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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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spraying pure oxygen...??

ok this might sound stupid but has anyone ever heard of spraying pure oxygen like you would nitrous....
ok since oxygen helps for bigger explosion with gas wouldnt you think if you sprayed pure oxygen into the intake it would create more hp since it would create a bigger explosion inside the motor...??

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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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to be quite honest, I have never thought of this. There has to be a good reason that I can't think of at the moment, as to why they don't do this. Nitrous is an oxidizer, and probably has more of an effect per unit volume than pure oxygen would. You can also get nitrous to be alot colder, and would also help out.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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They have Liquid Oxygen, but its probably too expensive to do anything with practically. I used to work at an o2 and LOX filling plant, but i dont have connections there anymore. Im sure it really could work, even if its just sprayed on a radiator or intercooler.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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flame away! Also you should have posted this in the nitrous section.


You are not the first one to ask. The problem is if one were to do this, it would burn as hot as a torch and melt components. The nitrogen helps buffer the burning. The atmoshere is composed of ~78% nitrogen and ~20% oxegen. Hence, N2O is like injecting liquid atmosphere.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sonicrunch
flame away! Also you should have posted this in the nitrous section.


You are not the first one to ask. The problem is if one were to do this, it would burn as hot as a torch and melt components. The nitrogen helps buffer the burning. The atmoshere is composed of ~78% nitrogen and ~20% oxegen. Hence, N2O is like injecting liquid atmosphere.
Great answer.
Also, injecting oxygen would completely bollix the fuel management system and result in such a lean burn the pistons would hole and the valve seats burn up.
However there is one thing that DOES work that I have never seen mentioned: water mist injection.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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water mist injection? never heard of that befor..
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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create a bigger explosion inside the motor...??

I think you've answered your own question.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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sure it works, just wear a swat bomb vest (fire/bomb resistent) VEST when trying it on...
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 96customax
water mist injection? never heard of that befor..
It acts as a buffer.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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pure oxygen would burn up everything and ur motor would turn into a molten blob. not to mention u would be driving a bomb on wheels
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I think this is a great idea and you should definately try it. Infact I heard if you mix liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen in your intake manifold it makes your car really fast, but I haven't tried it yet.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 96customax
water mist injection? never heard of that befor..
It was quite popular in England at one time, although the kits were a bit primitive. Basically a container of water with cotton wicks over which the intake air passed... have you noticed your car goes better when it's damp? The more humidity, the more power.
It occurs to me that nowadays it's possible to buy electronic humidifiers - I imagine these are ultrasonic - that emit a mist of fine water vapour droplets. One of these days I'll have to buy one, adapt it to 12V operation, and try it. But with no dyno available locally, proving any gains would be rather difficult...
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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CO2 and Nos and propane, the last is for diesel only. Pure O2, not too safe around heat and flames...big boom
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Water injection used to be utilized in fighter jet afterburners. I know the F4 Phantom used it. I don't know about now.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I think this is a great idea and you should definately try it. Infact I heard if you mix liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen in your intake manifold it makes your car really fast, but I haven't tried it yet.

LMFAO! 12345
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 96customax
ok this might sound stupid but has anyone ever heard of spraying pure oxygen like you would nitrous....
since oxygen helps for bigger explosion
Indeed it should provide a bigger explosion.

Seriously though N20 just has a higher percentage of oxygen than regular air, which hovers between 20-22% of oxygen, depending on whether you're in LA during rush hour or in the middle of nowhere.

Anything higher than 35-40% and sh*t goes the way of the dodo.

And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.

If you want to do something more constructive and less batsh*t crazy though, find a a way to get the coolest possible air in your engine. Cooler air is denser (or "more compressed"). I've even heard of people thinking of using A/C air into the intake or something to that effect.

Or buy a big snail and quit fuking around.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Here another thing you can try, put helium in your tires, its lighter than air so you can shave a few pounds and maybe a few seconds. Plus its funny when you squeal your tires cuz its higher pitched
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
BOOM

Seriously though N20 just has a higher percentage of oxygen than regular air, which hovers between 20-22% of oxygen, depending on whether you're in LA during rush hour or in the middle of nowhere.

Anything higher than 35-40% and sh*t goes the way of the dodo.

And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.

If you want to do something more constructive and less batsh*t crazy though, find a a way to get the coolest possible air in your engine. Cooler air is denser (or "more compressed"). I've even heard of people thinking of using A/C air into the intake or something to that effect.
So you suck up horsepower to power the compressor to feed the intake marginally lower air temperature? I dont think thats going to produce a significantly lower density if you use the equation to work it out.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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I just heard the A/C idea somewhere I can't remember of. I was only being half serious. There's probably a good reason nobody's doing it.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Here another thing you can try, put helium in your tires, its lighter than air so you can shave a few pounds and maybe a few seconds. Plus its funny when you squeal your tires cuz its higher pitched
I think helium, due to its small molecular weight diffuses through rubber and some metals.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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I think helium, due to its small molecular weight diffuses through rubber and some metals.
Yes I know why do u think a balloon eventually deflates. I was just being an A$$
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw

And apparently, there used to be as high as 32-33% of oxygen in the air back when Dinosaurs lived, so if you really want your ride to be stupid fast 24/7, build a time machine.

i do have a flux capacitator in my car for just that reason!
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Isn't there a CO2 system that cools the intake charge? Also can be adapted to cool an intercooler faster. At least it's cheap to refill
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Sounds like an explosive combo.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

And yes, even I have heard that soap and gas burns forever.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever and that the ants will die without a queen.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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skip the O2 and put a nuclear powered engine under the hood. As an added bonus, you'll save thousands on gas money.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever and that the ants will die without a queen.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphD6
skip the O2 and put a nuclear powered engine under the hood. As an added bonus, you'll save thousands on gas money.


No no no no that won't work....that won't work at all....
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I also heard if something sprays in your face you'll have to clean it off.
I told you that earlier today.
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I told you that earlier today.
oh yeah, your old. But your invited to my
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Bad idea. You do not want to do that.

I also heard soap and gas burns forever.



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