spraying pure oxygen...??
02-18-2006, 10:58 AM
#1
spraying pure oxygen...??
ok this might sound stupid but has anyone ever heard of spraying pure oxygen like you would nitrous....
ok since oxygen helps for bigger explosion with gas wouldnt you think if you sprayed pure oxygen into the intake it would create more hp since it would create a bigger explosion inside the motor...??
thoughts....
take it easy on the
ok since oxygen helps for bigger explosion with gas wouldnt you think if you sprayed pure oxygen into the intake it would create more hp since it would create a bigger explosion inside the motor...??
thoughts....
take it easy on the
02-18-2006, 11:02 AM
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to be quite honest, I have never thought of this. There has to be a good reason that I can't think of at the moment, as to why they don't do this. Nitrous is an oxidizer, and probably has more of an effect per unit volume than pure oxygen would. You can also get nitrous to be alot colder, and would also help out.
02-18-2006, 11:29 AM
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They have Liquid Oxygen, but its probably too expensive to do anything with practically. I used to work at an o2 and LOX filling plant, but i dont have connections there anymore. Im sure it really could work, even if its just sprayed on a radiator or intercooler.
02-18-2006, 11:33 AM
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flame away! Also you should have posted this in the nitrous section.
You are not the first one to ask. The problem is if one were to do this, it would burn as hot as a torch and melt components. The nitrogen helps buffer the burning. The atmoshere is composed of ~78% nitrogen and ~20% oxegen. Hence, N2O is like injecting liquid atmosphere.
You are not the first one to ask. The problem is if one were to do this, it would burn as hot as a torch and melt components. The nitrogen helps buffer the burning. The atmoshere is composed of ~78% nitrogen and ~20% oxegen. Hence, N2O is like injecting liquid atmosphere.
02-18-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sonicrunch
flame away! Also you should have posted this in the nitrous section.
You are not the first one to ask. The problem is if one were to do this, it would burn as hot as a torch and melt components. The nitrogen helps buffer the burning. The atmoshere is composed of ~78% nitrogen and ~20% oxegen. Hence, N2O is like injecting liquid atmosphere.
You are not the first one to ask. The problem is if one were to do this, it would burn as hot as a torch and melt components. The nitrogen helps buffer the burning. The atmoshere is composed of ~78% nitrogen and ~20% oxegen. Hence, N2O is like injecting liquid atmosphere.
Also, injecting oxygen would completely bollix the fuel management system and result in such a lean burn the pistons would hole and the valve seats burn up.
However there is one thing that DOES work that I have never seen mentioned: water mist injection.
02-18-2006, 01:18 PM
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I think this is a great idea and you should definately try it. Infact I heard if you mix liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen in your intake manifold it makes your car really fast, but I haven't tried it yet.
02-18-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 96customax
water mist injection? never heard of that befor..
It occurs to me that nowadays it's possible to buy electronic humidifiers - I imagine these are ultrasonic - that emit a mist of fine water vapour droplets. One of these days I'll have to buy one, adapt it to 12V operation, and try it. But with no dyno available locally, proving any gains would be rather difficult...
02-18-2006, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I think this is a great idea and you should definately try it. Infact I heard if you mix liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen in your intake manifold it makes your car really fast, but I haven't tried it yet.
LMFAO! 12345
02-18-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 96customax
ok this might sound stupid but has anyone ever heard of spraying pure oxygen like you would nitrous....
since oxygen helps for bigger explosion
since oxygen helps for bigger explosion
Seriously though N20 just has a higher percentage of oxygen than regular air, which hovers between 20-22% of oxygen, depending on whether you're in LA during rush hour or in the middle of nowhere.
Anything higher than 35-40% and sh*t goes the way of the dodo.
And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.
If you want to do something more constructive and less batsh*t crazy though, find a a way to get the coolest possible air in your engine. Cooler air is denser (or "more compressed"). I've even heard of people thinking of using A/C air into the intake or something to that effect.
Or buy a big snail and quit fuking around.
02-18-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
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Seriously though N20 just has a higher percentage of oxygen than regular air, which hovers between 20-22% of oxygen, depending on whether you're in LA during rush hour or in the middle of nowhere.
Anything higher than 35-40% and sh*t goes the way of the dodo.
And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.
If you want to do something more constructive and less batsh*t crazy though, find a a way to get the coolest possible air in your engine. Cooler air is denser (or "more compressed"). I've even heard of people thinking of using A/C air into the intake or something to that effect.
Seriously though N20 just has a higher percentage of oxygen than regular air, which hovers between 20-22% of oxygen, depending on whether you're in LA during rush hour or in the middle of nowhere.
Anything higher than 35-40% and sh*t goes the way of the dodo.
And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.
If you want to do something more constructive and less batsh*t crazy though, find a a way to get the coolest possible air in your engine. Cooler air is denser (or "more compressed"). I've even heard of people thinking of using A/C air into the intake or something to that effect.
02-18-2006, 04:42 PM
#22
Originally Posted by highoctane79
Here another thing you can try, put helium in your tires, its lighter than air so you can shave a few pounds and maybe a few seconds. Plus its funny when you squeal your tires cuz its higher pitched
02-18-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.
i do have a flux capacitator in my car for just that reason!
