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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:00 AM
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how about someone that has all the torque ratings posts them here. Such as how much torque to tighten lug nuts, suspension components, strut mounts, etc. This way we know how much to torque it when working on our cars. Then hopefully someone will make this post a stickie.

Thanks
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
how about someone that has all the torque ratings posts them here. Such as how much torque to tighten lug nuts, suspension components, strut mounts, etc. This way we know how much to torque it when working on our cars. Then hopefully someone will make this post a stickie.

Thanks
That really is a great idea. You will be the first to contribute a long list of torque specifications, right?
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
That really is a great idea. You will be the first to contribute a long list of torque specifications, right?
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
That really is a great idea. You will be the first to contribute a long list of torque specifications, right?
Actually Daniel I was hoping you would do it, since you have the service manual and all
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
how about someone that has all the torque ratings posts them here. Such as how much torque to tighten lug nuts, suspension components, strut mounts, etc. This way we know how much to torque it when working on our cars. Then hopefully someone will make this post a stickie.

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Wheel Lug Nuts = 98 to 118 N-m (I set mine to 108 N-m)
Front Caliper Bolts = 22 to 32 N-m (I set mine to 26 N-m)
Spark plugs = 15 Ft-Lbs
Brake pad/Rotor Mount Bolts (The one that holds the brake pads on...can't remember name) = 80 N-m


Those are the only ones I have committed to memory....
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 11:49 AM
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More drinkin' than buyin'

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Wheel Lug Nuts = 98 to 118 N-m (I set mine to 108 N-m)
Front Caliper Bolts = 22 to 32 N-m (I set mine to 26 N-m)
Spark plugs = 15 Ft-Lbs
Brake pad/Rotor Mount Bolts (The one that holds the brake pads on...can't remember name) = 80 N-m


Those are the only ones I have committed to memory....
Bill, it seems to me that SweetSound2001 is one of those members who frequently asks for information and seldom provides any. He does a lot more drinkin' than buyin'. However, if you are sympathetic to his request you could do a search on foot-pounds OR ft-lbs OR ft-lb and find many posts which contain torque specifications. Then make a Sticky out of them... and send the bill to SweetSound2001.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:06 PM
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Re: More drinkin' than buyin'

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
Bill, it seems to me that SweetSound2001 is one of those members who frequently asks for information and seldom provides any. He does a lot more drinkin' than buyin'. However, if you are sympathetic to his request you could do a search on foot-pounds OR ft-lbs OR ft-lb and find many posts which contain torque specifications. Then make a Sticky out of them... and send the bill to SweetSound2001.

Yeah, you're right. I hadn't really contributed anything today, so I spewed out some specs that I could think of....

Honestly, that task is quite daunting and I'm not real interested in making a sticky out of it. It requires too much detail and might cause more harm than help.....
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
how about someone that has all the torque ratings posts them here. Such as how much torque to tighten lug nuts, suspension components, strut mounts, etc. This way we know how much to torque it when working on our cars. Then hopefully someone will make this post a stickie.

Thanks
SweetSound2001, you come to this forum often, looking for free advice... so here is some free advice. Buy a copy of Haynes, sit down at the keyboard, and key in all the many pages of torque specifications found in that book. Post that information on this forum. In this way you can establish your credentials as a contributing member of Maxima.Org.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:14 PM
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This question doesn't make sense. Most of the common torque specs are common sense. If you don't know, you shouldn't be attempting such work.

Any other torque values should be accompanied with a Factory Nissan Service Manual. And if you have this manual, the torque values are already in there. And if you don't have the manual, just having the torque values won't really help. What's the point of having the torque value of the bearing caps on the camshaft when you don't know how to take apart the engine to get to them? If you are taking the engine apart to this point w/o the service manaul you are either nuts or F1 mechanic.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
This question doesn't make sense. Most of the common torque specs are common sense. If you don't know, you shouldn't be attempting such work.

Any other torque values should be accompanied with a Factory Nissan Service Manual. And if you have this manual, the torque values are already in there. And if you don't have the manual, just having the torque values won't really help. What's the point of having the torque value of the bearing caps on the camshaft when you don't know how to take apart the engine to get to them? If you are taking the engine apart to this point w/o the service manaul you are either nuts or F1 mechanic.

I'm a little disappointed Jeff didn't flame me for knowing the front brake torque specs for the calipers, etc.....

