice investment and good to hear you are finally have resolved your problems with shifter. I have SRE also, and I must say I love the change-its dramatic especially with the urethane shifter bushing. Only thing I have noticed is sometimes its really hard to get it into 3rd gear...Do you have the same problem or its just me? Is it fixable?(Sorry to jack the thread).
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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Whats wrong with the bushing that came with the new shifter ? I can see replacing an old, cracked bushing.

This shifter doesn't come with the shift bushing. That is a seperate item entirelly.

I have trouble getting it into third, well not trouble really (I can always get it into 3rd gear), but it does feel worse than it did stock. It just doesn't like to get into gear that easily feels like hitting a wall of sorts sometimes.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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This shifter doesn't come with the shift bushing. That is a seperate item entirelly.
Yes, its a bushing from Top Element Tuning.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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thats why i like my pacesteer sts so much, u can adjust the throw and height . it requires taking everything apart to do so, but onc eu get it just right it rocks,

my third is a lil hard to get in to, but not too bad.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Hmmm...I don't think I'm understanding this. Looking at the pic below:


Isn't that the rubber bushing inside the shifter mount? Yours didn't come with this???


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This shifter doesn't come with the shift bushing. That is a seperate item entirelly.

I have trouble getting it into third, well not trouble really (I can always get it into 3rd gear), but it does feel worse than it did stock. It just doesn't like to get into gear that easily feels like hitting a wall of sorts sometimes.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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In your first post in this thread, what were you referring to as the shifter support bracket, that would give you better shifting feel. I imagine you and dumkuh are talking about the same this. The bushing he is referring to connects with the support bracket (or IS the support bracket, IDK), and connects to the "stationary" shifter linkage, the one that doesn't move with the shifter.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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rip your leather (on ****) on the install BigLou? me too. i thought about just taking it right off too, but im getting the AE **** soon so it doesn't matter! i cant wait.
Yea, it ripped a long time ago, but with the two true aftermarket ***** I've tried on the stock shifter, I can safely say that the stock one feels better right now. In person, it doesn't look that bad, but it's something I'll eventually replace.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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On my first post, I was referring to part# 34560N in the diagram below. That bracket has a rubber piece that goes across it. I thought the bushing that nismos14 was talking about was the rubber piece that's on the bottom portion of the shifter itself.



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In your first post in this thread, what were you referring to as the shifter support bracket, that would give you better shifting feel. I imagine you and dumkuh are talking about the same this. The bushing he is referring to connects with the support bracket (or IS the support bracket, IDK), and connects to the "stationary" shifter linkage, the one that doesn't move with the shifter.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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That's where the linkage attaches to the rubber flexible piece, correct? Dave B I believe used some duct tape and zip ties to stiffen his up when he had his maxima, or was that someone else? I can't remember...anyways, after that Top Element Tuning started making a new bushing made out of urethane that dumkuh has. I guess you're talking about replacing the one you have with a new, OEM unit?
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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That's the part! Without a doubt, I'm replacing that part with just an OEM one. I prefer OEM in this case. But what threw me off is what nismos14 said. I thought he's referring to the bushing at the end of the shifter itself.

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That's where the linkage attaches to the rubber flexible piece, correct? Dave B I believe used some duct tape and zip ties to stiffen his up when he had his maxima, or was that someone else? I can't remember...anyways, after that Top Element Tuning started making a new bushing made out of urethane that dumkuh has. I guess you're talking about replacing the one you have with a new, OEM unit?
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DR-Max
Hmmm...I don't think I'm understanding this. Looking at the pic below:


Isn't that the rubber bushing inside the shifter mount? Yours didn't come with this???

Thats a bearing inside the shifter.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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I see, I had no idea its a bearing.

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Thats a bearing inside the shifter.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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I cut my STS, it did make it notchier but when I added the Synthetic fluid to my tranny that help bring back the smooth shifting. Not 100% but most.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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I've got a B&M sts and I had actually thought about replacing it with a stock one when I first got the car- but I got used to it, and now I love it. It just feels like its hard to get into gears sometimes, I guess its because I can feel every little thing it does. Anyone else notice that?

I love how I can rip it 2nd - 3rd in a flash though .
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I do notice that, however I feel it gives me better reponse to the shifting, for lack of a better word.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
I cut my STS, it did make it notchier but when I added the Synthetic fluid to my tranny that help bring back the smooth shifting. Not 100% but most.
what exactly is this process? mine seems really notchy.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mendon99
what exactly is this process? mine seems really notchy.
Maybe I'm not understanding his "process" or your question right, but I'm pretty sure he means changing over to a fully synthetic tranny fluid. This is simply draining the tranny through the drain bolt or shifter sensor, and refilling through the refill hole at the front side of the tranny.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
Maybe I'm not understanding his "process" or your question right, but I'm pretty sure he means changing over to a fully synthetic tranny fluid. This is simply draining the tranny through the drain bolt or shifter sensor, and refilling through the refill hole at the front side of the tranny.

Exaclty.

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Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
Maybe I'm not understanding his "process" or your question right, but I'm pretty sure he means changing over to a fully synthetic tranny fluid. This is simply draining the tranny through the drain bolt or shifter sensor, and refilling through the refill hole at the front side of the tranny.
exactly what i wanted. thanks
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Originally Posted by chilled
I've got a B&M sts and I had actually thought about replacing it with a stock one when I first got the car- but I got used to it, and now I love it. It just feels like its hard to get into gears sometimes, I guess its because I can feel every little thing it does. Anyone else notice that?

I love how I can rip it 2nd - 3rd in a flash though .

I definately notice that, it's a strange feeling sometimes.
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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I walked in the door after getting home from work and look whats sitting on the floor waiting for me.

