maxgp1029

I drive a 1997 maxima se 5 spd. The only mods i have done are cone filter, and obx racing down pipe and headers, and a stage 1 clutch. My neighbor drives an 02' jetta 1.8t, with a cold air intake. He doesn't know of any other mods because he bought the car used. Any way, we raced, i had him off the line, his 2nd gear killed mine, my third gear pulled on him but his 4th gear just pulled on me. then we raced on the highway from a 3rd gear and i tooled on him, but i swear that he should not have beat me at all right? I'm confused pissed and am wondering if something is wrong with my car why it cant beat a girls car.

DuMKuH

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I have killed '02 A4 1.8T 5speed quattro by 4-5 cars by 4th gear.

maxgp1029

What mods do you have done.. can somethin be wrong with my car? i swear my **** should be way faster

icedout

maybe its your ks....should check for codes on your car,you should be faster than that.

WielkiWaac

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it must be something wrong with your car. there is no way that jetta 1.8t kicked your a$$. check your ecu for codes, and do tune up.

Mr Willis

They're about the same HP. A4's have AWD, and they're lighter. Out of the gates?.... FUGETABODIT... A4 FTW.... my buddy has 1 and they're peppy little biotches but i can see maybe how you would pull on him in 4th gear.

talisman311

it's probably chipped...
stock they're pushing 180 roughly... add an aggressive chip and they get very high gains. 7 or 8 psi - 12 to 14 psi... + like 50-60 HP

clive

1.8T running half an atmosphere boost pressure (8 lb) = +50% power, equal to a (1.8 + 0.9)L normally aspirated motor (= 2.7L)
Which is 10% less than your 3L motor. However - I suggest it must be the weight difference - because a 6 cyl motor has LOTS more power under the curve than any 4 cyl. (My Sentra doesn't even get moving until it's passing 3,500 RPM)

maxgp1029

Whats a ks? and how do i check codes on my car?

super6

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you can check the codes at an autozone for free, if no CEL/SES light is on ur ost likely good. but u should defenatly be beating that car (especially if u have a 5spd)

99grnmaxgxe

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KS=Knock Sensor, and watch out: YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO POST THREADS LIKE THIS IN THIS SECTION!
There's a Weekend Battles section.

maxgp1029

My bad... kinda new to the org.

maxgp1029

so... whats a knock sensor and how much does it cost?

maximaintheface

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mabye hes a better driver too.

maxgp1029

LOL i doubt it.....

99grnmaxgxe

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It's all good, just letting you know so you won't get banned. A knock sensor should cost around $75 new from Ebay, you can also get some off the 4th Gen Classifieds.

Apparition

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dunno about the quatro but I kill the stock jetta 1.8T haha and yeah wrong forum budd.. check your codes an all that other good stuff.

maxgp1029

just checked the codes..... got knock sensor oat senser o2 sensor and that was it.

99grnmaxgxe

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That means you should replace the O2, it robs performance and gas mileage.

icedout

change ur o2 senors 1st that might be triggering the code for your ks.If the ks code comes back on after you change the o2 then get the ks.I believe people say a bad ks can rob up to 20hp if iam not mistaken.

maximaintheface

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imo easily 20 hp.

Toolrocks

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If your ECU threw a KS code and O2 sensor then replace both. People often say the KS code is a "ghost" code but that's not the case - it doesn't light up the engine light and can go bad without notice. A bad KS can cause the ECU to retard the timing and cost you engine performance. As for the O2 sensor, if it's an upstream one, it is directly used in controlling the air/fuel mixture and has a direct impact on engine performance. If it's an upstream O2, I'd replace both banks. If it's the downstream O2 there's only one to replace.

95mtlMAXSE

well aren't the o2 sensors ignored a WOT?? Something to do with the ecu going from closed loop to an open loop. I would still change both, but i would definatly change the ks.

maxgp1029

I dont remember if the thing said oat sensor or iat senser but i do know it said front 02 sensor and ks, so is that the front exhaust manifold o2 sensor or rear or both?.....and when installing the rear exausht manifold i had to seal shut the o2 bung on one side because the axel was in the way (F**K obx) and weld another bung on to the other side... 20hp huh?/ that will do it...

sh!tbrick

u should be burning his a$$... somethigns def wrogn bc jettas r slow as hell

1chewabacha1

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It's probably not a stock 1.8t jetta. Stock 1.8t's shouldn't be able to keep up with you like that. Unless you're a horrible driver, no offense.

Run with a stock 1.8t, he was back 6 car lengths from 2nd to 4th.

I had a run with one who had rechipped ecu, a little more boost and the bolt ons. I pulled first and second. 1.8t was pulling at the top of third and 4th just kept pulling. I lost by one car length.

Penguin1996

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either the jetta has more stuff done to it or your in desperate need of a tune up. do you also have those boat anchor 20" rims? you have a giant bangin system in your trunk? you have to take a lot of things into consideration. also, how good of a shape are your tires in?

those little bastard cars pull i raced a 2002 when i graduated high school and those cars have a good pull but nowhere near our maxima's man. once he gets to a high speed and the turbo cant spool up anymore cause of the stock set up (again if it is STOCK like he says) you should be able to take him with no governor



PS: you know what shift points are? maybe your shifting too early or too late

Radiohead

I have a GTI, and coming from a VW community, I'm not surprised a 1.8T kept up with you. Those engines have a lot of potential. All it takes is a reflashed ECU and they're a whole different car. I've seen a 1.8T with bolt-ons take on a 350Z with similar mods. The 1.8T didn't win, but it definitely gave the 350Z a run (I think the 350Z won by a fender length). However, the 1.8T is only strong in GTIs or Jettas. Put a 1.8T in an Audi with Quattro and that thing is slow as a pig.

Eitherway, I still like my Maxima more than my GTI

Apparition

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Well I've beaten GLI's but thats kinda different, probably 3-4 car lengths and the guy had perfect shifts nothing wrong, so he said. (this was not on a public street..) Just wait tell I throw in the boosted 3.5, then we'll see what happens even if they're ECU's are flashed to high heavens. Not a fair comparison, but I hate VW's minus the GLI.. anything with dubbya in it is bound to be dumb

devilz05

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IDK what you're talking about. My friend picked up an 01' Audi 1.8T and that car has some serious *****. Quit frankly I was very suprised to see how hard they pull. I would not be suprised if his Audi can keep up with my 99'. We are both driving 5spds.

96blkonblkse

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there not bad, i drove an 02-03 1.8t and they move pretty good for what they are, my maxima is faster but its still pretty impressive for a 1.8. the a4 quattro's i can imagine are slower seeing as it now has to move a lot more drivetrain the fwd jettas/gti's do.

Fr33way™

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I'll start holding my breath......now.

devilz05

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Dont be suprised if you beat out David Blaine....lol

Apparition

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.. and I'll hold my breath for when you stop being an @sshole.

Radiohead

Did it have Quattro? I test drove an Audi Quattro 1.8T before and I was NOT impressed.

devilz05

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No, it was a regular 5-spd. I would imagine that with Quattro it would be slower and if it was an automatic Quattro embarassingly slow.

MorpheusZero

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Quattros will be significantly slower than their FWD counterparts whenever they're not launched. A couple hundred extra lbs + more drivetrain loss ain't too pretty.

Radiohead

Oh, alright then. I specifically said 1.8T Quattros were slow in my original post, so I'm not surprised that your friend's Audi has some "serious *****."

devilz05

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ok, cool. That turbo certainly adds some serious torque to that car, I was very impressed. I would never buy one though, he had it for about half a year and it was almost stolen 3 times already.

NmexMAX

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