I got rid of my stock Toyo's and put on the AVIS sports.
While they held great and performed well, they expired in
12,000 miles. I went back to the stock tire size and got
the Michelin Pilot XGT's. Yes, they squeal like a pig in
the turn, but they had better last 40,000 miles.

Hard to find ANY performance tire that will last more
than 20,000 miles, but at $600 or so a set, I cannot buy
tires every 8 months since I have a long commute to work.

Just my 2 cents...

BB

 

I hear you. Thats a large part of my problem.

SuDZ

 

tires sure are easier to pick when you are like me and live in texas and dont ever have snow, very little rain, and very few other severe road conditions

 

i have to agree with you on that one the toyo fz4 are the cheap toyo's.they are really loud and they dont handle the rain well.on dry roads they handle pretty well though or it could be cause i have 235.im geeting rid of these for maybe some yokohama avids for next summer cant keep the chrome on in the winter.loooking for some tires for the se rims i want to go with 225 55/or 50 /16 any recommendations?

 

I have two Pirelli P7000 up front and two Kuhmo Ecsta in the back. Traction is good in both dry and wet, but the Pirelli's have really low thread life. I've 0nly had them maybe 9 months and they're already running almost bald.

 

I have Nitto NT555 235/40/18 and Kumho Ecsta Supras 215/50/16. The Nittos definitely outperform the Kumhos in wet and dry, but like Redmax I live in Texas. For the money you can't beat Kumhos though. I bought them at Tirerack for $300 and they arrived 2 days later. The Nittos may perform better because of my 18" rather than 16" wheels as well.
-hype

 

What tires should I get if I live in Cali (dont need to worry much about the elements) and Im lookin for some that are pretty cheap. Any recomendations?

 

I recently purchased a set of BFGoodrich's G-Force TA KDW (thats a mouthfull!) and they have excellent dry grip. Very stiff sidewalls and they really liven up the steering. Whether in a straight line or a turn I get the impression that these tires are always serving up mega portions of grip. Wet weather traction was surprisingly good too. Luckily I was able to wet weather test on the third day I had the tires on. And on the road even in deep water these tires never broke traction. My previous set of tires were stock Bridgeston Potenza RE92's and with my last impressions of those tires I I drove the BFG's harder in the rain trying to explore their limits. They stuck very well except when I tried to power through what appeared to be a shallow standing of water on the road (@50mph) and it turned out to be a little deeper. The BFG slipped but for only a fraction of a second, not even long enough to necessitate any steering correction. 300 treadwear rating, AA traction rating, and very nice sporty tread design and sidewall.

Now the downside, tire noise. Tire noise is noticeable but thats why stereos have volume adjustments. (I must really be an enthusiast!?!) No noticeable issues with ride comfort. It may be a little stiffer than the Potenza RE 92's but it isn't noticeable enough to say its harsh. A little bonus with these tires were the free G-Tech pro giveaway that Tirerack WAS offering. Price per tire $150

 

Ok so I needed tires really bad but I didnt want to buy real expensive ones because I am getting new rims within 6 months so I went for the Phantom ZRX tires. They are Z rated tires that are wider than my stock tires (225 vs stock 215) and they feel good. In all actuality I only bought two tires so I have the wider ones in the rear of the car and the stock Goodyear Eagle RSA's in the front. Anyway, for $75 bucks a tire they seem pretty good. Anyone know anything about these tires?

 

I'll give my 2 cents with an example on the Bridgestone Turanzas. I have them in stock form (215/55/R16 H rated). I am driving down the street in the rain and some f*^%ing lady pulls out to make a u-turn across a 4 lane road without looking. I start to break and blast my horn and she just stops in the middle of the road, blocking both lanes. Naturally, going downhill in the rain under hard breaking, the tires start to skid. I let up on the breaks, hit the gas, cut the wheel and the tires grabbed perfectly. I jumped into the oncoming traffic, went around the car and jumped back into the correct lane without a scratch. About 30 seconds later I took a breath and thanked God I had bought the Turanzas. By the way, they are at 20,000 miles and should last another 20k.

 

Wish I could give you a story like that about the stock Goodyear Eagle RSA's...

 

Anyone hear or know anything about these? They are a possiblity right now.

SuDZ

 

Ive heard the Pilots are extremely good.

 

If you've heard the Pilots are good chances are you heard about Michelin Pilot Sports. I've never had XGT V4's, but they have gotten respectable reviews though. Although the XGT is nothing compared to a Pilot Sport
-hype

 

toyo ao5: they suck

toyo fz4 235/45zr17: good dry traction, good wet traction, decent wear considering hard driving. biggest problem is my set have a little road noise.

nitto nt555: they are pretty good my buddy has some and they perform pretty well. tread wear on his set is a concearn.

****to nt450: they suuuccckkk save your money they are ao5 disguised with a directional tread pattern.

by the way all of these products come from the same plant in japan. toyo is the parent company nitto is a subsidiary.

my next set of tires will be some toyo t-1s if money allows otherwise the bridgstone re730 looks real good.

my 2 cents

 

235/45ZR17 Kuhmos

 

Is anyone driving on:

Bridgestone Potenza RE950's ?
or
Dunlop Sport A2's ?

