I was just curious, my friend and i are having some issues about who would win in a race. . lets call it a 1/4 mile. My stock 1995 Max GLe vs his 2001 Honda Accord v6 (w/v-tech) Who would win. We would both have auto's too. Thanx for reading and be honest. .. as much as we love and have a passion for Maxima's who would really win.

maxperformance

I'll say it before Clee gets a chance...
Neither, you will both blow up before you get to the finish line, because you didn't use the SEARCH feature..
But if you are both stock, I think you'll hand him his little H's in a plastic baggy at the end.

That's right

You know what's funny? My 1998 gxe auto is going to go up againt my friends 1998 accord 4dr v6 auto on Friday. Both are stock. Everyone is saying the Accord would win because of the v-tec. Ok, let's see some internet stats.

MSN CARPOINT has the 2001 Accord v6 at Acceleration: 0-60 mph in 7.8 sec. 1/4-mile in 15.7 sec.
That's for automatic and it doesn't mention if it is 2door or a 4door.
Other webpages i've checked have it at 15.6-15.8.


So basically,
Accord - 7.8, 15.6 (Let's put the fastest time)
Since the 95 is the fastest year for the 4th generation I think you should take him from 0-60 easily, but then his vtec is going to kick in and you'll have problems.
I know the 5th generation Maxima autos do 0-60 in about 7.7 and I think your car should have the same specs as a 5th generation. The 1/4 for the auto 5th generation is 15.6 I believe?

No idea who would win, but if I was to place money on it I would pick Accord because of the vtec. I will let you guys know what happens Friday.

Mag Date 0-60 5-60 1/4 ET @mph Model Trans Magazine Feature
--- 2nd Generation ---
MT 1/88 10.3 --- 17.8 78 88 GXE auto Nissan Maxima GXE
--- 3rd Generation ---
MT 6/89 9.8 --- 17.3 81 89 GXE auto Cressida vs. Maxima
C&D 9/91 8.0 8.7 16.3 85 91 SE 5sp Six Packs to go
MT 10/91 7.6 --- 15.9 89 92 SE 5sp Warning: Magnum on Board
C&D 11/91 6.7 7.3 15.3 91 92 SE 5sp Short Take
C&D 8/92 7.0 7.5 15.5 91 92 SE 5sp Maxima,SHO,Camry comparison
--- 4th Generation ---
C&D*11/95 8.1 8.8 16.4 85 95 GXE auto Family Four-Doors
C&D 5/95 7.7 7.9 16.1 87 95 I30t auto I30t Road Test
MT 2/95 7.6 --- 15.7 90 95 GXE auto 1995 Import Car of the Year
C&D 5/95 7.3 7.8 15.9 87 95 SE auto Romp in the Woods
Emds 7.9 --- ---- -- 97 SE auto Edmunds web site
R&T 6/94 7.4 --- 15.7 90 95 SE 5sp Road Test
AM** 8/95 6.6 --- 15.2 92 95 GXE 5sp Great Cars for $20K
C&D 1/96 6.7 7.2 15.3 92 95 SE 5sp Long Term Test, new
C&D 1/96 6.6 7.0 15.2 93 95 SE 5sp Long Term Test, 40K miles
MT** 2/95 6.6 --- 15.2 92 95 SE 5sp 1995 Import Car of the Year
MT 1/97 7.1 --- 97 SE 5sp Intrigue vs. Camry vs. Maxima
R&T 6/97 7.1 --- 15.5 91 97 SE 5sp Max/Jetta/Integra/AudiA4/Legacy
Emds 6.9 --- ---- -- 97 SE 5sp Edmunds web site
MT 12/96 6.7 --- 15.1 92 96 SMX 5sp Extreme Sedans***
C&D 6/96 6.4 6.9 15.1 92 96 SMX 5sp SMX Road Test***
MY 12/98 5.9 --- 14.4 99 98 SMXsc 5sp Stillen Supercharged SMX
--- 5th Generation ---
C&D 6/99 7.0 7.5 15.6 91 00 SE 5sp 2000 Nissan Maxima SE****
R&T 6/99 7.0 --- 15.4 00 SE 5sp 2000 Nissan Maxima SE
C&D 2/00 8.0 8.6 16.1 87 00 I30t auto Ennui and Upward (Infiniti I30t)+

It might be an even race.

Ok it is ganna be really even race between the accord and my max. . .if i put a arospeed tunable bomb muffler on my max would that make a difference? Because when i ordered it, the article said it would gave me an extra 6-8 HP boost. So what do you think would that change anything?

You shouldnt expect 6-8 HP. Expect about 2HP from the muffler...if that.

With the arospeed tunable bomb muffler with the silencer out would i beat his ***? Would this help me at al do you think?

The muffler wont make a difference at all, you wont expect much of a power boost with it,only a louder and more annoying sound thats about it...

plus less backpressure resulting in low-end power loss.

Exhaust velocity.

Man, just out-drive them! lol
to me, it'll depend on how you punch it and how long you stay in 2nd gear! when my 95 se was stock (not far from it now) i went back and forth down an expressway with a 2000 accord coupe and frankly...he barely stayed like near my back door and he had converted a 4 cylinder coupe into a dual exhaust with all these other mods on it like a cai and some weird soundin hon-duh stuff! you should take him as long as you believe in yourself my son lol good luck!

OK so am i ganna loose power if i put this arospeed tunable bomb muffler on my car? This his horrible! Because of back pressure? If i put the silencer in it says it will reduce 75% of the noise and i think it would put som back pressure on the max. I hope im not loosing power! please let me know. And what in the world is low end? (power loss)

You might beat him off the line however once both of you hit 3rd gear. You get pulled, plain and simply. The accords 3rd gear is so much shorter so it gets to the power peak alot faster. If you really want to beat him get an ECU and Y pipe. Just hope he doesn't have headers and UNICHIP too.

how do you know that i have a lot of confidence in the max!