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This is the shifter that I ordered from Dynasty Auto. It's exactly 14" in length. I ordered it Monday night and got it in today. What do you guys think?
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 04:44 AM
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That looks okay. Some of the welds look alot worse than the SRE. The sre didn't have the square block thing on the bottom. This one should be good though.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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looks good DR-Max.

the welds on the SRE weren't that great either nismos, they had undercut galore, at least mine did. still should be and has been fine though.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Thanks guys, I can't wait to see how it feels when its finally on this weekend. I'll let y'all know.
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Definately, post up some pics and your review, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Just remember to tighten up that shifter - linkage bolt correctly. Good luck with the install.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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I took some measurements.........not sure how this compare to the SRE:
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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BTW, has anyone had any trouble disconnecting the cat from the y-pipe to gain access to the shifting mechanisms? Any tips you can provide to make this process painless? I just hate messing with exhaust pipe bolts because most of the time they are a PITA to remove.
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Make sure you dent you're cat heat shield in quite a bit so the shifter will clear. Other than that, it does look good and you will have a big grin on you're face
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Originally Posted by DR-Max
BTW, has anyone had any trouble disconnecting the cat from the y-pipe to gain access to the shifting mechanisms? Any tips you can provide to make this process painless? I just hate messing with exhaust pipe bolts because most of the time they are a PITA to remove.
no problems. i didn't take any of hte exhaust off completly at all, i just connected those 2 like you said, and moved them out of the way.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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I had to pay an exhaust shop to cut my exhaust bolts off and throw some new ones in the first time I tried to install my STS (remember, it took me four times to be successful.). Well worth the $20 or so that I paid the guy.
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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We'll my STS is in!!! I started at 11am and finished at 4pm...took me a while because I ran into some snags. The first one was the cat bolts, it would not come out for anything, even after spraying penetrating oil all over it and letting it work into the bolts. I even broke 2 of my 14mm sockets (both Craftsman). So like some of you did, I paid a muffler shop $20 to get them out and put new nuts, the bolts were reused. They had this thing that looks like a threaded washer which cleaned the threads along the bolts, they look spanking new afterwards and the new nuts went right in. Then the 2nd snag was the shifter itself. The shifter was hitting the trim and it sits way forward. I forgot to take a side by side pic of the STS and OEM shifters but believe it when I say the STS is a lot straighter. So I went back to the muffler shop and they heated and bent the shifter to the exact angle as the oem shifter. Problems solved!

First impression is that the shifter feels totally different. It'll definitely take some getting used to. I really like the fact that I move my arm a lot less when shifting yet the shifter feels a tad tight even after adjusting the locking nut, that connects the shifter to the shift rod, several times. You really can't leave the nut too lose otherwise it'll fall off. I also had to get a new bolt for the shifter since the shifter bearing holes are a lot smaller than the oem one. The shifter is actually 1.25" shorter than the oem one. I think that this length is perfect feel-wise. Making it shorter will definitely require more effort in shifting. I might shorten it some later on when I'm more used to this new shifter. Look-wise, its hard to tell the height difference between the STS and the OEM, but I definitely feel that the STS is noticeably shorter. I also replaced the shift rod support bracket and the return spring. This eliminated my previous problem where often times, the shifter will not go into 1st gear, like its hitting a wall. Now it snaps right in there w/o hesitation. I'm going for a drive now to break-in the new shifter.

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Congratulations, I'm sure it feels great. I still love getting in my car and driving, since I know how the shifter feels. Keep an eye on the shifter rod bolt, and make sure the shifter isn't loosening itself. It feels like a whole new car I'm sure, I love how mine feels now.
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I was a little worried about that nut that secures the shifter rod bolt so I ended up getting one of those locking nuts that has like this vinyl threading so basically it stays very snug even if it is not tighten down a lot. I also used a washer in addition to it. The shifter is tight, I mean I don't think I can shift with a flick of a wrist. I was thinking about why I was having such a hard time shifting to first before. I think its because the stock nut was coming loose and the return spring is exhausted so there is no tension that keeps the shifter straight thus making the shift sloppy and 1st gear is like hit and miss. Now, it just goes right in and now I have to teach myself how to shift differently adapt to the new tight shift feeling. I took it for a drive tonight and I'm able to shift way quicker now than with the oem shifter thus I can accelerate faster.

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Congratulations, I'm sure it feels great. I still love getting in my car and driving, since I know how the shifter feels. Keep an eye on the shifter rod bolt, and make sure the shifter isn't loosening itself. It feels like a whole new car I'm sure, I love how mine feels now.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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If the shifter is real tight, you should loosen that nut. It shouldnt be real tight. You should also throw some locktite on it as well. that teflon thats inside the nut will not be enough to hold it in place forever.
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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I just got around to putting locktight on it last weekend. Also, my new boots finally came. So I took some pix:



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looks great DR. i need some new boots somethin fierce.
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Boots, shifter, and **** look good! Those are from Redline, right?
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Yes they are. The only thing I had to do was to make the opening, where the e-brake handle and shifter, smaller on both boots. All I did was a loop stitch to accomplish that. You can't even see them because I did them from the inside. I really like how the black w/ beige stitching came out. It blends well with the interior. I'm planning on getting Wet Okoles seat covers, beige inners w/ black outters. Then I'll have to add some black accents on the door trims.

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Boots, shifter, and **** look good! Those are from Redline, right?
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
Ive had mine for at least 3 yrs.
Although i did cut mine down over a year ago too...,

But it felt real solid before i did. Its steel, not aluminum.
wanted to know, what is the bolt size that should be used for the OEM application? I just got my hands on a Pacesetter sts from another org member. if the OEM bolt wont work what is the needed bolt size? let me know thanks



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