If so how do you like them?

 

And I love em,, except they are thin as hayll.

 

I have had all of the tires mentioned here.
I have rented out more than 200 of the 4th generation maxes so here are my findings. And again these are all opinions. Keep in mind -even though you may read tire surveys -(tirerack.com etc.) each car reacts differently to a set of wheels. Each car has a different structure, weight ditribution, etc.

Go with Dunlop or BFG. Bridgestone a very close 3rd.

The losers are

Nitto -feel plasticky and hard. More cars wrecked or had accidents with these fitted on the car than any other tire. Could be chance but they still dont hopld a candle to the others.

Firestone -Therrrre Grrrreat! sorry needed a laugh.

Kuhmo's - look cool -but are essentially a cheap Korean tire. Sorry

Goodyears - Too harsh of a ride and wear away like butter. Halfway through there life the tread no longer pumps out water or snow but instead give you a bumper car like ride. not good.

Yokohama - the AVS are nice- quiet...good riding tire -not as good as others on the white stuff though.

Sumitomo -good looking side wall - great water traction -wear quickly.
but not a bad deal -no snow though.

The dunlops -sp8000 -nice tire -great old technology that still surpasses much of what others on the market today. No snow traction so that's probably out for you.

THe dunlops sp5000's - very good. Nice traction -better ride quality than most. Decent in snow. Probably one of the best amoung the all seasons. Great blend of performance , beefy looking sidewall appearance, and decent treadwear life. 35,000 to 40ish depending.

Bridgestone - the RE730's the 9 series -all good. More emphasis on handling -very sharp, very sharp, but ride quality suffers compared to the dunlops. Also snow is not a good thing.

BFG - close to the dunlops in many respects -better treadwear. Slightly -only more $. Either way you probably would not be disappointed.

Once again these are only my opinions but are based from actual experience. Dunlops are the best blend of performance and security for the snow as far as you're concerned. Have fun.

 

My co-worker just ordered the A2 from Tire Rack. They should be on his 5th gen by next week. I'll let you guys know how they ride. The feedback on Tire Racks web site all say great things. We'll soon find out for ourselves.

 

Because everyone likes different stuff and everyone has tried 4,154,581,581 different tires. I think alot of it is a total gamble.

SuDZ

 

Does anybody know what the quitiest 18 inch tire on the market is.

 

I'm currently running on 17s with yokohama A520. They have awesome traction on dry road and very good on wet as well. I seem to think they're a little on the loud side. Had goodyear eagles on the stock 15s and hated them. Didn't wear good and bad traction. Have Michelin Pilot sport on the stock 15s now and believe there is no better 15 inch all season tire out there. Great traction on both wet and dry and it's extremely quiet. A little on the expensive side though but well worth the money.

 

has anyone tried the G-force tires by bfgoodrich???? right now i have road huggers ,i dunno if any of you have heard of them cuz neither did i till i bought the car. there pretty good for a cheap tire except for braking, theyre not the best.

right now i'm thinking of getting some tires and i'm not sure if i should get yokohamas, dunlops, or pirellis

 

I'm running the Dunlop Sport 8000 - VERY QUIET TIRE !!

 

just order them from Tirerack.com very fair prices, prompt shipping. I got Sumitomo HTR 4's from them, my bro just ordered a set of Yokohama T4s for his Corolla..

 

T1-s's are great
buy them you wont be dissapointed

 

UTQG ratings: dont belive them.

300 AA A vs 180 A A

according to that system the tire with the 300 treadwear and AA traction is a better tire. the truth is you dont really know.

lets use goodyear-300 AA A vs michelin 180 A A
try to understand how the tests are run. the DOT designed a testing procedure and the grades. then they let the tire manufacturers test and grade their own products. look at all the varaibles that come to mind.

how abrasive is the road surface?

how deep is the standing water during the traction test.

were the tires driven on an oval at constant speed or were they on a road course? (turning/braking)

are the rain/shoulder channels full depth or only halfway, will my wet/snow traction dissapear when the tires is half worn?

etc etc...

i am sure it is a little more complex than that but that's just a little info for my BBS bro's

 

Another Sumitomo HTR ZII here (235/45/17). Very happy with em after 20K miles. Excellent wet and dry. Good cornering traction. Perfect size upgrade from the stock 16". Would and will buy again.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/uhp.jsp

 

Pirelli P7000
245/45/16.
they're alright.

i like M/T slicks better though.
26x11.5x16

 

hey NUGE

Yokohama AVS dB 235/40ZR-18s are QUIET!!! specially designed for less noise 'dB'

 

ive got dunlop sp8000 on my stock rims... they are NICE.... excellent wet performance, sooper dry performance... the only things i have heard bad about them is -- no snow traction (i live in texas), and they wear out quickly (i think i can still get 25,000 out of them...)

dfwmax

 

Hey carnal_C30

Where did you get the info about the db level?