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Old 12-10-2005, 04:32 AM
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Fastest Max is the 95 GXE? Is this why?

I did a few searches after I found this article and never came up with anything so I hope its not a repost.

http://www.injuryboard.com/view.cfm/Topic=887

"In August 2002, a New Jersey jury ruled that a design defect exists in the American version of the 1995 Nissan Maxima GXE. The ruling extended from a case involving a 45-year-old man who suffered severe leg and head injuries in an accident involving the model. William Ziemer, 45, was driving his 1995 Maxima on a two-lane road outside of Bernardsville, N.J., when a 1990 Ford Mustang traveling in the opposite direction struck his vehicle head-on. Ziemer suffered several fractured bones in his legs and severe brain damage when the car's sill, the lower edge of the body that runs from the front wheel well to the rear floor plate, collapsed, destroying the mounts for the floor plates and throwing the plaintiff forward.

Attorneys argued that a support along the sill, a feature available in all European versions of the Maxima GXE, would have prevented Ziemer's severe injuries. The sill support was not added to the American model until 1996. The jury awarded Ziemer $14.4 million."
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Yes, I already knew that and I keep saying it but nobody wants to listen. 95 gxe is the fastest 4th gen due to its weight and emissions. 97+ they have more emissions crap and they are re-enforced for better safety ratings. Ive heard the real wieght of a 95 GXE is about 2800-2900. I could be wrong but I heard it was.
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yes. it doesnt have all the extra options...so therefore weighs less...but its not like a huge difference
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Does this apply to all 95s? I knew we had aluminum bumper supports and less emissions equipment compared to 96-99. I really need to get this car weighted.
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the 95 are the lightest 4th gen max, that is why. The 95-96 even look a little shorter or smaller of a car. I think the 97 look hotter tho.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:43 AM
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until someone beats neals 14.5 you are right. i think hes car was 3102lbs, at least thats on one of his time slips.
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i ran a 14.2 not stock though, but with 17s and a full system, full spare, nissan jack in the trunk.
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he ran 14.5 stock. i dont know if his spare was out....
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here's neal's thread
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401613
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Old 12-10-2005, 10:26 AM
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I miss my 1995 GXE
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nissan 6
I miss my 1995 GXE
no you dont
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Ahh 95 GXE 5-spd, how wonderful you are to me. Too bad it has no options at all, but at least it doesn't weight much...
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I think my '95 SE should be pretty light. It doesn't have hardly any options, no sunroof, no leather, no bose, no auto trans, etc. I think the sunroof alone adds 100 lbs., and it's all positioned on the top of the car so it should handle better without it as well. I need to get this thing weighed.
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Sunroof only adds 35 lbs.
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Originally Posted by SMX95
i ran a 14.2 not stock though, but with 17s and a full system, full spare, nissan jack in the trunk.

got a timeslip?
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Originally Posted by jwmaxse
I think my '95 SE should be pretty light. It doesn't have hardly any options, no sunroof, no leather, no bose, no auto trans, etc. I think the sunroof alone adds 100 lbs., and it's all positioned on the top of the car so it should handle better without it as well. I need to get this thing weighed.
my dads 96 se auto, which is pretty much loaded save for leather, abs, and, auto climate, weighed 3110 with a 1/4 tank of gas. that was with a RSB and full interior.
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
got a timeslip?

It didnt seem my post went through. I had a horrible 60 foot, no traction at all. I believe it was a 2.60. After my new trans, Stillen flywheel, act stage 1, light weight 15's, gutted trunk, TS ECU I should nail a 13.4 somewhere in that area.
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Ok here it is.


R/T .537
60' 2.463
330 6.282
1/8 9.319
mph 81.44
1000 11.950
1/4 14.275
mph 97.59

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Precisely why I only considered 97+...better crash tests.
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Originally Posted by SMX95
Ok here it is.


R/T .537
60' 2.463
330 6.282
1/8 9.319
mph 81.44
1000 11.950
1/4 14.275
mph 97.59

I hate to go though this again with you, but that is the funkiest looking 14.2 time slip I have ever seen. #'s just don't add up. I ran in the 14.1-14.3 range probably 40 different times and know what a time slip from a bolt on maxima running low 14's should look like....and it is nothing like that.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:58 AM
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he has quite a slow 60' thats for sure. that slip is saying with traction/decent launch the car could run sub 14's.
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for 95s....
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Yah, it's to my understanding the GXE was always the lightest...
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Thats why im not going to get into this again. That's a legit slip my car slip. Neal ran a 14.5 with his bone stock maxima, yet to many it's hard to believe that But I do believe it. Each to his own.
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Originally Posted by SMX95
Thats why im not going to get into this again. That's a legit slip my car slip. Neal ran a 14.5 with his bone stock maxima, yet to many it's hard to believe that But I do believe it. Each to his own.

