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CV Joint Boots Help Please

Old Oct 18, 2000 | 09:55 AM
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Has anyone replaced these themselves? How long did it take? Is it a pain in the ***? If you had a shop do them how long did it take and about how much? Mine are both ripped on both sides, but the kit is only 9 bucks a side. Trouble is I dont't want to take it to a shop and get ripped for labor.
I had a friend that had a Rodeo 4wd and they got her for $450 for just the boots. Now I don't know if 4wd makes it harder or takes longer. I just don't want to pay out the *** to get this done. Thanks for any help




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Old Oct 18, 2000 | 10:11 AM
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It depends on what you do-->

Replacing the whole axle w/ a rebuilt one is not that hard but just repacking and putting a new boot on is more trouble and VERY MESSY! If your mechanicly inclined, it's not hard. Rebuilt axles are about $150-$200 or so. Replacement boot kits from Nissan are about $50. Napa has them for $25 or so.

If you have a shop put rebuilt axles in, it should only cost about $300 I guess.
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 10:12 AM
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boots repair

about 95 bucks in firestone....perside...
nissan charges 150 bucks perside
for a rebuild cva, go with nissan, they charges the same...250 perside
I have never done it myself, you need a good stand or something and definately tools....
I just don't bother getting it done myself, because I don't have complete tools and stuff
by the way...You also need grease!...the special kind that don't melt in the heat
good luck
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Gumby510
Has anyone replaced these themselves? How long did it take? Is it a pain in the ***? If you had a shop do them how long did it take and about how much? Mine are both ripped on both sides, but the kit is only 9 bucks a side. Trouble is I dont't want to take it to a shop and get ripped for labor. ... ...
There are two kinds of replacement Constant Velocity joint boots: the
one-piece factory style, and the supposedly easy-to-install split boot.

Some shops refuse to install split boots because they aren't durable and a
"come-back" kills the profit in the job.

I used a split boot only once and found it to be a hassle to install. It
didn't really save much time and I won't bother with that kind again.

The labor to install a new unsplit boot is even more than replacing the axle
half-shaft assembly. If your CV joint is worn you may be better off to
replace the half-shaft with a rebuilt unit. That way you get two rebuilt
CV joints with two new rubber boots.

Replacing a boot or a half-shaft may be done by the intermediate home
mechanic. You will need:
- an assortment of ordinary hand tools including socket wrenches.
- a good floor jack and pair of jackstands.
- a socket wrench to fit the big nut on the outboard end of the axle.
- a tool to separate the tie rod end from the steering arm (on some cars).

An inexpensive "pickle fork" tie rod separator will work, but it may tear
the rubber tie-rod boot. There is also an expensive tie rod end tool (it
looks like a gear puller) which won't damage the boot. Some parts
suppliers offer a no-charge loan of special tools when you buy the parts
from them. Ask about that.

Towards the end of the job you will install the large nut on the end of the
axle. The torque spec for this nut is somewhere around 200 foot-lbs. If
you don't have a torque wrench, that's okay. Just make it as tight as you
can, and that's tight enough.
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 10:24 AM
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Well to add to these instructions-->

I would highly recommend replacing the output shaft seals on the tranny at the same time. Often when replacing the cv joints will cause the seals to leak. It's ALOT cheaper to replace them when the cvs are aready out.

Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
Originally posted by Gumby510
Has anyone replaced these themselves? How long did it take? Is it a pain in the ***? If you had a shop do them how long did it take and about how much? Mine are both ripped on both sides, but the kit is only 9 bucks a side. Trouble is I dont't want to take it to a shop and get ripped for labor. ... ...
There are two kinds of replacement Constant Velocity joint boots: the
one-piece factory style, and the supposedly easy-to-install split boot.

Some shops refuse to install split boots because they aren't durable and a
"come-back" kills the profit in the job.

I used a split boot only once and found it to be a hassle to install. It
didn't really save much time and I won't bother with that kind again.

The labor to install a new unsplit boot is even more than replacing the axle
half-shaft assembly. If your CV joint is worn you may be better off to
replace the half-shaft with a rebuilt unit. That way you get two rebuilt
CV joints with two new rubber boots.

Replacing a boot or a half-shaft may be done by the intermediate home
mechanic. You will need:
- an assortment of ordinary hand tools including socket wrenches.
- a good floor jack and pair of jackstands.
- a socket wrench to fit the big nut on the outboard end of the axle.
- a tool to separate the tie rod end from the steering arm (on some cars).

An inexpensive "pickle fork" tie rod separator will work, but it may tear
the rubber tie-rod boot. There is also an expensive tie rod end tool (it
looks like a gear puller) which won't damage the boot. Some parts
suppliers offer a no-charge loan of special tools when you buy the parts
from them. Ask about that.

