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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Piecing Together Exhaust, suggestions needed

So I called Warpspeed today and they are out of stock for their complete 2.5" system, all they have are Y-Pipe's and Cat's

So instead I'll just piece a kit together and I just need some suggestions and what combo you think will be cheapest and perform best/well.:

Y-Pipe's and Cat's:

Budget Y-Pipe (SS): $250
Warpspeed Cat: $100

Warpspeed Y-Pipe (SS) & Cat: $350

Cat-back:

Apexi: $387
GReddy SP2: $474 (If GD is still going)


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Does a Cat-back usually include B-pipe & Resonator? and any suggestions on a good system to go with, especially for the least amount of cash heh (didn't bother to mention cattman or stillen, beyond my wallet)
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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How many threads can be posted on this stuff? Over and over and over. It's your car and your money get what you want. Cheap and best performance doesnt go together. Budget y&b with cattman muffler would be good. If not then go budget y and greddy sp2. You have a 95 so the sp2 should fit good. I recomend the budget y&b with cattman. I think many would agree.

edit: keep the stock cat. it's fine as long as it's cleaned out.
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Budget's Y is around the same price as the warpspeed. more or less they have less problems with bees in a can noise. As for the cat, you can look for any fast cat, ebay has the crappy ones in the 30$'s and i think the fairly decent ones for $80's or so. i would looking into get the Y and cat first, because the problems mainly with replacing the Y are the cat bolts so that way you can elimate that issue if your doing it yourself.
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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aftermarket cats are a waste of money. Stock cat is 2.5" already and there is no point to getting an aftermarket cat. If you even consider buying a cat for $30...come on.
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Ur lucky that warpspeed didn't have any catbacks, if u look around the forums all you hear is bad things about their b pipe. their y pipes seem to me solid tho. i'm looking for a complete exhaust system too(from y pipe to muffler) and all you get on any related threads is conflicting opinions. can anyone just tell me what to buy!!!! please, lol
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Why do you insist on being told what to spend you own money on, for your own car?! Look around on here. There are so many threads about exhaust already. They all perform near the same but you spend money on name and sound. Exhaust systems are almost all the same since they are the same sized pipes (roughly). You'll get different sounds from different setups. You guys complain about not wanting to spend money then find the cheaper products and buy them. What do you want people to tell you? "I don't want to spend a lot so what do I buy?" Buy the cheaper stuff. Budget system is good. Get a budget y&b and a cattman muffler. I already said that. If not then cheap your stock muffler, get a budget y&b (resonated or not, your call on sound) and do that. It's cheaper than the cattman y but not as nice IMO. Don't get mad at people on here for not being able to help on command. There's more to it than just saying, hey tell me what to buy....
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Just get the LSS/Budget y&b w/resonator, you'll want the resonated b
(trust me...without it sounds like ****) with your stock muffler or stock replacement! Done.



I have the LSS/Budget SS y&b-resonated w/ Ultra Fit (direct fit muffler) sounds gr8!
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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^ that is my system when i feel like getting it.
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
]How many threads can be posted on this stuff? Over and over and over. It's your car and your money get what you want. Cheap and best performance doesnt go together. Budget y&b with cattman muffler would be good. If not then go budget y and greddy sp2. You have a 95 so the sp2 should fit good. I recomend the budget y&b with cattman. I think many would agree.

edit: keep the stock cat. it's fine as long as it's cleaned out.

Why do you insist on being told what to spend you own money on, for your own car?! Look around on here. There are so many threads about exhaust already. They all perform near the same but you spend money on name and sound. Exhaust systems are almost all the same since they are the same sized pipes (roughly). You'll get different sounds from different setups. You guys complain about not wanting to spend money then find the cheaper products and buy them. What do you want people to tell you? "I don't want to spend a lot so what do I buy?" Buy the cheaper stuff. Budget system is good. Get a budget y&b and a cattman muffler. I already said that. If not then cheap your stock muffler, get a budget y&b (resonated or not, your call on sound) and do that. It's cheaper than the cattman y but not as nice IMO.
I took the liberty of redding out all the completely unnecessary comments. Other than that all very relevant information, thank you.