Saying Neal ran a 14.5 means nothing. You have to look at his 60', 330', 1/8 mph, and 1/4 mph. They add up, yours don't.

Here is the main reasons why that slip is BS, or a mistake

IIRC you ran 3-4 times the day you got that slip and non of the other runs resembled that.

To pull a 2.5 60' and then proceed to run a 14.2 would indicate fairly big power for a maxima, on the order of 230-240 whp. At the same time the slip shows that you trapped trapped 81.5 in the 1/8 and only gained 16mph after that....showing a car that does not make big power.

I well over 200 time slips with my I30 and also have a hand full of funky slips that don't make sense. Some saying times that I know I could not have ran or some with numbers that don't add up. I would never count those as legit slips because it was obvious something went wrong with the timing equipment, something blew across the track, or yada yada, yada.
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Can any of you gauge monkeys tell me something?
The other evening I was unable to blow off a Cirrus which is merely a 2.5 V6 I think, and I was watching the rpms stuck at 4000, no more, with my foot on the floor. I let him go at 95 since it was beginning to get dangerous. Is 4000 the most I should expect between 40 - 90? This is a 96 auto, fully loaded. Slightly crippled because one of the oxy sensors is bad.
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Originally Posted by clive
Can any of you gauge monkeys tell me something?
The other evening I was unable to blow off a Cirrus which is merely a 2.5 V6 I think, and I was watching the rpms stuck at 4000, no more, with my foot on the floor. I let him go at 95 since it was beginning to get dangerous. Is 4000 the most I should expect between 40 - 90? This is a 96 auto, fully loaded. Slightly crippled because one of the oxy sensors is bad.
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Originally Posted by clive
Can any of you gauge monkeys tell me something?
The other evening I was unable to blow off a Cirrus which is merely a 2.5 V6 I think, and I was watching the rpms stuck at 4000, no more, with my foot on the floor. I let him go at 95 since it was beginning to get dangerous. Is 4000 the most I should expect between 40 - 90? This is a 96 auto, fully loaded. Slightly crippled because one of the oxy sensors is bad.
You must be a crappy driver gauge monkey.
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and to think....i junked my '95 GXE...after i stripped the bejeezus out of it...it mustve weighed 2000lbs by then..
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wait wait wait...my i30 was built in 95...does that mean that a 96 i30 would be the lightest of them all too??
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I think safety thing was corrected by '96.

As far as I30s go maybe, do you have leather?
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i30's are most likely as heavy as the maxima GLE's...fully loaded models..maybe a little heavier. Still, maxima GXE's are lighter than I30's.
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Originally Posted by SMX95
Ok here it is.


R/T .537
60' 2.463
330 6.282
1/8 9.319
mph 81.44
1000 11.950
1/4 14.275
mph 97.59

I've never seen a legit slip like that for a 4G Max. 2.46 60' and 14.2 1/4 @ 97.xx mph. Something just doesn't add up. To get that time after that 60' is incomprehensible...
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I hate to go though this again with you, but that is the funkiest looking 14.2 time slip I have ever seen. #'s just don't add up. I ran in the 14.1-14.3 range probably 40 different times and know what a time slip from a bolt on maxima running low 14's should look like....and it is nothing like that.
After scrolling down i realize i should've read the whole thread before replying ...
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Originally Posted by SMX95
Yes, I already knew that and I keep saying it but nobody wants to listen. 95 gxe is the fastest 4th gen due to its weight and emissions. 97+ they have more emissions crap and they are re-enforced for better safety ratings. Ive heard the real wieght of a 95 GXE is about 2800-2900. I could be wrong but I heard it was.
That still can be argued because it seems that a lot of 97 whip ****. No one has even beaten my stock time yet and it's been that way for about 4 years now.
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good for you guys. Still glad i own a 1999 which maybe a tad safer... Life ownz going fast.
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