Towards the end of the job you will install the large nut on the end of the
axle. The torque spec for this nut is somewhere around 200 foot-lbs. If
you don't have a torque wrench, that's okay. Just make it as tight as you
can, and that's tight enough.
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 11:06 AM
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I called Royal Tranmissions

Well I called Royal and they said its about 70 dollars a side and will take 4 hours to do. I told them I have the kit and they said cool. Thanks for all the replys guys
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Old Oct 18, 2000 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Well to add to these instructions-->

Originally posted by Jeff92se
I would highly recommend replacing the output shaft seals on the tranny at the same time. Often when replacing the cv joints will cause the seals to leak. It's ALOT cheaper to replace them when the cvs are aready out.
I have pulled axles on several makes of Front Wheel Drive cars and re-installed them ... never replaced those seals, never had a leak. However, your suggestion makes such good sense that I will do it from now on. Seems like cheap insurance.


[Edited by Daniel B. Martin on 10-18-2000 at 09:35 PM]
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 06:05 AM
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Re: Removing the right side halfshaft

Hi Jeff,

I can't get my right side halfshaft out on a Gen 3. Chilton says to pry against the bearing bracket but it's not coming out. Do the three retainer bolts need to come off first?

Thanks



Originally posted by Jeff92se
I would highly recommend replacing the output shaft seals on the tranny at the same time. Often when replacing the cv joints will cause the seals to leak. It's ALOT cheaper to replace them when the cvs are aready out.

There are two kinds of replacement Constant Velocity joint boots: the
one-piece factory style, and the supposedly easy-to-install split boot.

Some shops refuse to install split boots because they aren't durable and a
"come-back" kills the profit in the job.

I used a split boot only once and found it to be a hassle to install. It
didn't really save much time and I won't bother with that kind again.

The labor to install a new unsplit boot is even more than replacing the axle
half-shaft assembly. If your CV joint is worn you may be better off to
replace the half-shaft with a rebuilt unit. That way you get two rebuilt
CV joints with two new rubber boots.

Replacing a boot or a half-shaft may be done by the intermediate home
mechanic. You will need:
- an assortment of ordinary hand tools including socket wrenches.
- a good floor jack and pair of jackstands.
- a socket wrench to fit the big nut on the outboard end of the axle.
- a tool to separate the tie rod end from the steering arm (on some cars).

An inexpensive "pickle fork" tie rod separator will work, but it may tear
the rubber tie-rod boot. There is also an expensive tie rod end tool (it
looks like a gear puller) which won't damage the boot. Some parts
suppliers offer a no-charge loan of special tools when you buy the parts
from them. Ask about that.

Towards the end of the job you will install the large nut on the end of the
axle. The torque spec for this nut is somewhere around 200 foot-lbs. If
you don't have a torque wrench, that's okay. Just make it as tight as you
can, and that's tight enough.
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 06:08 AM
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Removing the R/S halfshaft

Hi Daniel,

I can't get my right side halfshaft out on a Gen 3. Chilton says to pry against the bearing bracket but it's not coming out. Do the three retainer bolts need to come off first or should I pry harder?

Thanks


Originally posted by Daniel B. Martin
There are two kinds of replacement Constant Velocity joint boots: the
one-piece factory style, and the supposedly easy-to-install split boot.

Some shops refuse to install split boots because they aren't durable and a
"come-back" kills the profit in the job.

I used a split boot only once and found it to be a hassle to install. It
didn't really save much time and I won't bother with that kind again.

The labor to install a new unsplit boot is even more than replacing the axle
half-shaft assembly. If your CV joint is worn you may be better off to
replace the half-shaft with a rebuilt unit. That way you get two rebuilt
CV joints with two new rubber boots.

Replacing a boot or a half-shaft may be done by the intermediate home
mechanic. You will need:
- an assortment of ordinary hand tools including socket wrenches.
- a good floor jack and pair of jackstands.
- a socket wrench to fit the big nut on the outboard end of the axle.
- a tool to separate the tie rod end from the steering arm (on some cars).

An inexpensive "pickle fork" tie rod separator will work, but it may tear
the rubber tie-rod boot. There is also an expensive tie rod end tool (it
looks like a gear puller) which won't damage the boot. Some parts
suppliers offer a no-charge loan of special tools when you buy the parts
from them. Ask about that.

Towards the end of the job you will install the large nut on the end of the
axle. The torque spec for this nut is somewhere around 200 foot-lbs. If
you don't have a torque wrench, that's okay. Just make it as tight as you
can, and that's tight enough.
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