R34 HID Conversion
Why? I own R34 headlights, I know first hand how bad the output is, especially with HID's, and I know what the glare looks like.
My headlights:
My projectors:
I tend not to speak unless I know something about the subject I'm refering to....
My headlights:
My projectors:
I tend not to speak unless I know something about the subject I'm refering to....
I agree with you because i have the r34 with HID ( IT SUCKS ) My stock headlamp with HID has more lighting on the road at night than the r34 with HID.
heres what I got going into my r34's, J30 dual projectors. I know they arent as nice as the TSX or TL's but I wanted dual projectors.
here is someone elses retrofit on the rx7 forums:
here is someone elses retrofit on the rx7 forums:
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Last edited by AndrewR2442; Jul 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM.
Never driving a car for an extended period of time that isn't equipped with HID projectors. I love mine so much. Best investment I ever made.
Read the thread, those pics are from when he used spacers to move the bulbs back causing a little narrower output. I agree they are narrower than good projectors but I got these cheap from a junkyard. I not too into the functionality, I would do it more just for the looks. 
after all ive been using standard r34s for 5 months now.
These projectors are projectors on a budget but still better than anything stock.
after all ive been using standard r34s for 5 months now.These projectors are projectors on a budget but still better than anything stock.
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How come they dont sell r34s with projectors already in them like they sell headlights for hondas, fords, mitsubishis, etc etc?? We should think of talking to a sponsor or somebody in group deals in testing sales for projector headlights. i bet they would fly off the shelf...
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If you dont have projectors than HID's are pointless. Unless the housing was designed for them. Also are you sure your body kits output is not horrid? Just my .02
How come they dont sell r34s with projectors already in them like they sell headlights for hondas, fords, mitsubishis, etc etc?? We should think of talking to a sponsor or somebody in group deals in testing sales for projector headlights. i bet they would fly off the shelf...
Um yea what he said. My body kit doesnt have any output almost like you dont have any input to this thread. Newb
Kzoosho is following along....
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So I've tested the 4th gen r34 headlights with 5000K HID kits on my buddies maxima and I drove on the opposite side as the -oncoming traffic- and I don't understand how you guys get "blinded" and then start to ***** about something you haven't experienced. It looked like regular headlights with a few dull-bright moments when his car hit a small bump (but that's normal for all) and it didn't blind me -AT ALL-.
NONE, ZIP, NADA, etc.
When you guys say "blind" is it because you were blinded by the r34 headlights or by some crappy 4cyl car with it's high-beams on or HID kit? You guys speak of all this stray light like you've experienced it first-hand from a maxima with r34 headlights with a 5000k-8000k HID kit driving towards you and stopping to blind you on purpose.
So before you share your -not to reliable- "facts" go see for yourself if there's BLINDING glare from the r34 style headlights for our 4th gens with an HID kit.
Those pictures above with the glare from the STOCK maxima housing and what not are worthless in this thread because the OP was asking about putting HIDs in a R34 HOUSING and about which ballasts to use. So why are you posting how bad the glare is with the stock housings? Are you proving to us that the stock housings blind oncoming traffic?
Well GEE I WONDER. Stock housings with HID kits cause extreme blindage and I would know cause I've tested it out with the stock and HIDs with my friend and, yes, they do blind oncoming traffic but not the r34 headlights. Never said there wasn't ANY stray light but it's not enough to make you say "HOLY BATMAN I HAVE TO USE ECHOLOCATION TO DRIVE CAUSE THE HID KITS ARE BLINDING ME THROUGH MY BATMOBILE WINDHSIELD"
If you don't believe me go find someone with r34 headlights with an HID kit installed and drive by them.
So please stop posting pictures of stock headlamps with hid kits with ****ty cameras because this thread isn't about stock headlamps with hid kits and the glare stock headlamps cause.
Oh and common sense alert...cameras pick up the bright circle of the light and make it look like some super glare due to it being so contrasted with the rest of the non-illuminated enviroment. So the pictures of the "glare" are worthless because what the camera sees is not what WE THE HUMANS see. Do you get it?
ps.
Notice how I emphasis on R34 headlight with HID kits. As I mention it to get it through your skulls that HID kits on r34 headlights aren't bad and don't blind the **** out of people. All it does is give you a crappy beam pattern which isn't all that bad if you know how to move your headlights sideways with some custom mounts.