The only useful ones are the ones I listed, minus the oil drain plug and top bolts on the struts for FSTB mounting....
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
SweetSound2001, you come to this forum often, looking for free advice... so here is some free advice. Buy a copy of Haynes, sit down at the keyboard, and key in all the many pages of torque specifications found in that book. Post that information on this forum. In this way you can establish your credentials as a contributing member of Maxima.Org.
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Re: More drinkin' than buyin'

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
However, if you are sympathetic to his request you could do a search on foot-pounds OR ft-lbs OR ft-lb and find many posts which contain torque specifications.
Search?!?....What's search?

Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:43 PM
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Re: More drinkin' than buyin'

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
Bill, it seems to me that SweetSound2001 is one of those members who frequently asks for information and seldom provides any. He does a lot more drinkin' than buyin'. However, if you are sympathetic to his request you could do a search on foot-pounds OR ft-lbs OR ft-lb and find many posts which contain torque specifications. Then make a Sticky out of them... and send the bill to SweetSound2001.
Actually Dan i do contribute. If you ask anyone who works on the stereo and sound deadening in their Maxima i provide them with a great deal of advice because I have a lot of knowledge on those subjects. I've also literally taken the entire interior out of my car to sound deaden it and frequently help people when theyre going through the same or similar process. If you don't beleive me just ask "Whitemax" or "Ch12i5"
The reason I asked for torque specifications is because I just purchased a torque wrench and would like to make sure my suspension and other imporant components are at the right spec. If you were trying to upgrade your speakers or maybe take out your center console, I would have no problem helping you since I've accomplished those tasks numerous times. I don't think it's fair for you to blame me and say that I do more drinkin than buyin' when you don't know the actual truth. You are the guy that probably knows more than anyone else about the mechanical operation of Maxima. That is why we turn to you with our questions and problems. I noticed that the few times that I posted questions about certain tasks I wanted to perform on my car and put your name in the subject line you never responded.

Well...I'm not going to make too long of a post here...
I just want to say be careful what you say, because you don't know how much "buyin'" I've been doing.

Anton
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:06 PM
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Re: Re: More drinkin' than buyin'

Originally posted by bill99gxe


Search?!?....What's search?

The "search" function of this site is the worst I've ever used. It is WORTHLESS.


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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:13 PM
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Sweet. Answering tech or any other questions is PURELY by choice, not obligation. Where he answers your questions or not is up to him. Whether you decide to answer his is again, up to you.

As far as if you buy more or drink more, I suppose a simple search comparing you to DBM would solve that. Honestly I don't think anyone could compare to that guy in that dept.
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Originally posted by Dave B


The "search" function of this site is the worst I've ever used. It is WORTHLESS.


Dave

Wrong. It isn't worthless. I'm sorry you are unable to use it.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:19 PM
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Anton, ne obrashai vnimaniya na etih mudakov. Dude I need you help with some stereo questions. This is where you can contribute a lot. To be short, I'm looking for a pair of nice subs and an amp to power them. Let me know what's best on the market these days and if it's possible to make some custom-fit boxes for maximas.
Anyway, if this thread gets locked and I feel it will soon, just send me a PM or an email, it's in my profile.

Thanks in advance buddy
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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Sweet. Answering tech or any other questions is PURELY by choice, not obligation.
That's true. That was not my complaint.

Where he answers your questions or not is up to him.
Also true.

Whether you decide to answer his is again, up to you.
I do not have a problem answering anyone's questions as long as I have a competent and educated answer to them. I don't complain about anyone's contribution to this forum. I simply give advice if I can and ask others for advice. I don't EXPECT anything.

As far as if you buy more or drink more, I suppose a simple search comparing you to DBM would solve that. Honestly I don't think anyone could compare to that guy in that dept.
This is not what I meant. I'm not in competition with Daniel B. Martin to reply to more technical threads. I simply give what I can and learn from what others say. He helps others A LOT with mechanical questions, however, I also help others a lot. Just so happens most of my advice is given in the Audio and Electronics forum which is where most of my expertise is. If I give advice on something it means I either have done it myself, seen someone that is knowledgeable do it or have good knowledge on that matter. These are the ways I help other members. I give what I can and so does Daniel no doubt, but that still doesn't give him a right to say what he did.