I don't get this. By the time your exhaust hits your pre-cat and cat, you've already met your back pressure. The muffler(after market or otherwise.) At this point if all you have is a afro bomb tunable coffee can, it negates its purpose. I don't see it making a difference good or bad, you'll just sound faster.

Maxdriver 98 said "Since the 95 is the fastest year for the 4th generation I think you should take him from 0-60 easily, but then his vtec is going to kick in and you'll have problems." The "VTEC" isn't a boosting device it allows the Honda engine have a wider power band...correct? The nissan engine has a similar quality, you don't plateau powerwise at 5k rpms.. So VTEC or not, your still in the race.
00' Accord V-6's, aren't they all automatics? So who gives a damn about 3rd gear? You'll probably be out of road before you reach the end of your 3rd automatic gear.
The HP gains that vendors offer, are under optimal conditions, which would probably include, y-pipe, B pipe, HF Cat, and your exhaust. So when the recipe is complete your looking at 6-8 for that mod.

Well I never have troubles housing the accord v6's. They are sleds.

I think you will have no problem beating him. My mom has a 2000 Accord Ex-V6. My Max pulls much harder. Also, the V-Tec is pretty much useless, I think it doens't work until your up to about 5000 or 5500 rpm or so and the car redlines at about 6400 rpm. Vtec is only useful in the high reving 4 cyl engines (ie. ITR or SIR) or at least I feel that way as I have driven a freind's ITR, it pulls hard once the vtec is engaged. Just my opinion.

u won
period end of story

Not really. I say this is a very equal match.. whoever gets the first launch, whoever can launch better, will win. bottom line. some people really need to undertsand maximas arent the fastest things on earth. A accord beat me to 80mph because he launched maybe a little bit faster and brake torqued. yes i was pulling, but a win is a win.

I almost lost to a 2-door accord. I don't know if his car was stock or what, but I was messing with him. I punched it before he did, but he was on my *** and he wasn't going away. He ended up cutting my off at around 90 and I had to hit the brakes so I did the same thing to him. Friendly, huh? I guess he got ****ed that he couldn't pass me so once I decided to slow down a little to get him next to me he decides to just come into my lane and then go back into his.

I don't know about this. My brother has a '95 V6 and I WORK him, and my friend has a 4-cylinder with intake/ecu/exhaust/headers and I still pull on him too. But one if new V6s with 200hp? That will be close...

The VTEC engages at 3500rpm in the V6 accords. There is no doubt that your max feels faster because you have more lowend-midrange torque. I can garantee that the accord pulls faster after 5000rpm than the maxima does. If someone disabled the VTEC in a 98+ V6 accord they would be 17 sec cars.

hmm really? Always thought vtec engages at about 5000 rpm. I guess I'm wrong.

Yup, your right. Just checked on the Honda forums. Peope say that the 4 cyls engage at about 5500 rpm but the v6 at 3500 rpm.

Well its like this my friend. If he got a 5-speed then u might not win but if he doesnt and since both are u are stock then u will beat he provided that he doesnt no how to gear up and down which is somthing that your car cant do.

WTF?

4 cyl accords...if you can't beat them in your stock Maxima--you need to buy a VW, you're giving us a bad name.
6 cyl, when did they start coming with 5 speed manuals?

hahaha, they never did... I think he is just trying to flame.

IMHO, auto vs. auto... its all comes down to who can mash the pedal the fastest.

well on my Accord VTEC kicks in at 45K so im guessing that its the same on the V6 cause they both redline at the same point. My finally opion is this. If the V6 has a quicker 0-60 and 1/4 time than the 4 cyl, and the 4 cyl isnt really slow off the lot then he is going to have u because there isnt a real big difference between the the 0-60 between the 2 cars so even if u do launch quicker he will can u and when his VTEC kicks in he will pull on you and once u hit 120 he will leave u. But when u add some mods to your car and he cant add anything but a cai and exhaust system, Im sure u will beat him.

Wow this is ganna be one hel of a close and competitave race. I honestly dont know whos ganna win this one. But thanx for all your feedback and help please keep it up!

maxperformance

Will you please stop posting like a moron? Get your facts straight. The cars have almost identical power, the maxima wieghs a little less, and the maxima has more torque. I've never driven an auto maxima, but my stepmom has an 2001 Accord V6, and its slow as hell above 100 mph. And as for "once you hit 120 he will leave u" look at the top speeds of the 2 cars, the maxima has the higher top speed moron. The accord isn't going to be "leaving" the maxima, and the maxima isnt going to "leave" the accord. Its going to be close, both are slow cars.

You assume VTEC engages at 45K... first of all 45K is an impossible RPM for any car engine to hit, so I'll just assume you can't type worth crap and you mean 4.5K. Second, look at the other posts in the thread, VTEC in the V6 accord engages at 3.5K... its written in 2 different posts in this thread. 3rd, you are a moron.

LOL!!!

Another auto vs. auto race? *yawn*...wake me up when its over.

Don't forget to factor in the weight of the groceries in the trunks

I think it's funny when people get all upset about other peoples posts... Does it really matter who will win? The fact is that the race is probably over, and your just tuning in on the fact that someone made a typo?
Who hear is an Honda Performance Representative? No one, so you can make fun of people all you want, but when you retort someones post with facts such as ---you look like the bigger bannana head because you just put all of your trust in another "moron" post.
So before you get all hot headed, why don't you go to a reputable source for your information before you post and before you go making remarks towards someone elses posts...MORON.

Nealoc187--Don't hate me because I'm right...and don't think that I'm singling you out... I'm an equal oppurtinity hater