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and some people don't have $500-600 laying around or the time to spend on headlight retrofits but at the same time they don't want to die because of crappy r34 beam patterns so they go on a budget and get hid kits which are now cheap and, voila, they can see at night now while driving home from work at 8pm to see his family and tell them how he steered clear of a dear because of his r34 headlights with HID kits that didn't blind the oncoming traffic on his way home.
NONE, ZIP, NADA, etc.
When you guys say "blind" is it because you were blinded by the r34 headlights or by some crappy 4cyl car with it's high-beams on or HID kit? You guys speak of all this stray light like you've experienced it first-hand from a maxima with r34 headlights with a 5000k-8000k HID kit driving towards you and stopping to blind you on purpose.
So before you share your -not to reliable- "facts" go see for yourself if there's BLINDING glare from the r34 style headlights for our 4th gens with an HID kit.
Those pictures above with the glare from the STOCK maxima housing and what not are worthless in this thread because the OP was asking about putting HIDs in a R34 HOUSING and about which ballasts to use. So why are you posting how bad the glare is with the stock housings? Are you proving to us that the stock housings blind oncoming traffic?
Well GEE I WONDER. Stock housings with HID kits cause extreme blindage and I would know cause I've tested it out with the stock and HIDs with my friend and, yes, they do blind oncoming traffic but not the r34 headlights. Never said there wasn't ANY stray light but it's not enough to make you say "HOLY BATMAN I HAVE TO USE ECHOLOCATION TO DRIVE CAUSE THE HID KITS ARE BLINDING ME THROUGH MY BATMOBILE WINDHSIELD"
If you don't believe me go find someone with r34 headlights with an HID kit installed and drive by them.
So please stop posting pictures of stock headlamps with hid kits with ****ty cameras because this thread isn't about stock headlamps with hid kits and the glare stock headlamps cause.
Oh and common sense alert...cameras pick up the bright circle of the light and make it look like some super glare due to it being so contrasted with the rest of the non-illuminated enviroment. So the pictures of the "glare" are worthless because what the camera sees is not what WE THE HUMANS see. Do you get it?
ps.
Notice how I emphasis on R34 headlight with HID kits. As I mention it to get it through your skulls that HID kits on r34 headlights aren't bad and don't blind the **** out of people. All it does is give you a crappy beam pattern which isn't all that bad if you know how to move your headlights sideways with some custom mounts.
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and some people don't have $500-600 laying around or the time to spend on headlight retrofits but at the same time they don't want to die because of crappy r34 beam patterns so they go on a budget and get hid kits which are now cheap and, voila, they can see at night now while driving home from work at 8pm to see his family and tell them how he steered clear of a dear because of his r34 headlights with HID kits that didn't blind the oncoming traffic on his way home.
Wow I LOVE THIS POST
Anyway,
I'm probably going to be getting HID Xenon 6000k And I think I'll but putting them in These Housings
Comments? Thoughts?
Wow I LOVE THIS POST
Anyway,
I'm probably going to be getting HID Xenon 6000k And I think I'll but putting them in These Housings
Comments? Thoughts?
You're beating a dead horse....
There will be glare if not projectors. Maybe one just didn't stand at the "right" position to check when he looked at hid in r34 or stock without projectors. Park the car by a wall and stand inside the glare and stare......
I have 9004 hid in stock housing. The way I did it was put on shields and aim them "crossed eyed". Not that don't I like projectors, I love them!!! I had a buddy to help me retro fit projectors in aftermarket housings, but those were gone with the max that was totaled last year.
Peace~
I have 9004 hid in stock housing. The way I did it was put on shields and aim them "crossed eyed". Not that don't I like projectors, I love them!!! I had a buddy to help me retro fit projectors in aftermarket housings, but those were gone with the max that was totaled last year.
Peace~
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-Are there any light housings made for HID's for 4th gen maximas.. that are clear looking like the r34 style or something or are there only the halogen style housings available (in which case i have to buy projectors seperate and retrofit them.. i dont understand like.. ahh lol)
-can you buy HID's with Projectors already then get them put in your r34 or whatever housing...
-can anyone recommend sites to buy projectors that are good to use with r34 or OEM Crefiros can anyone recommend like a particular good projector that can be used in an OEM Cefiro housing or r34... ?
