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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Cefiro headlights

What kind of modifications does it take to install Cefiro heads in my 97 Max and is it worth it?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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There are different modifications depending on if you use the 2 peice or the 1 peice. For me the updated look and the extra light out put was definately worth it. There is a write up on the install for the 1 peice. If you look in the G/D Forum its under one of the group buys for 1 peice cefiros.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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I like mine. Try doing it before a write-up was written.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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once you install the cefiros, the process cant be reversed...
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bklynzsleepy
once you install the cefiros, the process cant be reversed...
Yes it can, but it is a huge PITA>
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Yes it can, but it is a huge PITA>
Not if you bought the 2 peice version.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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dont buy the cefiros, spend extra money and do a retro. better light output, better looking. My 2cents.

If you do a retro hit me up i can get you some decent prices on parts. Maxgtr2000 does the work and he is highly recommended, he is doing mine.

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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if you do decide to go w/ cefiro's go with the one piece in my opinion. Stock headlights are 2 piece and why pay the extra dough for another set of 2 piece headlights.
Also, if you read the DIY youll notice that you will basically have to cut brackets off, enlarge holes etc so think carefully about whether or not you plan on selling the car in thefuture because making it stock again will be difficult if not impossible
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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yeah light output sucks on the cefiro 1 piece
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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i paid little over 200 for my headlights and they are not even cefiro but i love how it looks and fits perfect.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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where do you get the 2 piece? And do the corners on the 2 piece fit better?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Is the light output with the one piece Cefiros better than stock, either the 9004 or 9007?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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my mom has them and the beam pattern is horrible on them. output is about the same as a 9004.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Anyone have pics of a red maxima with different headlights then stock??? do they make projector headlights for our cars?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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I think the output is worlds better. The one piece look seems mean!

The light output will suck if you did not get OEM. Mine was on the first boat that was ordered. Ange made sure to get us OEM housings.
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Originally Posted by tikiboom
if you do decide to go w/ cefiro's go with the one piece in my opinion. Stock headlights are 2 piece and why pay the extra dough for another set of 2 piece headlights.
Also, if you read the DIY youll notice that you will basically have to cut brackets off, enlarge holes etc so think carefully about whether or not you plan on selling the car in thefuture because making it stock again will be difficult if not impossible
Have you even seen the 2 peice version? Probably not. They are loads different then the one peice version. They require much much less fabrication to fit. This means its quite easy to return them to stock. The light out put is better, the headlights them self look better. Please if you dont know what you are talking about then dont post up.



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Originally Posted by Black Maxima
Is the light output with the one piece Cefiros better than stock, either the 9004 or 9007?
The out up is night and day different. H4 owns 9004 & 9007
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hollaatchaboi
where do you get the 2 piece? And do the corners on the 2 piece fit better?
Look in the 4th gen f/s forums. There is a guy selling them. The corners have the same fitment issues as the 1 peice.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubbya
Have you even seen the 2 peice version? Probably not. They are loads different then the one peice version. They require much much less fabrication to fit. This means its quite easy to return them to stock. The light out put is better, the headlights them self look better. Please if you dont know what you are talking about then dont post up.
Dont know how light output from the one piece compares to light ouput from the two piece. If you go to the trouble of putting cefiros in it will be to look different, to stand out from other maximas not for the H4 bulbs (might as well do the 9007 conversion on the stock headlights then). I was talking from a purely looks point of view and although yours look pretty good the whole two piece thing looks too stock for MY tastes. And if you read my post that was MY opinion, i wasnt talking for everyone and its clear you have an opposing point of view but theres no need to be a d1ck about it.
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I wasnt being a d!ck about it, you just posted up some questionable facts. The 9007 in the stock head light still dosnt compair to the H4 in the cefiro. There is a guy here in town with the 9007 conversion and my lights are still much brighter than his. IMO and just about everyone elses opinion that has seen my setup they look nothing like stock. The glass is different. The side lights are totally different, they come prewired with city lights, they came smoked/ae'd.

Here is a compairision:

Stock:



2 peice cefiro:

Old Feb 8, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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OE H4 "Nissan" Cefiro (at least one piece) light output is much better than stock 9004 (glass or plastic). "aftermarket" Cefiros have had problems AFAIK.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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If you go to the trouble of putting cefiros in it will be to look different, to stand out from other maximas not for the H4 bulbs
Good call.. To me if i am going to pay that much for headlights and also have to do any modification for fitment then i would get the 1 piece.. To me no one would know you have Cefiros, with the two-pieces.. They look just like the AE version of the stock headlights.. I like to stand away from the crowd, to be different.. and theres alot of ppl who have AE headlights.. and to me the 2 piece/AE dont set you apart that much..