Dan: I just want to tell you that I'm not mad or anything. Just wanted to express my point of view and will gladly listen to what you have to say as well.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:46 PM
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someone put this thread on sticky.. its funny as hell
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B


The "search" function of this site is the worst I've ever used. It is WORTHLESS.


Dave
couldn't agree with ya more.....actually i prob could, so i will!!! I guess only moderators or experts really know how to use search. anyway, good idea sweetsound. i know you help ppl a lot. i have also seen the pics of you taking apart your car. if you ever want to do it for me for a discounted price let me know. haha.


ps: sorry guys, but all i do here is drinking. i don't know anything about cars!
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Points taken. I think he just meant that it's alot easier to ask for torque specs than it is to actually do the work and make a faq for it.

What if he suggested you to list all the brands and model of stereos that fit into the standard din in the maxima. Then he suggests that becuase you know so much about audio/electronics, you should be the one that should do it.




Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
Originally posted by Jeff92se


That's true. That was not my complaint.



Also true.



I do not have a problem answering anyone's questions as long as I have a competent and educated answer to them. I don't complain about anyone's contribution to this forum. I simply give advice if I can and ask others for advice. I don't EXPECT anything.



This is not what I meant. I'm not in competition with Daniel B. Martin to reply to more technical threads. I simply give what I can and learn from what others say. He helps others A LOT with mechanical questions, however, I also help others a lot. Just so happens most of my advice is given in the Audio and Electronics forum which is where most of my expertise is. If I give advice on something it means I either have done it myself, seen someone that is knowledgeable do it or have good knowledge on that matter. These are the ways I help other members. I give what I can and so does Daniel no doubt, but that still doesn't give him a right to say what he did.

Dan: I just want to tell you that I'm not mad or anything. Just wanted to express my point of view and will gladly listen to what you have to say as well.
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sup riggy

How's UMass doing? Are you going to Maxus in July?
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 02:30 PM
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Also,

Knowing how to sounded deaden your car is not as important to most.org members than maintenance and repair procedures.

Here's a torque spec for your database

Chilton's 8-9

Strut Assembly. The bolt that attaches strut assembly to the knuckle: 140 - 159 N*m (14.3 - 16.2 kg-m, 103-117 ft-lb)
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 02:34 PM
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Having a Haynes manual at your fingertips is way easier than accessing a sticky when you need it. As for printing it off on a sheet it would be nice except when you mislay it somewhere and you need it right now. IMO just spend a few bucks and buy a Haynes like I did.
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
... Dan: I just want to tell you that I'm not mad or anything. Just wanted to express my point of view and will gladly listen to what you have to say as well.
Fair enough. I concede that I seldom leave the 4Gen forum and am unaware of contributions you make to other forums. I also admit to feeling irked at owners who spend hundreds, even thousands, on audio and wheels but can't seem to free up $15 to buy a copy of Haynes. I put you in that category. Tell me if I'm wrong.
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Daniel! Getting mighty fiesty nowadays? Just don't become as jaded as Bill and I, and flame every retarded post that comes along. hehe

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
Fair enough. I concede that I seldom leave the 4Gen forum and am unaware of contributions you make to other forums. I also admit to feeling irked at owners who spend hundreds, even thousands, on audio and wheels but can't seem to free up $15 to buy a copy of Haynes. I put you in that category. Tell me if I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
Fair enough. I concede that I seldom leave the 4Gen forum and am unaware of contributions you make to other forums. I also admit to feeling irked at owners who spend hundreds, even thousands, on audio and wheels but can't seem to free up $15 to buy a copy of Haynes. I put you in that category. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Point taken...Guess it's time to visit the local Pep Boys
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Someone say my name? I don't know no stinkin' Sweetsound!!!!

Seriously, I think there are those on here that have knowlege of the engine of the Max, some have knowlege of the trannies, some with NOS or S\C, and others with Car audio. I don't think anyone should be faulted because they ask a question instead of going out and buying a manual. I would much rather talk to someone with real world knowlege of what I'm about to do, that to spend money on a book that has been proven many times to be of little or no value to different tasks, or has incorrect info. Haynes mauals fall into that description sometimes.
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Someone say my name? I don't know no stinkin' Sweetsound!!!!
OUUUUUCHHHHHHH...
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The "search" function of this site is the worst I've ever used. It is WORTHLESS.