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Don't get mad at people on here for not being able to help on command. There's more to it than just saying, hey tell me what to buy....
One, I didn't get mad at anyone, I was merely asking for suggestions and if that's a problem for you then you didn't have to respond. Two, I didn't expect an answer on command, but you seem to think I did. And Three, I don't see anywhere in my original post that says "hey tell me what to buy", in fact I only asked for suggestions, advice, and your opinions. If it's beyond you to dispense that without the accusations, spare me.

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaPerformance

if you dont know that site. pretty popular site. just wish the author would update a little and the links. bookmark it. uhm yea im shopping/looking as well.

im looking for performance while trying to stay quiet. so the greddy sp2 and APEXi WS Catback seem to be best choices? and anyone know if the APEXi WS2 Catback is any good/better/worse?
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I think it'll be best to save for the GReddy SP2 and I'll go with Warpspeed Y and Cat. But I'm still not sure if the GReddy SP2 comes with a resonated B-pipe or not, I'm presuming it does since it is "Cat-back"
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Originally Posted by Neo Raven456
I took the liberty of redding out all the completely unnecessary comments. Other than that all very relevant information, thank you.



One, I didn't get mad at anyone, I was merely asking for suggestions and if that's a problem for you then you didn't have to respond. Two, I didn't expect an answer on command, but you seem to think I did. And Three, I don't see anywhere in my original post that says "hey tell me what to buy", in fact I only asked for suggestions, advice, and your opinions. If it's beyond you to dispense that without the accusations, spare me.

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Actually it was towards the other kid but it's ok to b!tch about it. So if you read his thread he does say "tell me what to buy." I don't care what you redded out it all needed to be said IMO. People come on here and post the same exact threads over and over. There's so many threads on exhaust you just need to look. That was the point of my post. I just don't understand if you guys want to spend money on this stuff and don't know what it is. A catback is from the cat back. It includes the b and axle back/muffler. You completely disregarded what I said about the cat too. You're wasting money on a new cat. Your's is perfectly fine as long as it's not clogged. The only point of getting a new cat is if you're going to do the entire exhaust at once on your own.
Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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greddy sp2 does come with a resonated b pipe, I have it paired w/ a budget y pipe sounds great and moves even better
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how much did the setup cost you? and have any clips?
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Actually it was towards the other kid but it's ok to b!tch about it. So if you read his thread he does say "tell me what to buy." I don't care what you redded out it all needed to be said IMO. People come on here and post the same exact threads over and over. There's so many threads on exhaust you just need to look. That was the point of my post. I just don't understand if you guys want to spend money on this stuff and don't know what it is. A catback is from the cat back. It includes the b and axle back/muffler. You completely disregarded what I said about the cat too. You're wasting money on a new cat. Your's is perfectly fine as long as it's not clogged. The only point of getting a new cat is if you're going to do the entire exhaust at once on your own.

I understand your need to vent, I was just a little perturbed, thats all. And I am going to replace the whole exhaust at once. I also looked through all the threads, but piecing the information together with it worded so many different ways with different important aspects and different needs would have been more trouble than I needed to make, and posting my own, personal question was just much easier.

