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Old 06-11-2006, 11:19 AM
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Where's my inner tie rod

This may be a stupid question, if so please flame with wit!

Where's the inner tie rod? I can see the outer tie rod in my Haynes manual but autohausaz.com sells inner and outer tie rods. Where does the inner tie rod go?
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:30 AM
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The inner tie rod is the 1/4" rod that the outer tie rod threads onto. The inner rod goes into that rubber boot and screws onto the steering rack.

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Old 06-11-2006, 11:36 AM
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Ahh! Thanks! I though that part was integral to the rack.

Is there anything that wears out on the inner tie rod? Do you think it's worth replacing? $13 ain't much but it does all add up in the end?
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If it becomes loose, replace it. Otherwise let it go. They usually last a long time.

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Old 06-11-2006, 11:45 AM
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when changing tie rods, it might require an alignment as well. but thats with out tie rods. it might not be the same for inners. replace them if you can, should save the life of the rack in the long run and you really dont want to do a rack.
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I've heard of more bad racks than tie rods.

Plus you will need an alignment if either is changed.
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Old 06-11-2006, 12:51 PM
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Hear you loud and clear on the rack. Looks like it's really hard to get to. I'm going to check for leaks now and then proceed with care.

dgeesaman: Sounds like you'd attribute looseness in the steering to the rack rather than the tie rods?
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I attribute looseness in the steering first to worn tie rods or ball joints. But any mechanic can inspect this easily, so if you still have loose steering it's quite possibly the rack.

In this whole list of possibilities, the inner tie rods are a pretty low likelihood.

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Bumping an older thread, but it's relevant.

My tires are wearing like I have toe issues, so I went and got an alignment "check" today at Firestone since I got a lifetime alignment a while ago.
Anyway, they are saying that my "inner" tie rod has play in it and it needed to be replaced, they wanted like $220 ($119 for the inner tie rod) to do this. I'm standing there like, this doesn't sound right, but could this be accurate? And if so, how hard is it to change an inner tie rod?
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:45 AM
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It's not hard at all with the proper tool to loosen it. I was unable to re-use the lock washer, but IMO it's no big deal.

Where are you in relation to Harrisburg PA? I have the tool and a couple of low-mileage inner tie rods if you're interested. I think I paid about $50/ea, so I'd sell one or both for $25 each.

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Old 08-05-2006, 11:59 AM
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Sorry for thread jacking but how in the hell do you get the inner tie rod on the passenger side out? there isn't that much space in there and i can only get a wrench in but i can't get a grip good enough to get it out.
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
It's not hard at all with the proper tool to loosen it. I was unable to re-use the lock washer, but IMO it's no big deal.

Where are you in relation to Harrisburg PA? I have the tool and a couple of low-mileage inner tie rods if you're interested. I think I paid about $50/ea, so I'd sell one or both for $25 each.

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Pittsburgh, but I'll be in West Chester next Wednesday, part of Thursday and possibly Friday. I think that's only an hour or so away. Dunno, how much does the tool cost?
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Should I just replace the inner and outer anyway?
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I went up under the car today, it looks like both tie rod boots are ripped.

That being the case, that isn't a symptom of anything other than torn boots...rigth? Since yesterday I have been researching this, and although Kevlo replaced his whole rack, woudn't firestone have been able to diagnose that while they were messing around?
If I have to do all that, it changes my plan of attack. I was starting to consider buying LCA kits with the inner and outer tie rods included, and replacing the bushings with ES, but does anyone know of anywhere to get LCA kits with ES already in them?
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It's kinda hard to diagnose a bad rack. One surefire way is to disconnect the line at the steering gear and drain it - metal flakes = bad rack. The other major thing to look for it leakage in the boots that cover the inner tie rods.

Anyway, the tool was around $50. If you're going to west chester, you'll probably pass by me - I'm at the Harrisburg West exit of the turnpike.

Installing ES bushings is a minor pita, but only because getting the old ones out is work. If you pay a shop for that part it helps a lot. But mine squeak and creak some, I might try installing zerks.

LCAs and tie rods are totally separate items. Perhaps you're thinking of the swaybar endlinks, which do attach to the LCA?
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
It's kinda hard to diagnose a bad rack. One surefire way is to disconnect the line at the steering gear and drain it - metal flakes = bad rack. The other major thing to look for it leakage in the boots that cover the inner tie rods.

Anyway, the tool was around $50. If you're going to west chester, you'll probably pass by me - I'm at the Harrisburg West exit of the turnpike.

Installing ES bushings is a minor pita, but only because getting the old ones out is work. If you pay a shop for that part it helps a lot. But mine squeak and creak some, I might try installing zerks.

LCAs and tie rods are totally separate items. Perhaps you're thinking of the swaybar endlinks, which do attach to the LCA?
Nah, I was searching through threads yesterday and found this deal from another thread.
ebay suspension parts

I have to get up there again with a better light, I just couldn't tell if anything was actually leaking when I was under there today.

Not sure if I'm driving or flying, initially my company was flying me, I offerred to drive, now since our customer has re-scheduled this twice, who knows.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:23 PM
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As of now I am driving Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, so what times are you available? PM me your number, or just respond in here.
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