Dave

So I just tightened the bolts as much as I could muster on the struts and FSTB. Is that bad? I didn't even think about those being torqued out to a certain amount.
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How's UMass doing? Are you going to Maxus in July?

glad its over for now man. engineering is a Bi@ch. i doubt i'll be able to make it. i hope i could go though, especially if its gona be as phat as the liberty park one!!
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glad its over for now man. engineering is a Bi@ch. i doubt i'll be able to make it. i hope i could go though, especially if its gona be as phat as the liberty park one!!
Yeah man I hear ya, I always wanted to get out of there as soon as possible for summer vacation.
You should go to Maxus, I already pre-registered, just need to make a hotel reservation.
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Yes, it's me, Ch12i5.

SWEETSOUND referred to me about the sound system installations on the Maxima. Well I just want to say, he’s helped out enormously. I’ve probably e-mailed him at least 20 times, and most of my questions have been answered. SWEETSOUND and whitemax are the only experienced ones in sound deadening…and now I can join the club .

When you sound deaden, it is a lot more than just “improving” your sound system. It’s just one of those things that you have to do in order to understand. I gained a wealth of information and experience while sound deadening. Currently, my car is totally dismantled. My front/rear seats are gone, no door panels, no inner plastic panels, center console is gone, rear deck is gone, etc. The process of removing all of this has been torturous, but with SWEETSOUND’s help, he’s prevented me from breaking or cracking anything. My point is, some people make it seem like the knowledge of the installation of audio components is worth a load of crap. But it isn't. People just have different interests, period...and we should all respect that. I don’t think people should flame SWEETSOUND in anyway...I’m not sure if I’m using the word “flame” correctly, but as I was reading this thread, this is the first time I’ve really felt a lot of tension between everyone.

It was surprising to see DBM a little on the aggressive side. I couldn’t believe it when he kinda told Anton to just “go freakin’ search for the torque settings yourself”.

About the search function…it is in no way, USELESS. But it doesn’t work as well as I would have expected it to. I searched for “Stillen Rear Sway Bar”, “Rear Sway Bar”, “RSB”, “Sway Bar”, and if I remember correctly, nothing came up at all.

When I search for members too, I can’t seem to find any. And why is the e-mail function always disabled? (oh, it's probably because i'm not logged on?)

Other than judging and recommending some products, this is the first time I’ve really stated what I feel about a subject…I hope no one will lash back at me. Oh and Anton, thanks for all of your help. I hope you realize how much easier you’ve made my life. (even though I’ve acquired a pretty amount of cuts and burns ).
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Originally posted by Whitemax
... I don't think anyone should be faulted because they ask a question instead of going out and buying a manual. ...
You are right! I agree! However, in the past year SweetSound2001 has originated 82 threads. That's not "a question" or a few questions, it is 82 questions. He says he's going to buy a manual. Good. Blessings on him.
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wow..i have only a few posts...

i didn't realize how few i had. the reason is...I got onto maxima.org right after i got my car, so I'm still in the process of learning...and I'm always afraid to give information away that could lead to something bad.

i'll try to post more though if anyone needs sound deadening help
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Daniel! Getting mighty fiesty nowadays? Just don't become as jaded as Bill and I, and flame every retarded post that comes along. hehe

I've said my piece. Now I will go back to my cubicle and be quiet for a while.
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Re: 82 threads

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
You are right! I agree! However, in the past year SweetSound2001 has originated 82 threads. That's not "a question" or a few questions, it is 82 questions. He says he's going to buy a manual. Good. Blessings on him.
Reading this I kind of lose the sense of why we are all here. I thought this board was originated for an information exchange. People who have questions come here and ask as many questions as they need. It's another story whether you wanna answer those questions or not. I don't ask a lot of questions, I always try to figure stuff out by myself, but sometimes I get lost and that's when I create a new thread hoping someone will help me. Asking questions is one of the best ways to learn something new.
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woah, where is the peace?
i never knew there was such kind of issues going on in this organization with pple not likeing other pple since they ask a lot of questions and other things... a lot of pple are in the org just to learn and to eventually give other pple advice, but we all have to learn first dont we? i am not taking sides or anything, but i dont see why are are all actng up and barking at eachother when we should all be happy and kind to eachother no matter what. we are all kind civilized pple in this org (i hope) so lets show it plz.!
plz dont be mad at me for my thoughts...
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