Dubbya - talk about posting up some questionable facts.. Do you have the one piece or have you ever had them before? Probably not.. because it just doesnt seem logical that the two piece cefiros have better light output since they supposedly house the same bulbs as the one-piece.. but dont get all defensive because he stated his opinion.. the beam pattern/light output is awesome with the one pieces.. Compared to stock these are 3 times better.. i get compliments all the time about how bright they are.. So please dont mix up facts with opinions..

I mean how could you not like this!! (below) Haha..
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 97Maximus

Dubbya - talk about posting up some questionable facts.. Do you have the one piece or have you ever had them before? Probably not.. because it just doesnt seem logical that the two piece cefiros have better light output since they supposedly house the same bulbs as the one-piece.. but dont get all defensive because he stated his opinion.. the beam pattern/light output is awesome with the one pieces.. Compared to stock these are 3 times better.. i get compliments all the time about how bright they are.. So please dont mix up facts with opinions..
Never once did I say there was any difference in the light out put of the one peice cefiros and the 2 peice cefiros. Its the same bulb and the same reflector. Why would it be different.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubbya
Have you even seen the 2 peice version? Probably not. They are loads different then the one peice version. They require much much less fabrication to fit. This means its quite easy to return them to stock. The light out put is better, the headlights them self look better. Please if you dont know what you are talking about then dont post up.
I could see how you confused this with me bashing the 1 peice. I wasnt comparing the part in bold to a one peice cefiro, but to the stock head lights. I suppose I just wasnt clear enough.
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I mean how could you not like this!! (below) Haha..
Well, They are plastic (mine are glass so there wont be any yellowing or fogging), there are lines in the plastic (mine are completly clear), the corners have a reflector in them (mine dont). Mine required much less modification. Dont get me wrong I still like the way yours look, but there are some minor differences between the 2 that swayed me to the 2 peice version.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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yeah it was kinda deceiving.. i see what youre talkin about now.. i agree either cefiro is going to be loads better than stock..

btw.. what kind of headlight bulbs are you running?? and are those halogens or leds in the city lights and corners??
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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personal preference.. i thought the same thing about the reflector in the corners.. but you cant tell any difference at night.. it really actually evenly dispenses the light..
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I am using Silverstars for the H4 and a 194 (4 Led). The city lights look awsome at dusk. I havent been able to capture a good picture yet, but here is an attempt.



The lights are over exposed and the car is under exposed. Its been too long since I have been into photography.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 97Maximus
personal preference.. i thought the same thing about the reflector in the corners.. but you cant tell any difference at night.. it really actually evenly dispenses the light..
In mine there is just a clear plastic shroud that goes around the bulb itself. Kind of hard to explain. I will see if I have a pic of it.

Looks like it doesnt show up well in the pic because of the way the lens is diffused.

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yeah im running 4led 194's (white tho).. what about the corners? leds also??im running the LED 1157's (amber).. i have to agree they look awesome at dusk.. i have yet to get a good pic tho.. i need to take the time to sometime.. see you dont like my reflectors in the corners.. and i dont like the lines in your corners.. personal preference.. thats why you have the 2-piece and i have the 1-piece..
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Dubbya-Once you turn on your lights do the city lights turn off, or do they stay on? Because if they stay on wouldnt it create an orange look to the lights?
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im sure he probably just hooked up the city lights to his corners like i did.. that is why i went with the White Led's for the city lights..
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You can just use a relay like I did to have the citylights turned off with the headlights turned on.
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Dubbya-Once you turn on your lights do the city lights turn off, or do they stay on? Because if they stay on wouldnt it create an orange look to the lights?
I went super ninja style. I wired them into the corner lights then wired a switch in the cabin so I can turn just the city lights off when I have the head lights on.
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I went super ninja style. I wired them into the corner lights then wired a switch in the cabin so I can turn just the city lights off when I have the head lights on.
You are a super ninja!
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You are a super ninja!
dont you have some bunnies to play with?
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
dont buy the cefiros, spend extra money and do a retro. better light output, better looking. My 2cents.

If you do a retro hit me up i can get you some decent prices on parts. Maxgtr2000 does the work and he is highly recommended, he is doing mine.

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Or you can buy Cefiros and retrofit some projectors into them
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Or you can buy Cefiros and retrofit some projectors into them
I would do that, but the S/C piping gets in the way.

Warner, they're in my hands right now.
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