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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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skeptical about the venom 400..

im looking at chips online and ive found a few possibilities but im still a little skeptical about them and the one im leaning towards most is the venom 400, if anyone has a chip in there car if you could post the name of your chip and where you got it and if it was worth it.

thanks alot guys.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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Anything made by venom is absolute rubbish. Don't waste your money. If you want an ECU upgrade that actually works get a TS or JWT ECU.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Chips? I like kettle cooked the best.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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wtf ^ if you tryin to break your teeth. kettle cooked < baked
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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nobody has a chip in their car on here becasue they do absolutely nothing. But you could test out that venom 400 and tell us how it goes. Should have searched before you posted this one.


I like kettle and baked....I have to go with kettle tho
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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the only chip application that I have seen make a noticeable difference, was on a B5 Passat. It cranked the boost up to like 17psi, and it was incredible. It was even a wagon!

A JWT chip in an NA maxima is useless. You at least need FI to make it worth while with modified fuel maps, etc.

But no really, kettle cooked mesquite BBQ. Respect.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Tato Skins.......

but yea only quality ECU upgrades are JWT, TS, or E-manage Ultimate which is a piggy back computer
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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the only chip application that I have seen make a noticeable difference, was on a B5 Passat. It cranked the boost up to like 17psi, and it was incredible. It was even a wagon!

A JWT chip in an NA maxima is useless. You at least need FI to make it worth while with modified fuel maps, etc.

But no really, kettle cooked mesquite BBQ. Respect.
JWT is not useless, you think Neal would have ran a 13 N/A without one? Also Mike D made less power with the JWT ECU on his turbo I30.

Its hit or miss since they dont have the car with them so tuning can be off.
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A JWT chip in an NA maxima is useless. You at least need FI to make it worth while with modified fuel maps, etc.

Yeah hmmm, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that. It makes a marked difference on NA cars, actually far more than on many boosted cars since their timing scheme especially their program for z32 MAF and 555cc injectors is so severely neutered.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Yeah hmmm, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that. It makes a marked difference on NA cars, actually far more than on many boosted cars since their timing scheme especially their program for z32 MAF and 555cc injectors is so severely neutered.
right, but I was talking about a boosted max vs. an N/A max. Generally your timing scheme remains the same since it's the same car. I meant that the JWT chip is more usable with boost. .....unless you know someone who can program eproms for your stock ecu.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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I don't understand what you are trying to say. JWT ECUs for NA cars run significantly advanced timing while JWT ECUs for FI applications run significantly retarded timing. The timing schemes are nowhere near the same.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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so if the NA application advances timing so much, how do you get away with running 93 octane? I was unaware that timing is retarded in the FI application. Makes sense I suppose.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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93 > 91 for advanced timing...i think its prgrammed actually for 91 for cali users
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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It doesn't advance it out of the range acceptable for use with pump gas, it just advances it over what the stock timing curve is. JWTs 555cc/z32maf program has timing retarded over 14 degrees in some areas.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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cool ranch doritios are my favorite. safc-II emanage and those of that sort tune yourself.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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The SAFCII will only give u a little timing if u bump fuel pressure or use larger injectors.....and Emanage Ultimate is not for beginners......
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Safc 1 or 2, cannot adjust timing, along with the VPC/GCC, MapEcu, only thing that does adjust timing is full EMS like Aem or Motec or HKS FCON PRO, the rest are just piggy backs, allowed to adjust fuel above certain increments

i had a VPC/AFC, now im on Map Ecu, next up is Aem ems
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Originally Posted by x X CLoud X x
Safc 1 or 2, cannot adjust timing, along with the VPC/GCC, MapEcu, only thing that does adjust timing is full EMS like Aem or Motec or HKS FCON PRO, the rest are just piggy backs, allowed to adjust fuel above certain increments

i had a VPC/AFC, now im on Map Ecu, next up is Aem ems
Emanage and Emanage Ultimate both are able to change ignition timing and have their own timing alteration maps - EMBs is a delta value + or - from the stock timing values, EMUs is a direct timing map where you set the ignition timing value in deg BTDC.

You can even indirectly adjust timing with SAFC II - pulling or adding fuel via maf conditioning indirectly changes ignition timing. There are datalogs available from those who have done it with SAFC II.

I sure haven't been running 15+ pounds of boost on stock timing on 93 octane pump gas - I'm pulling timing with my emanage blue.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Yeah - good luck getting that up and running on a VQ...
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Yeah - good luck getting that up and running on a VQ...
haha, it was more of a joke. Our car has so many sensors compared to other cars....it'd be a nightmare.
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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I've heard of speed chips, many people dont have possitive feedbacks of speed chips so i kinda stay away, i say you just go ahead and get an ECU upgrade, it would do you better, and if you still lean towards a speed chip let me know how it worked out
Old May 20, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
Tato Skins.......

but yea only quality ECU upgrades are JWT, TS, or E-manage Ultimate which is a piggy back computer
Im having trouble finding one from TS or an E-manage for my 95, actually cant find one for any maxima. I could be blind, but apparently not made for the maxima at all. Did find one from JWT though... expensive, is it worth it? How many extra HP on a stock 95 with a cold air?
Old May 20, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv
Im having trouble finding one from TS or an E-manage for my 95, actually cant find one for any maxima. I could be blind, but apparently not made for the maxima at all. Did find one from JWT though... expensive, is it worth it? How many extra HP on a stock 95 with a cold air?
JWT sells them directly on their website for both auto and manual maxima's. The emanage can be used it just needs to either be spliced in or there is a member on the org that makes custom harnesses for the emanage or pretty much any ecu
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