mines all rusted out. what is going to happen if the theing that supports some of the weight from the engine disconnects from the support.will my engine drop??

 

Yes the motor will drop hard.
The 3 foot part is $127 from Nissan, and needs to be welded in on each side. The total job will cost about $400-$500.

Get it done

-matt

 

yea I know...I ordered the part once it comes it will be done.how much will it drop??

 

TO THE GROUND !!!! Once that peice breaks in the front, that cross member will no longer be holding the motor. The motor mounts will most likely hold up the weight, but depending on how fast your driving, and in what conditions, the motor mounts under that stress may break.

-matt

 

dammmmnnnn.have you had experience with this or known of anyone that has.I need to get this fixed asap!!!!!!can I use something to tie the crossmember to something higher in the engine bay just in case it breaks.

 

Wont the 2 side mounts hold everything up?

 

It all depends on when it breaks. If your doing 50 at 3000 rpms and it breaks, I really dont think the side mounts will hold. It it breaks while sitting in your driveway, I think youll be ok

-matt

 

Looks like it's all bolt on. Where are the welds?

 

No that the big one. They also sell the lower section that Welds on.

That peice Bolts on if say you were in an front end collision and needed the entire peice.

-matt

 

So you are saying that it costs 500 dollar to weld on the lower piece or you can buy that whole bit for under a hundred and bolt it on yourself?

I don't have any welding equipment but I am sure I can connect my amp to something and start practicing to the tune of 500 hundred bux.

 

it doesnt bolt on. it is all spot welds.

 

The parts $127 from Nissan and depending on the shop it can cost all the way up to $1000. Alot of stuff has to come off before they can cut and weld in the peice. Radiator, A/C discharged and exaporator needs to come out...its not just a simple weld job.

-matt

 

Wait. You are saying they are going to weld that bottom piece from my picture to the rest of it?

Or are you saying they would weld that whole radiator support in?

The only place where it is rusted is right at the middle where it attaches to the middle beam sort of shaped like a tongue. Doesn't look welded there.

So are you talking about welding the bottom radiator support beam to the radiator support or what?

 

Had this happen to me: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=475249 (pics near bottom of thread) but couldnt find a shop that would just weld in the little piece

I just did a temp fix (got part of the idea from Dave Sz) and I've been driving around in it fine (its holding up, but worried about it during the winter). What I did was I bought flat steel bars and drilled 2 holes in them in the center (10 cm apart just like the holes on the crossmember). I slid a 2ft long bar in the lower rad support (its hollow - 2ft long bar is a tight fit so 1.75ft would be easier) and centered it. I also bought a foot long flat steel bar to support the crossmember (and I also bought half foot & 3ft bars, but didnt use those so wasted money on them). Then I took 2 bolts & nuts and bunch of washers and connected them together (basically sandwiched the crossmember between the bar that I slide in the rad support and the foot long one that I put up the crossmember)

I'll put up a pic later tonight when I get home

Will price it out in a week or two and get it done (dont want anything to happen during the winter or if I'm going on a long trip since I dont have full coverage). I'll see what the prices are at diff shops and I'll just get it done (I might just remove/install the front bumper and lights to cut down on some labor charges)

 

Why replace the whole thing if only the lower part is bad? They come in separate pieces also: http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...=5&catalogid=2 (you just need #5)

This "lower tie bar" or "lower rad support" is bolted and welded on to your car so you need to have a shop do it for you

 

You need #5 Lower Tie Bar.

That entire peice gets cut off of your car, and then that new peice gets welded into your car.

-matt

 

does anyone know FOR SURE if this entire piece bolts onto the car, or if it is welded. i have heard different responses, and want to know for sure. thanks

 

it doesnt bolt on. the whole thing is spot welded. like matty said already you need #5. the body shop will remove the spot welds and then remove the lower pat and weld the new piece in. and get oem parts not aftermarket cause fitment will be horrible.

 

 

As my original question I just wondered if it was welded in.

Guess I will be visiting a body shop soon.

 

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These are older pics, I ended up buying a little shorter bolts so it would line up fine with the lower rad support as if it wasnt broken. The bar on the inside is 2ft long and the one on the bottom is 1ft long (it looks ugly since I sprayed a bunch of rust converter on there)