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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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HELP!: I locked up my engine

Okay long story short, i was going to work today and left my neighborhood and as i accelerated (about 1/2 throttle) about to shift into second(automatic) my car goes bang (metal clank) and shut off and i put it in neutral and coasted to a stop. The motor is locked up, i think i might have bent a valve because everything from the exterior seemed to be intact. What is the best way of seeing what the problem is. My parents think i have no idea what happened but i told them that because there was no fluids leaking out(like if i shot a rod) then it would have to be something like a valve. What should i do???
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Thats very un-common with a VQ motor....unless you were really very the pis* out of it... Have you tried cranking the motor after you stopped to see. It may have possibly been your trasmission taking a shi* on you.

Im not saying it "cant be the motor"....just unlikely.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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if the crank won't turn when started either the engine's shot or the starter is. What if you try to roll start it: push it down the road in neutral, jump in, put it in 2nd and drop the clutch. Do the wheels screech into lock?

Gotta find some way to turn the engine over to see if it's seized.

You got oil right?!?
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xlr8r
if the crank won't turn when started either the engine's shot or the starter is. What if you try to roll start it: push it down the road in neutral, jump in, put it in 2nd and drop the clutch. Do the wheels screech into lock?

Gotta find some way to turn the engine over to see if it's seized.

You got oil right?!?






first its automatic, and yes i had oil, i will check it again in the morning but in theory if i had low oil the light would come on. I think its the motor but i maybe wrong. Whats the best way to check?
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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in theory if i had low oil the light would come on.
That light isn't for oil level, it's for oil pressure.

I agree with matty.. My money's on the transmission or starter. Give the starter a good wack and then try and start it.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
That light isn't for oil level, it's for oil pressure.

I agree with matty.. My money's on the transmission or starter. Give the starter a good wack and then try and start it.

ok well if it is the starter why would the motor go clunk and die??
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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The advice on the starter was because you couldn't get it strarted, it had no relation to the car shutting off.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
That light isn't for oil level, it's for oil pressure.

I agree with matty.. My money's on the transmission or starter. Give the starter a good wack and then try and start it.

i remeber when my starter died out on me this past winter (december) on a cold dirt road at 3am lol wasnt a fun night let me tell you.
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Could be your timing chain or related part.
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by i30dvr
as i accelerated (about 1/2 throttle) about to shift into second(automatic) my car goes bang (metal clank)
theres your problem right there....you shifting an AUTOMATIC. why are so many people so stupid on this site? if u wanna shift get a damn manual or else ull f*ck ure tranny up. seems like common sense to me....
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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theres your problem right there....you shifting an AUTOMATIC. why are so many people so stupid on this site? if u wanna shift get a damn manual or else ull f*ck ure tranny up. seems like common sense to me....

Maybe he ment the tranny was about to shift itself. I would just assume he had it in D
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by willard00
theres your problem right there....you shifting an AUTOMATIC. why are so many people so stupid on this site? if u wanna shift get a damn manual or else ull f*ck ure tranny up. seems like common sense to me....

it was in D not manually shifting!.....
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by willard00
theres your problem right there....you shifting an AUTOMATIC. why are so many people so stupid on this site? if u wanna shift get a damn manual or else ull f*ck ure tranny up. seems like common sense to me....
..... tranny is shot
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nupe500
..... tranny is shot
dude i already said that i don't manually shift my car, it was in D

another question, i took my spark plugs out and if one of the pistons/valve has hit it would've hit the plug right? how can i tell. It is very odd to me that my starter was crap out then....
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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If it hit it it be pretty noticeable...

tranny took a
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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theres your problem right there....you shifting an AUTOMATIC. why are so many people so stupid on this site? if u wanna shift get a damn manual or else ull f*ck ure tranny up. seems like common sense to me....

nice logic professor
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by i30dvr
dude i already said that i don't manually shift my car, it was in D

another question, i took my spark plugs out and if one of the pistons/valve has hit it would've hit the plug right? how can i tell. It is very odd to me that my starter was crap out then....
Its definitely not your starter...starter only starts the car, doesn't really do much while driving...but it could be the engine. Try to start the car...if it starts...and doens't move its the tranny....if it doesn't start...describe the noises...but it sounds like your tranny bit the big one
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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nice logic professor

thanks, *******
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by i30dvr
it was in D not manually shifting!.....

ok..nevermind what i said then..but it still sounds like ure tranny sh*t the bed...take it to a tranny shop...they usually do free diagnosis....ide think a bent valve would still allow the engine to run, just not very effectivly.

and listen to nupe500...he had some good advice

oh and when my tranny went, my car started fine, but when i shifted into gear it just died(except i had to be in reverse, 2nd or higher gear cause i still had 1st). but basically if that happens to you its a good chance its ure tranny...are they any codes?
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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LETS ASK THIS....did u try starting it after it shut-off or u shut it off.......most cars have a safty feature if a tranny gets shifted in to reverse by accident or die the motor shuts off
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
LETS ASK THIS....did u try starting it after it shut-off or u shut it off.......most cars have a safty feature if a tranny gets shifted in to reverse by accident or die the motor shuts off
it shut off on its own, the i put into neutral to coast to a stop. I tried cranking it once. It sounds exactly like when i got water in it and it could turn over. This was with the spark plugs out though. What is my next step, take the timing cover off?
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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thats ntohign my starter went out in the middle of the races and iw as liek WTF DO I DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!HEllla tripped out and my friend comes up and says pop ur hood...im liek huh? so i did anyway ad he hits somthign w a metal stick, iM LIKE WHAT TEH **** U DOIN! and he hits it again! and im like im bout to kcik your *** ...and he goes try to start it, and it STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and ever since i never had any problems with it... =]
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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I don't see how a dead tranny would cause the motor to shut off....