- anyone know any sorta "homemade" retrofit jobs.. things that they have made or whatever that worked or helped a bit focus the light
-so if i was to install D2R hid bulbs into my r34 or OEM Cefiro would that be better? do they still use the regular xenon hid conversion kit? or are they a different type of kit? um does using D2R bulbs as my HID bulbs in my r34 or OEM Cerfiro, would that sort of be a half decent solution rather than buying projectors?
-would buying a Bi-Xenon kit be a better choice for use in a r34 or OEM cefiros housing? or would i still need projectors anyway
damn i hate being a noobie.
exactly ^
-can you buy HID's with Projectors already then get them put in your r34 or whatever housing...
-can anyone recommend sites to buy projectors that are good to use with r34 or OEM Crefiros can anyone recommend like a particular good projector that can be used in an OEM Cefiro housing or r34... ?
- anyone know any sorta "homemade" retrofit jobs.. things that they have made or whatever that worked or helped a bit focus the light
2. There are HID bulbs built for reflector systems (D2R) that have a shield built-in, but an external shield would do better.
-would buying a Bi-Xenon kit be a better choice for use in a r34 or OEM cefiros housing? or would i still need projectors anyway
damn i hate being a noobie.
Last edited by foreknowapparelworldwide; Jul 23, 2008 at 11:34 PM.
-Are there any light housings made for HID's for 4th gen maximas.. that are clear looking like the r34 style or something or are there only the halogen style housings available (in which case i have to buy projectors seperate and retrofit them.. i dont understand like.. ahh lol)
-can you buy HID's with Projectors already then get them put in your r34 or whatever housing...
-can anyone recommend sites to buy projectors that are good to use with r34 or OEM Crefiros can anyone recommend like a particular good projector that can be used in an OEM Cefiro housing or r34... ?
- anyone know any sorta "homemade" retrofit jobs.. things that they have made or whatever that worked or helped a bit focus the light
-so if i was to install D2R hid bulbs into my r34 or OEM Cefiro would that be better? do they still use the regular xenon hid conversion kit? or are they a different type of kit? um does using D2R bulbs as my HID bulbs in my r34 or OEM Cerfiro, would that sort of be a half decent solution rather than buying projectors?
-would buying a Bi-Xenon kit be a better choice for use in a r34 or OEM cefiros housing? or would i still need projectors anyway
damn i hate being a noobie.
exactly ^
-can you buy HID's with Projectors already then get them put in your r34 or whatever housing...
-can anyone recommend sites to buy projectors that are good to use with r34 or OEM Crefiros can anyone recommend like a particular good projector that can be used in an OEM Cefiro housing or r34... ?
- anyone know any sorta "homemade" retrofit jobs.. things that they have made or whatever that worked or helped a bit focus the light
-so if i was to install D2R hid bulbs into my r34 or OEM Cefiro would that be better? do they still use the regular xenon hid conversion kit? or are they a different type of kit? um does using D2R bulbs as my HID bulbs in my r34 or OEM Cerfiro, would that sort of be a half decent solution rather than buying projectors?
-would buying a Bi-Xenon kit be a better choice for use in a r34 or OEM cefiros housing? or would i still need projectors anyway
damn i hate being a noobie.
exactly ^
No worries.
No.
Yes, and aftermarket housing stock output is horrible enough that I wouldn't get them at all unless you were going to retrofit.
You can get a full kit (ignitors/ballasts, bulbs, projectors) online but really the bulbs and ballasts tend to be pretty universal so it's just as easy to piece together the kits.
No.
Yes, and aftermarket housing stock output is horrible enough that I wouldn't get them at all unless you were going to retrofit.
You can get a full kit (ignitors/ballasts, bulbs, projectors) online but really the bulbs and ballasts tend to be pretty universal so it's just as easy to piece together the kits.
HIDplanet.net and HIDplanet.net forums/classifieds
ebay
junkyard maybe?
