Fellas and ladies,
From doing a search on the forum, I've decided to get a Y-pipe to almost complete my exhaust system. But which brand? I'm looking, in order of preference, for performance then quality then price. Help and opinions? Thanks.....

 

If you already did a search, then maybe try another to find your answer.

Cattman: Best Quality, $359-$399
Warpspeed: Good Quality, $300
Budget: Non-mandrel bent, $200
Stillen: Good Quality, two piece design, ~$350

There is so much debate, some have had good and bad experiences with each company. So there is no solid answer.

 

cattman is the way to go .

 

$400 for maybe 20 horses? hmmmmm, but it's my car, so Taco Bell for 3 months it is!

 

I think cattman makes the best one. The quality is really high.

 

I have the Warpspeed with the Apex catback, and I think it is great, it is one of te newer ones with the lined flex section. The only other ones I have seen are a older Cattman, and I would prefer the Warpspeed, especailly fot the money. The Stillen, WSP, and Cattman are all good pipes, with similar power gains. The only knock I have heard on the Cattman is fitment, and with WSP is the sound. The WSP does rumble with the APEX but it sounds good to me, no "bees in the can," I think they took care of any complaints with the lined flex section, they provide good sevice also....

 

Id say go with the cattman, thats what I have on order. I think the deciding factor for me would be customer service, ive heard nothing but good things about Brian Catts, the man will work with ya any way he can. That alone would be a very big plus for the cattman pipe.

 

i would go with the stillen, i am very pleased with mine. I know three people who have had to sned their cattman y-pipes back because the flew section has gone out. The Stillen is also $100 cheaper shipped then the cattman if you buy from avalon racing.

 

FYI if you call WSP you can actually talk to the owner of the business and the guy who has been welding up y-pipes all morning. Our custom service is excellent. We used to have one of our vendors assemble our pipes. Dallas and I were not satisfied and now do it ourselves. We believe our quality is every bit as good as the "other" pipe, and is a better value. You can buy a racing collector from a steel company like Burns, but facts are facts.Independent dyno testing has proven that ours produce every bit a much H/P as other pipes, and ours are certainly stronger with no butt welds used and custom mandrel bent tubing = less total welds. Add our lined flex, custom lazer cut flanges, and excellent fit, and we have a good case for best value on the market.
Dallas and I respect your right to choose. Thankfully we have that right. We personally work hard daily to bring quality products to the Maxima crowd. Now with our shop up and running we are working on additional products for Nissan, Jeep, Toyota, Honda, and several Domestic trucks and cars.

Dan WSP

 

Are the 5th gen y-pipes on sale yet? how much $? Thanks.

 

why not get the budget, its alot cheaper, does it same thing. just not made as good.

 

Why do you think it is not made as well as the others?

SuDZ

 

Go with Cattman! Brian Catts is totally the man to work with for anything in the Maxima community. I have worked with him several times and he always does the best he can. Besides, his pipe doesn't have that ugly sound that you get from other pipes.

 

Our 5th gen y-pipes are actually on cars being tested now. They will be $299, our everyday price. We are like Walmart, we just shoot your our best price every day.No trying to find 9 other guys for a group buy. I will post when we are ready to sell, SOON. Remember there is a difference beteen mandrel and non-mandrel bent pipes, about 25% better flow. As far as I know Budget pipes are NOT mandrel bent. If I am wrong please correct me. I don't know what kinds of shop they have. Remember, 98+% of muffler shops use a crimp bender.
Also, remember we do offer a non-mandrel bent y-pipe that is as reasonable as the Budget pipe. 195 + around 12$ shipping. Comes with custom lazer cut flanges and lined flex pipe.Remember buying American products stimulates our economy. See our recently updated web site. WarSpeedPerformance.com

Dan WSP

 

Haha what a great business man. But how soon u think they will be ready for sale? Id like to have my pipe before January.

 

Well,

How bout your cat-back sytem, how much longer for the 4th gen to come out, thanks for the input.

 

Dan, did you guys dyno mandrel ben vs. non-mandrel bent yet?

 

To respond to several of the above questions.

I talked to Dallas several minutes ago. He said that we are expecting the 304SS that is being bent for the Cat-back systems any day. It is being combined with several other items to save on shipping. Once in, we will add the flanges. No set date yet, all I can say is soon.

We have not dynod the difference in y-pipes yet.I would bet that they will be off by a few h/p, with mandrel on top. We really arn't in a big hurry. In the past when dynoing and posting results, no one would believe us. When is the last time Cattman dynod his y-pipe? Several years ago. We have dynod ours on several occasions, and we include the location and number on our web site. It's a business with an actual working number. We tried to get ahold of the business on the Cattman dyno sheets, number unavailable? People just seem to need to do it on their own, then post results.A Maxima.org member recently did a head on head dyno comparison of our 4th Gen model pipe and Cattmans. Do a search. Spend more money, get less h/p and a pipe that is full of butt welds? We think our 304SS and aluminized pipes are the best bang for your hard earned dollar.

Check out our updated web site. Our new site will be up in a couple of weeks or so.

We appreciate the interest.

Dan WSP

 

I don't see how Cattman's got less power: 163.2 vs 164.
There is a factor of error in there, at least 1 or 2 hp.

Here is the Cattman / Warpspeed dyno:
http://www.geocities.com/breaux124/dyno.html

Warpspeed is in red and cattman in blue.
As you can see from the graph, warpspeed has slightly more power in the low end, whereas Cattman has slightly more power in the high end.

So performance wise, they both are pretty much the same. The price difference comes from quality.

 

 

 

I think I am going to go the Warpspeed route myself. The only thing is that I have CA- Specs on my Max. I live in the Northeast thoguh. I thought there were some differences in the Y pipes between CA and FED spec cars but after talking to Dallas through e-mail I was told there are no differences. Maybe this is the route I will go then. Has anyone one here installed the FED spec Y pipe in a CA spec Max?

SuDZ

 

I think the point is there are a lot of different options and opinions, WSP and Cattman are both good pipes, if you you want a pipe with a better known name on it buy the Cattman, it is a good pipe, id you want to save $100, and get a great pipe, get the WSP. Quality wise it looks awsome, top notch. I have seen the Stillen 2 piece, Cattman, and WSP and all look good. I have seen the WSP and Cattman in action and could tell no difference. You do the math for yourself, and the debate will go on (you can read my earlier post for my opinions if you can't read between the lines).....

 

Anyone have an answer about this for me?

SuDZ

 

Wow is it getting hot in hear I feel a flame war....