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Originally Posted by i30dvr
it shut off on its own, the i put into neutral to coast to a stop. I tried cranking it once. It sounds exactly like when i got water in it and it could turn over. This was with the spark plugs out though. What is my next step, take the timing cover off?
pull the front valve cover first to see if u see any damage from there
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FSM Mike
I don't see how a dead tranny would cause the motor to shut off....
Not dead but...

Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
most cars have a safty feature if a tranny gets shifted in to reverse by accident or die the motor shuts off
The A32 does have this..
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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Should he try to reset the ECU????
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Not dead but...

The A32 does have this..
No proof no care!! Got the page number?
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I'm looking... Has to be related to the shift relay, and the same circuit controls the button which must be pressed before you get to "R" or out of "D" or "P".


For me it makes a horrendous grinding sound for ~ .0325 ms, then shuts off... and coasts.
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I'm looking... Has to be related to the shift relay, and the same circuit controls the button which must be pressed before you get to "R" or out of "D" or "P".


For me it makes a horrendous grinding sound for ~ .0325 ms, then shuts off... and coasts.
But the OP was in D the whole time. Hmmmmm...
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
I don't see how a dead tranny would cause the motor to shut off....

neither do i, now also on the starter, i don't think that would cause the engine to shut off b/c it is only engaged when starting the car unless the teeth on the sprocket some how stuff and meshed w/ the flywheel until i accelerated and pow. Now if my engine is toast, who could put a fresh one in for me. I know tilley can but everyone says he is hard to get a hold of. Now what would the price difference between putting a dek swap/stock vq/ and 3.5 swap
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Ok, since you seem to be convinced.... Halt all your worries. quote un quote..
and pull the front valve cover first to see if u see any damage from there
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drop ur tranny pan to see if there are chunks in it
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Ok, since you seem to be convinced.... Halt all your worries. quote un quote..
and pull the front valve cover first to see if u see any damage from there
ok i will, i let u know in a few minutes
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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ok front valve is off and no damage yet.....it has to be my timing chain. I was looking to take that off but it looks to be a pain in the a$$. What is the easiest way to do that
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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ok front valve is off and no damage yet.....it has to be my timing chain. I was looking to take that off but it looks to be a pain in the a$$. What is the easiest way to do that
It requires removal of the oil pans, alternator, passenger side motor mount and crank pulley to be accomplished. Not the easiest thing if you've never done this sort of thing before.

Have you tried cranking the motor over since the incident?
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
It requires removal of the oil pans, alternator, driver side motor mount and crank pulley to be accomplished. Not the easiest thing if you've never done this sort of thing before.

Have you tried cranking the motor over since the incident?
once, i am going to try to lift the car then try to turn it over by hand
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This seems to be a very expensive problem as I and and freind have both had inccidents very similar to this. First it can be your drive Timming chain,this happend to me in my Honda accord.I think it might be doubtful because our maximas chains are made to outlast the life of the car....and then theres your oil pressure, My friend and I were cruzing in his camry when his oil light came on and I told him to put oil in it and he said he would do it later, so he kept on driving 15 min. later we were on the freeway and all of a sudden the engine shut OFF IN THE CARPOOL LANE!!!! we were lucky enough to pull to the side...He got it towed to his mechanic and he said stright up your engine is seized due to low pressure and no oil so 2-3 of the pistons were metal to metal and and when it seized it broke some other stuff in there, I forgot what it was, but basically he had to get a new engine $1800. BOTH inccidents, the car just shut off like nothing while driving on the freeway...Maybe it could be something else Im not sure, but it sounds like one of these...

P.S DON'T KEEP TRYING TO START IT, THAT'LL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE
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Originally Posted by Stagnet04
This seems to be a very expensive problem as I and and freind have both had inccidents very similar to this. First it can be your drive Timming chain,this happend to me in my Honda accord.I think it might be doubtful because our maximas chains are made to outlast the life of the car....and then theres your oil pressure, My friend and I were cruzing in his camry when his oil light came on and I told him to put oil in it and he said he would do it later, so he kept on driving 15 min. later we were on the freeway and all of a sudden the engine shut OFF IN THE CARPOOL LANE!!!! we were lucky enough to pull to the side...He got it towed to his mechanic and he said stright up your engine is seized due to low pressure and no oil so 2-3 of the pistons were metal to metal and and when it seized it broke some other stuff in there, I forgot what it was, but basically he had to get a new engine $1800. BOTH inccidents, the car just shut off like nothing while driving on the freeway...Maybe it could be something else Im not sure, but it sounds like one of these...



no i have only tried to start it once so hopefully i won't do more damage than is already done

P.S DON'T KEEP TRYING TO START IT, THAT'LL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE
no i have only tried to start it once so hopefully i won't do more damage than is already done
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
I don't see how a dead tranny would cause the motor to shut off....


When my Jeeps tranny went out the motor shut down, I coasted off the road and then started it up and thought I was saved! Nope, put it in gear and went nowhere..........
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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Could be your timing chain or related part.
Im telling you. Probably timing chain or related component. Its said to outlast the car but you can buy new timing chains for a reason.



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