4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

What the heck is this sound? How do i fix it? (Video Inside)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:30 PM
  #1  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
What the heck is this sound? How do i fix it? (Video Inside)

Hey so I just had a 11 hour roadtrip on the max from the Bay Area to Portland, Or. I am basically 20 seconds from my arrival point when i hear this weird BBR...sound.... I thiink...its coming from the tensioner, or belts?. What could be loose? what could be bad? how do i fix it.....!!!

It makes the sound even louder when I rev the vehicle....kind of sounds like when you put a baseball card against a bike wheel.....that brr brr brr noise.. lol

heres a vid sorry for the quality but try to make it out.....

Weird sound coming from engine?
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:39 PM
  #2  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
Check the tensioner
Check the Alty
Check the A/C compressor
Check the power steering pump

One of those devices has failed. Should be easy to figure it out cause it's toast.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:45 PM
  #3  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
soo this is what happening as well...forgot to mention it....my a/c just completely turned off for like 20 minutes during the drive....then turned back on and it wouldn't give heat at 84(blow cold), would only give it at 85. How would one "check power steering pump or a/c compressor?" and if my alternator went out my car wouldn't start...right? so that couldn't be it...
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:48 PM
  #4  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
Bearings.

Take the belts off and turn each device by hand. With noise like that, you'll know which one is bad once you spin it.

We would only be guessing at which component has failed. You need to troubleshoot.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:54 PM
  #5  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
so lets say im kinda mechanically inclined....but i can figure it out if you tell me where to look....if i took the belts off....i have a bad feeling i wouldnt be able to get it back on! lol...u guys dont think its just something loose?


how do i troubleshoot those devices....(a/c comp, ps pump, and alt)
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:35 PM
  #6  
toyick's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 571
From: las vegas
my dad taught me a trick when i was younger...and its never failed.
First go get a broom handle. a wooden handle of any sort with do the trick should be around 3-4 feet long. start the car. and start placing the handle on the engine down by the tensior ****** be careful not to slip. just gently place it. and put your ear to the other end of the dowel/handle. You will be able to till the difference of vibration/noise, depending on where the dowel is. I would start first on the engine block so you can get a feel of what it should sound like, then start with the tensioner, then with the alternator and so forth. I had that same noise with my alternator, found the issue in 3 mins. just be careful you dont stick the handle anywhere dangerous while the motor is running.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:50 PM
  #7  
Snypa's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 7,389
From: I-75 4th_Laud
i say tensioner too.Anything to do with under that silver plate/cover is scary.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:20 PM
  #8  
modenaf1's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,118
From: Denver Colorado
Originally Posted by toyick
my dad taught me a trick when i was younger...and its never failed.
First go get a broom handle. a wooden handle of any sort with do the trick should be around 3-4 feet long. start the car. and start placing the handle on the engine down by the tensior ****** be careful not to slip. just gently place it. and put your ear to the other end of the dowel/handle. You will be able to till the difference of vibration/noise, depending on where the dowel is. I would start first on the engine block so you can get a feel of what it should sound like, then start with the tensioner, then with the alternator and so forth. I had that same noise with my alternator, found the issue in 3 mins. just be careful you dont stick the handle anywhere dangerous while the motor is running.
I've heard of this. Sometimes even a big screwdriver or a chisel too.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:37 PM
  #9  
toyick's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 571
From: las vegas
Originally Posted by modenaf1
I've heard of this. Sometimes even a big screwdriver or a chisel too.
yeah my dads been doing it for years. i used to laugh at him all the time..but it works like a charm every time!
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:46 PM
  #10  
f550maranello2's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,496
Originally Posted by toyick
my dad taught me a trick when i was younger...and its never failed.
First go get a broom handle. a wooden handle of any sort with do the trick should be around 3-4 feet long. start the car. and start placing the handle on the engine down by the tensior ****** be careful not to slip. just gently place it. and put your ear to the other end of the dowel/handle. You will be able to till the difference of vibration/noise, depending on where the dowel is. I would start first on the engine block so you can get a feel of what it should sound like, then start with the tensioner, then with the alternator and so forth. I had that same noise with my alternator, found the issue in 3 mins. just be careful you dont stick the handle anywhere dangerous while the motor is running.
a long screwdriver does a better job... btw can you please take down that sig....
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 07:17 PM
  #11  
toyick's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 571
From: las vegas
Originally Posted by f550maranello2
a long screwdriver does a better job... btw can you please take down that sig....
Why do i have to take the sig down..?
and your welcome..
and why does a long screwdriver work better?
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 07:35 PM
  #12  
f550maranello2's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,496
cuz the last time i checked sound travels better through steel not wood...
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 09:55 PM
  #13  
toyick's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 571
From: las vegas
Originally Posted by f550maranello2
cuz the last time i checked sound travels better through steel not wood...
who has a 3-4 foot screw driver sitting around...
who has a broom layen around...
either way you get the point..the job gets done..russianmax can come back to the bay area, and we can go have a bay area max meet and have fun!
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:20 PM
  #14  
Big_D_Max's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8
From: Plano, TX
It is your pulley.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:56 PM
  #15  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
it is my pulley meaning it needs replacement or it is my pulley just tighten it back up or somthing.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:52 AM
  #16  
BIG D MAXX's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 107
From: Dallas Tx
I agree with everybody its the pulley thats either loose or just worn out. Try tightening up and if it continues to make the noise change it.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:12 AM
  #17  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
so whats the best way to tighten one? my car is really low cant really work underneath it....
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:13 AM
  #18  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
basically how do i get to the bolt...
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:15 PM
  #19  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
any1?
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:45 PM
  #20  
QNO_A32's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,105
From: NY
its gonna have to be changed. you can do it from the top with a wrench, socket and a couple extensions in about 10 min. just make sure you loosen the nut on the pulley before you loosen the tensioner.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:20 PM
  #21  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
so i took my wheel off....and looking at the pulley.....it looks cracked!!!! but everythign is tight as it should be... i think i have my stock one somewere in california!!!! AHH =[ what to do? Can i drive the car with a cracked pulley for a while? jeez...talk about bad luck 4 me..=[
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:27 PM
  #22  
toyick's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 571
From: las vegas
Originally Posted by RuSSiAnMax415
so i took my wheel off....and looking at the pulley.....it looks cracked!!!! but everythign is tight as it should be... i think i have my stock one somewere in california!!!! AHH =[ what to do? Can i drive the car with a cracked pulley for a while? jeez...talk about bad luck 4 me..=[
Hey, i am in bay area... as well. if you need an errand and an over nighter or somthing let me know.
i also just rearended some one last night.. i now need carbon fiber..
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:52 PM
  #23  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
lol i moved from the bay to oregon!!!! i wish i was there...would have had my car running asap. this sucks *****.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:12 PM
  #24  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
I got a pulley from Kragen for cheap. I kept it in my trunk... drove on the squeel for 2 weeks till it gave out on me on the fwy, 400 miles from home. I swapped in the new one plus belts in a parkinglot.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:19 PM
  #25  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
yeap. im 650 miles from home. well this is my new home so im home. but my oem pulley is far away. This kinda sucks. Plus the weather here doesnt even give u a chance to work on the car...buckets full of rain...Only thing im scared of is that i wont be able to change out the pulley myself....dono if i have enough tools. =/ i talked to some fam to try to ship it out to me. but that makes my car undrivable....for a while. Any1 know if its playing with fire if I drive on the cracked pulley for a lil?
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:24 PM
  #26  
toyick's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 571
From: las vegas
why dont you go to kragen and buy one there are super easy to replace..
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:10 PM
  #27  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Special tools? Let's make sure we're talking about the same pulley. It's the 4" diameter pulley that's adjustable, right? Looks like this:


Dr J
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:32 PM
  #28  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
i dont know if its the same...but mine is purple...and looksl ike this...
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:48 PM
  #29  
EnervinE's Avatar
i has college
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,363
From: KCMO-ish
Sounds like you have an aftermarket UDP and it's cracked. It also sounds like you didn't add that mod to your car.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:15 PM
  #30  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
i do have an aftermarket one...i didnt add it my mechanic did! lol
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:16 PM
  #31  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
but it was like new 6 motnhs ago and belts are new so i dont know why it would crack...maybe from the long road. It could of heat up or somthing...iono.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:19 PM
  #32  
96blkonblkse's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,862
From: Vancouver
Make sure thats what the problem is first before you start throwing parts at it. I dont think ive ever seen a cracked UDP, ive seen stock pulleys seperate from where the rubber dampening ring is. Id suggest taking the car in and having someone look at it. Be very careful with the screw driver or broom handle, last thing you need is a screw driver getting flung out the car lol.

If you do end up doing it yourself, make sure you put the key thats on the crank shaft aside and dont lose it, because if you do, good luck finding another one, or explaining to some parts kid at autozone what it is.

Its not overly hard, but for someone whos not very mechanically inclined, it may be a little overwhelming at first.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:24 PM
  #33  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
and that was in california....
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:25 PM
  #34  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
yea....im gonna take a picture and show you guys 2m.....
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:26 PM
  #35  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
and were would i take it in? i dont know of any shops in this area.....i just moved here 3 days ago....im almost 100% sure its the udp.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:42 PM
  #36  
QNO_A32's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,105
From: NY
oh i thought it was the tensioner pulley
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 08:40 PM
  #37  
96blkonblkse's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,862
From: Vancouver
Well if it is, Toss that thing, and put the stock pulley back in. IMO i swore by the UDP, untill i put my stocker back on and realized there was like no difference. Also when you understand engines more, you'll understand why they have the rubber ring to dampen vibrations..

If you wanna throw money at something, go buy a lightweight flywheel, something that'll actually make a difference.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:43 PM
  #38  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by QNO_A32
oh i thought it was the tensioner pulley
Me 2

I have a ur pulley in storage that i'm not using... been trying to sell it for the longest time. *sigh*
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:25 PM
  #39  
The Russian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,198
From: Russia
is it hard to put the pulley in ? i had my mechanic do mine....now hes not around and i figured out how to get to it...how hard could it be? you have an aftermarket one layin around? or a stock one...cuz im having a stock one shipped 2 me 2mrw.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hez8813
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
11
Mar 12, 2020 12:06 AM
spazma7ik
8th Generation Maxima (2016-)
9
Jan 12, 2017 09:38 PM
The Wizard
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
24
Oct 1, 2015 08:47 PM
TheMafia
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
6
Sep 4, 2015 08:26 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:51 AM.