It's called learning, and in any institution you'll have books and teachers. Despite the text books, despite the notes, a student may need more help piecing an answer together. The stickies and FSM are the text books, and old threads are the notes, but sometimes I (we) need just a little bit more. Is that too much to ask?
Old Feb 2, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Well I can understand the books and notes idea but what is the difference? Posting again will just get the same answers that are in the other threads. Info doesnt change. The exhaust systems are always the same since they are not new. If you have money, get a budget y, and sp2. Only get the cat if you really need to. It's a waste otherwise. If you don't have that much money get a budget y&b and keep the stock muffler till you can afford the cattman. I think those are the best options.
Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Heh unfortunately I don't even have the stock muffler :-( I bought this car as is, and it has a "Nakayama Racing" muffler. It's a pumpkin launcher, I'm actually kind glad its all breaking so I can get rid of that thing
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I had a custom made for me with warpspeed y-pipe and random technology high flow cat ( i believe that was the cat name....) with a magna flow muffler on the end, I personally love the way my car sounds, and it was cheaper then piecing it together with the stuff u are thinking of doing, i think where I saved most was when I had the custom b pipe made
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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This is exactly as I'm talking about.....http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....=1#post5499626
same exact thread posted literally 4-5 posts above yours.....nobody searches anything. They all ask the same exact questions. That's why I get annoyed.

As for the muffler, I can see how you would want to get rid of that grapefruit shooter (although my greddy sp1 muffler has the 4" output too lol). I still think that if you're willing to put down the cash, get an sp2 and a budget y. I think you should ignore the cat for now. If you do the job yourself you can take the whole system off at once so you can seperate the cat without being under the car. Or if the shop does the work, they can seperate it for you. As many places state, a high flow cat really doesnt do anything. Your cat is 2.5" which is plenty for doing an aftermarket 2.5" system. Either way, if you want to go a little cheaper get the budget and sp2, great sound, great performance. You won't be disappointed with it.
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How hard is it to do yourself? My parent's are insisting I take it to a shop, so I've been trying to get quotes from local shops I found in regionals but nobody's answering telephones or getting back to me in PM's

And I really don't want to take it to Pepboys or Midas to get it done, I'd rather have it done by a trusted shop from the org, or at least a trusted local shop.
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Btw, are stock B-Pipes resonated?
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Yes stock b-pipes are resonated. Any shop can do the work. All they need to do is bolt it up. They can't really f that up. Just find a shop with a good price but has a warranty of some sort. If you're doing the hole system it's not as hard to put up. You need to raise the car enough to be under with space but you'll only need to get the y pipe unbolted and then unhook everything else from hangers and all. Still a tedious project but you could probably do it, if you know what you're doing.
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Well I read a little about changing exhaust systems. Basically the only things that are bolted are...?

Y-Pipe to Exhaust Manifold via 8, 14mm bolts, and it's attached to the body in the middle section by 2 bolts?

Y-Pipe to Catalytic Converter

Catalytic Converter to B-Pipe

B-Pipe to Muffler

And all the rest are held on by hangers to the body?
Old Feb 4, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Apparition has the Budget ypipe/bpipe/cattman muffler set up, and i"m gonna go with that too, if u want the budget bpipe, I'm gonna get Jeff and Jody to give us a group deal on the bpipe and save us some money so if u just want to hang on for another day or so I'll be posting whether they'd give us one or not, but the chances are pretty good since we already have 15 people interested
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Originally Posted by ethnic6
Apparition has the Budget ypipe/bpipe/cattman muffler set up, and i"m gonna go with that too, if u want the budget bpipe, I'm gonna get Jeff and Jody to give us a group deal on the bpipe and save us some money so if u just want to hang on for another day or so I'll be posting whether they'd give us one or not, but the chances are pretty good since we already have 15 people interested
That wouldn't sit too much more than a Budget Y + GReddy SP2 would it?

SP2 is $500 and the Budget Y is $250

or

Cattman Muffler $300, Budget Y $250, leaving the B-pipe to cost $200 to break even.
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jody said that they were going to do another Budget Y pipe special so if u wait until they do it, then it'll be cheaper... I'll call them and confirm it and get back to u
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budget y&b with cattman will be cheaper. The deals usually run $200 per pipe. Plus cattman $300. So you'll save $50 or so.
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granted they give me a $200 deal on the Y as well =/
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