Bixenons (HID low and high beam):
Infiniti FX projectors off an FX35/FX45
E46 projectors off an E46 BMW with bixenons
E55 projectors off of an '04 Maxima or Merc E class
TL projectors off an Acura TL (large, hard to fit and more expensive but great output)
Single Xenons (HID low beam, no high beam):
TSX projectors off an Acura TSX (pretty sharp, a pretty good deal for the output)
S2000 projectors (expensive but awesome output)
RX330 projectors off the lexus
RX-8 projectors
If you're going with bixenon projectors you'll need someone to make you a harness (or you can make it yourself if you're electrically inclined), you'll probably want someone to make you one even for single xenons.
Ehh. Do it right or not at all. People have put HIDs into cheaper halogen projectors (i.e. E30 projectors, integra projectors, Z32 projectors) with iffy results. If it's not designed for HIDs I'd steer clear.
Better? That depends on what you mean by better. Stock halogens would probably light the road better than R34s with HIDs. OEM Cefiros should be better than stock lighting at least. And yes, putting HIDs in either of these kits would require the conversion kits that you can find in the group deal section, but you'd want the H4 conversion kit.[/QUOTE]
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that other post was posted before he responded look @ the times on the topics
and i do that because not everyone looks at each topic and i need to know i've only done that like only 2 times with valid questions each time, forgive me
and i do that because not everyone looks at each topic and i need to know
i've only done that like only 2 times with valid questions each time, forgive me
Last edited by foreknowapparelworldwide; Jul 24, 2008 at 09:52 AM.
well a retro fit can be done and has been done by me and several other members on the board. I hope you arent cheap because neither are retros. O and a harness well just get out your wallet and start paying. Unless you can do these things on your own. You are looking at 5-600 for a good retro and 100 plus for a good harness.
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hmm I think I'll be holding off on the HID perhaps for a while until I get more money so I can do it right and use projectors, but for now, I do want to get either these R34's or OEM Cefiros if i can find them, or the aftermarket black smoked ones (though im not sure which fit better in a 1995 maxima se?)
Anyone know if the install on those particular R34's would be basically PNP or would I have to make some cuts and stuff like I would for the Cefiros?
for future reference with the hid's:
For my 1995 Maxima SE, I'm told a Bi-Xenon kit or a Hi/Low kit with would work ok. And, the H4 bulb with the Cefiros is recommended as opposed to the 9004's that go with the R34's. Is this accurate?
Anyone know if the install on those particular R34's would be basically PNP or would I have to make some cuts and stuff like I would for the Cefiros?
for future reference with the hid's:
For my 1995 Maxima SE, I'm told a Bi-Xenon kit or a Hi/Low kit with would work ok. And, the H4 bulb with the Cefiros is recommended as opposed to the 9004's that go with the R34's. Is this accurate?
foreknowapparelworldwide I replied to your post in another thread. And r34s has a harness that splits to a 9006(low) and 9005(high)
black_maxed95
Those projectors will fit as I am using the highs from the j30 and some s2000s for lows in my r34 retro.
The j30 will barely fit in there and are not that great but can be found for cheap. I got them at my junk yard for 25 dollars the set. But at least I give you props for using a projector and not just throwing in hids into a housing not meant for them.
I am going to make a how to do thread to show how its done the right way.
peace
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Those projectors will fit as I am using the highs from the j30 and some s2000s for lows in my r34 retro.
The j30 will barely fit in there and are not that great but can be found for cheap. I got them at my junk yard for 25 dollars the set. But at least I give you props for using a projector and not just throwing in hids into a housing not meant for them.
I am going to make a how to do thread to show how its done the right way.
peace
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Before I go ahead and choose to get R34's or leave it as stock.
Does any one know:
Are R34's better using stock light bulbs than the STOCK 95 max OEM's using stock bulbs?
Would stock R34's be better with HID than 95 max OEM's? This is without projectors. (If I choose to go head and buy HID later on for the lows if I use R34, and I decide it looks like crap beam wise, Ill deal with retrofitting pkjtrs then. Whatever)
Last edited by foreknowapparelworldwide; Jul 25, 2008 at 02:15 PM.
Before I go ahead and choose to get R34's or leave it as stock.
Does any one know:
a) Are R34's better using stock light bulbs than the STOCK 95 max OEM's using stock bulbs?
b) Would stock 95 max OEM's be better with HID than R34's? This is without projectors. (If I choose to go head any buy HID later on for the lows if I use R34, and I decide it looks like crap beam wise, Ill deal with retrofitting pkjtrs then. Whatever)
B) Doesn't matter IMO