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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Taking apart key to get immobilizer.

I want to know if i can take apart my 99 key with the chip, take it out and mount(tape?) the chip somewhere by the ignition. This way i wont have to worry about the immobilizer problems hopefully, but the biggest reason for this is that i'll be able to make cheap copies of my stock key and keep them around. Anybody know if this would be possble?
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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I don't know why anyone in their right mind would purposely bypass the immobilizer for no particularly good reason. Oh wait....


Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
I don't know why anyone in their right mind would purposely bypass the immobilizer for no particularly good reason. Oh wait....


The stupid immobilizer already left me stranded once, and from what i've read on the forum, it'll probably happen again. I don't like being towed to the dealership and paying almost a hundred bucks everytime this crap happens. That's exactly why i want to bypass it. Making copies of the key is also a big plus because i only have one key right now and the ring on it is broken.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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hmm interesting...ide like to know if this is possible as well...maybe mount it inside the housing in the back of the steering wheel? but i dont know how well it would work. it might need to line up with the ignition a certain way when the keys inserted?
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Another option would be to just get a new key made (the cheap copy you were talking about) then take the key with the Immobilizer in it and tape it, wherever it will have to go. I thought about doing this with my moms '99 Camry because there is only one key and don't want to pay $100 for a new key.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Buy the key blank online somewhere, ebay or something, for example http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Keys-Nissan-Ma...ayphotohostingbring that blank to a hardware store, have them copy it for 2 bucks. I just dont know how you would program it. I imaging its something like programing a clicker for your car but i am not at all positive about that. Good luck
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Take the original key and tape it inside the steering column to the ignition switch. Thats it. Just make the cheap copies at walmart and be done with it.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by danman700
Buy the key blank online somewhere, ebay or something, for example http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Keys-Nissan-Ma...ayphotohostingbring that blank to a hardware store, have them copy it for 2 bucks. I just dont know how you would program it. I imaging its something like programing a clicker for your car but i am not at all positive about that. Good luck
Key has to be programmed at a dealership. Big money...
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Take the original key and tape it inside the steering column to the ignition switch. Thats it. Just make the cheap copies at walmart and be done with it.
Are you positive that the key doesn't have to be lined up a certain way? I didn't even think of just mounting the whole key there, i always try to hack things up...
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Nope, I used to install remote car starters. To bypass the system a transponder is used. The key sits in the transponder box under the dash and a wire runs from the transponder up to the ignition and is placed around the ignition switch. The RF signal from the key is sent up the wire so the system thinks the key is in the ignition. Normally the system is connected with a relay to the remote starter so it only works when the remote starter is activated. That way someone wouldnt be able to break the ignition and start the car (or use a cheap copy in the lock). BUT if some one knew you had the key in the box under the dash they could steal your car any how! So in truth it wont matter how its bypassed. Ripping apart one of your $$$$ keys will work but in the long run is no the way to go. If you place the key inside the column you can take it out down the road with no issues.

If some one wants to steal the car, they will no matter if the key is chipped or not.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Oh and a very simple test to prove it works. Make a copy from Walmart and try and start the car with it. Take the OEM key and hold it near the switch and it should start. Take the OEM key away and it should stall out.

And FWIW I have torn apart a newer Nissan chipped style key. The little RF chip will come out fine, you can see it sticking out of the key. But like I said its a bad idea.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Ok thanks for the help. It seems like it would be a smarter choice against theives if i take apart the whole key though....but its my only key i have to the car, so i'll just mount it, and get one of those keys that spring open from ebay and have walmart cut it to my original key.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Stutter is right. I do the VW keys all the time. Program them for $55 if your key is in the cup holder it won't pick it up. It has to be within 1 foot aleast of the cluster, well were ever your immobilizer is acutally placed. you leave one key there and use another key it will work all day long.
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Do the 97 maximas need keys with transponders too?
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Nope. This is a 99 and up thing.
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Will the 1999-2003 keys work with a 95-98 ignition?
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by maxima985spd
Will the 1999-2003 keys work with a 95-98 ignition?
99 yes.. 00-07 will not work with a 4th gen...
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I don;t like my key it looks like a dildoh
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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If 98 and older cars don't use transponders, what does the "security" system on these maximas do?
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by s1mm01485
If 98 and older cars don't use transponders, what does the "security" system on these maximas do?
That's for the factory alarm, the transponder key & the factory alarm are 2 completely different systems. The factory alarm will only go off if some one opens the door, trunk or hood without using the key. If you want to test your factory alarm open your drivers door window, close the door and lock the door w/ the keyless remote or the key. Wait about 30 secs to a minute then reach in the window and unlock the door with your hand and then open it, your headlights should start to flash and horn honk. If it doesn't then your factory alarm is already probably bypassed. The immobilizer in the key is always working it's basically a chip (on the key) and receiver (on the ignition key cylinder) that recognizes the chip on that key to allow the car to start & run.

Hope that explains it...
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Factory alarm is FTMFL.
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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yo i upgraded to the Viper 5900 alarm/remote start factory key fob alarm just wasnt cutting it.
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Do the Viper x791, it's seriously badass.. I didn't feel the full effect until I remote started the car from across the parking lot and this old lady almost had a heart attack.
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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791 = 1/4 mile range
5900 = 1 mile range

you do that math
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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791 = 1/4 mile range
5900 = 1 mile range

you do that math
Yeah, but when you get the 791 for $250 installed with all the features its not bad.
Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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I got mine for 380 installed. I had the 791 on my old Maxima, it was dece but I like having the longer range...
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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kinda ot.. but does anyone know what the nissan part number for an 1999 Infiniti I30 key?

The loop on the key which accepts a keyring split right in the middle. grr now i might loose the key. Thats why i want the 99 i30 key, it's metal where the keyring goes.
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Yea, I want to get a new key
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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kinda ot.. but does anyone know what the nissan part number for an 1999 Infiniti I30 key?
Here ya go:

H0564-4L700
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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I"m kinda glad that idiot who tried to steal my car took a screw driver to the ignition and couldn't start the car to save his life, dumb **** smh. The dealership installed a new imobilizer and reprogrammed my key for 500 ughhhh oh well **** works now lol
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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What's the price for that?
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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lol damn to get rid of my immbolizer problems, I sold the car.
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
lol damn to get rid of my immbolizer problems, I sold the car.

negative..

Another way is get a 95-98 engine wiring and ecu..
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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just wondering... why is it that the 1999 maxima transponder is different from 2000-2003? anyway, does anyone know where i can get the key without the transponder, but has the "transponder holder" or that red slot where it should be in?
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what are the signs of a faulty immobilizer unit? And also are there any symptoms of the ignition switch going out? or when its bad does it just completely go bad?
Old Mar 2, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by adriena
what are the signs of a faulty immobilizer unit? And also are there any symptoms of the ignition switch going out? or when its bad does it just completely go bad?
The ignition switch itself commonly goes bad and it starts over time to get worse and worse where you have to jiggle the key to make it start.
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