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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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CAI vs Short Ram?....

I KNOW I KNOW another intake thread!!!!

I know this will make alot of people mad at me but i have searched and cannot get a clear anwser....i dont really wanna hear that the stock intake box is better even though i know it probably is...but whats better and what brand makes the best/cheapest one...i always hear dont buy injen?

please help and thank you!!!
Old May 17, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Stock box is better! j/k no, really, keep it stock.
Old May 17, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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People say don't get Injen? Why?
Old May 17, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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i guess because its not worth the money?
Old May 17, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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short ram. just get an ebay kit, still works the same and the sound will be great. thats all there is to it.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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JWT POP
i thought u were on the stock airbox side??
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Second paragraph:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...1&postcount=53

I agree with this:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...2&postcount=58
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Im gonna add what I was always under the impression of. Im not stating to be 100% correct tho, this is just what Ive heard and believed, so if I need to be corrected, please do but hold the flaming.

Short ram intakes add power in the lower to mid range rpms but decrease high end power. CAI decrease your low and midrange power but add it up top. Stock intakes are just a simple balance between the two, giving even average power across the band. So they each have their advantages and disadvantages, its just a matter of how/where you want the power.

I prefer the low end power of the short ram cause just about every other mod adds high end power and I do 90% of my driving below 3000rpms.

If this is all wrong, feel free to correct me.
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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hmm...i would say if you want to actually find out what gains there are...dyno your car like it is, then put the intake on, dyno again....(its not that easy to find a dyno...but you will know for sure, lol)
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Short ram intakes add power in the lower to mid range rpms but decrease high end power. CAI decrease your low and midrange power but add it up top. Stock intakes are just a simple balance between the two, giving even average power across the band. So they each have their advantages and disadvantages, its just a matter of how/where you want the power.
Multiply what you said (^-1)
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Multiply what you said (^-1)
So I had it backwards?

I thought it was similar to an intake manifold...longer air path=high end power, shorter air path=low end.
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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It is, and even that thought you have reversed.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
It is, and even that thought you have reversed.
...my whole world has been flipped

my next intake is going to be a turbo ...then I will no longer care about any other intake.
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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wow, a civilized intake thread, lol.

i've switched back and forth between stock, short ram, and cai within the past month or so and noticed nothing really significant but i did like the cai the best, so im sticking with the PR style cai.
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PR Style CAI w/ stock resonator, and POP on the end, FTW?
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CAI or stock, IMO.
Old May 17, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Has anyone ever tried mixing the 2?

I was thinking of a Short ram with a CAI attached. Kinda like a Y pipe shape. also I would leave in the stock snorkel to direct cold air to the short ram.

Am I thinking too much?

let me know what you think
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i like my real CAI!



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I prefer the deep sound of the short ram. A friend of mine had bought a weapon _r, but took the head off it and replaced it with a K&N. I never really rode in a car with a CAI but heard a couple from standing outside of it.
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Originally Posted by Shoto925
Has anyone ever tried mixing the 2?

I was thinking of a Short ram with a CAI attached. Kinda like a Y pipe shape. also I would leave in the stock snorkel to direct cold air to the short ram.

Am I thinking too much?

let me know what you think
An incredible waste of time and fabrication for absolutely no gain.
Old May 17, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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i have had the Injen CAI after about a year and a half and I enjoy the sound just as much as the first day i got it. if i had to do it again, i would definitely spend much less on an offbrand being that the only real difference in brands is length of pipe, piping finish (chrome, black, or colors), and perhaps the biggest difference in price: the name. aftermarket intakes, in accordance with dyno results, provide little to no gains, but it is the sound and thought of having that "conversation piece" under your hood that makes you "feel" little to moderate gains. as far as low/end high/end power goes, i believe all intakes give about the same results. the main issue to consider when purchasing an aftermarket intake, which i personally like for the sound and the extra space in your engine bay, is the price. don't pay more than you have to. good luck.

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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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can anyone show me show good short ram intakes to get...and then ill just put a k and n filter on it
Old May 17, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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yeah i like my short ram, it screams up top. but the power drops off hard up there soWTF.
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actually my CAI makes the max f-ing loud. i got pulled over for "street racing" i reved my engine up at an old hatch. and the pig said he heard my like a half a mile away. i dont know
bout that but it sounds good when you get on it.
LOL, i talked him out of the ticket!!! SWEET
Old May 17, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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1. loud a** intake=$80-$300
2. reving against a hatch=$3.69 in gas
3. talking your way out of a "street racing" ticket=priceless
Old May 18, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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CAI with K&N can add more ponies to the stable!
Old May 18, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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If everyone loves CAI so much, I have an original PLace Racing CAI for sale.I apologize, OP.
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i just used my weapon r short ram added some autozone pieces and a K&N and made my own.
Old May 18, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Short ram is great unless you got a box. Dont want to run over a puddle and mess up everything
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What is an intake?
Old May 18, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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haha lmao
Old May 18, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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okay so i just ordered the BOMZ cold intake? off ebay haha...not so sure if its short ram or cai but w.e ill work with it...now where can i get a k nd N filter for it?
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Originally Posted by KyleFort32
okay so i just ordered the BOMZ cold intake? off ebay haha...not so sure if its short ram or cai but w.e ill work with it...now where can i get a k nd N filter for it?
Same place, eBay.
Old May 19, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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about the injen, its right in the middle of the radiator and the hot tranny, so.....
when they are cold, the car hauls ***, it would spin first on my car no mater wat....but when your parts warm up, u lose power, but u still get a nice sound, but i got sick of it
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ingen spins all four my wheels even in park when weather gets subzero.
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Originally Posted by IHAVEA2KMAXIMA
ingen spins all four my wheels even in park when weather gets subzero.
i gotta try that....lol, but i went all stock again, and i have to say, i like the silence. sounds nice.
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i would jus get a ebay intake, slap on a k&n on it and call it a day
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Originally Posted by pahaf
about the injen, its right in the middle of the radiator and the hot tranny, so.....
when they are cold, the car hauls ***, it would spin first on my car no mater wat....but when your parts warm up, u lose power, but u still get a nice sound, but i got sick of it
i seem to hear "got sick of it" a lot in reference to aftermarket intakes. people inevitably return to stock.
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i seem to hear "got sick of it" a lot in reference to aftermarket intakes. people inevitably return to stock.

well it sounds nice when your pushing your car, but when you drive normally, it still screrams most of the time....
i dont know if anybody bought the ebay intake like me, but it sounded like a 350z after installing it...pretty nice, but annoying

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOMZ-...spagenameZWDVW



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