Help decide: Bi Xenon or single kit
Help decide: Bi Xenon or single kit
I'm stuck between purchasing a bi xenon 6000k 9004 kit or just a single kit. Do i really need a bi xenon kit? Are there any benefits or anything i need to know about both? Thanks for reading. Serious comments only please.
-James
-James
If you're not going to put (retro fit) some projectors in .... then an HID kit is a waste of time and money. Our cars are not set up for HID systems - that is why eveyone retroz and fits projectors.
You need to do some more reading to be honest. Bi-xenon will allow you to have hi and low beams, single xenon will only give you low beams. Yes there are differences, why else would they make single -vs- bi-xenon? If you are serious about doing this, please read and for God sake boy!~! S E A R C H .... this thread is a waste of space.
Peace -
You need to do some more reading to be honest. Bi-xenon will allow you to have hi and low beams, single xenon will only give you low beams. Yes there are differences, why else would they make single -vs- bi-xenon? If you are serious about doing this, please read and for God sake boy!~! S E A R C H .... this thread is a waste of space.
Peace -
if u choose 6000k its probably because u want them for the good looking not really for light output, because in the stock reflector housing u will not have good light output, u will have al lot of glare and light everywhere, so if ur planning on putting them on the stock housing go for a single xenon, cuz if u go bixenon with the hi beam u will blind everyone on the road
if u choose 6000k its probably because u want them for the good looking not really for light output, because in the stock reflector housing u will not have good light output, u will have al lot of glare and light everywhere, so if ur planning on putting them on the stock housing go for a single xenon, cuz if u go bixenon with the hi beam u will blind everyone on the road

I'm not trying to be an *** here, but you all need to READ and SEARCH. This subject has been covered about 5,489,301,920,339,800,029,330 times on these forums and as I already stated, this thread is a waste of HD space.
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You don't get that an HID kit is not what makes it a bi-xenon or single xenon set up .... anybody, do you? It's the projector that determines that, plain and simple. The ballast (HID kit) only has one output signal to the light. Therefore, you're not going to get hi and low beam w/o having projectors. You will only get low beam output and it will look like **** in the stock housing (w/o projectors). Common people ... READ first, then post, and by all means ... if you don't know what the hell you're talking about, DON'T POST at all. Better to be thunk a fool of then to type it and let everybody know for sure that you are.
if u choose 6000k its probably because u want them for the good looking not really for light output, because in the stock reflector housing u will not have good light output, u will have al lot of glare and light everywhere, so if ur planning on putting them on the stock housing go for a single xenon, cuz if u go bixenon with the hi beam u will blind everyone on the road
okay i get it , if i want to enjoy more output (lumen's i assume) i should buy a projector setup, or make one. So it is not worth it to buy lights unless i have a projector.. hmm haven't heard that before.
Obviousely, you don't get it mate. lol 
Try searching for "HID Set up" or "HID ..... xxxx anydamnthing" and see what you get. Oh, in case nobody told you, the SEARCH is at the top of every ... yes, EVERY page at the right hand side.

Try searching for "HID Set up" or "HID ..... xxxx anydamnthing" and see what you get. Oh, in case nobody told you, the SEARCH is at the top of every ... yes, EVERY page at the right hand side.
Depends and depends. You can buy projectors for 100-400 a set . Then you would need bulbs and ballasts and if you want a shroud to make it nice. To have some one do it also depends on what you get done. I do them for 100-200 depending on the projectors you choose.
What it comes down to James is that it is your decision! Legally you need to have high beams, so that answers that question. If you have time and money, the projector is the BEST way to go. You will get the same answer in this forum almost everytime. No matter what you do to try to aim the lights with a Bi-xenon kit, you will get glare.
However, people have them on other cars that in my opinon glare a lot more than a 98 factory housing. Decision Time!
However, people have them on other cars that in my opinon glare a lot more than a 98 factory housing. Decision Time!
never mind this junk all i wanted was some straight answers, i know how to search, i did search, i saw projectors, they are really expensive, more than i want to spend on a car. My headlights are not cutting it, they are dull and i cannot see a thing. I wanted brighter lights. Maybe 5000k? i have no idea anymore because i get so many different answers. All i need is help deciding and some one to point me in the right direction please.
What it comes down to James is that it is your decision! Legally you need to have high beams, so that answers that question. If you have time and money, the projector is the BEST way to go. You will get the same answer in this forum almost everytime. No matter what you do to try to aim the lights with a Bi-xenon kit, you will get glare.
However, people have them on other cars that in my opinon glare a lot more than a 98 factory housing. Decision Time!
However, people have them on other cars that in my opinon glare a lot more than a 98 factory housing. Decision Time!
yep, i bought a bi-xenon 4300k kit and stuck it in stock 95 housings, then i upgraded to 97 lamps from depo lights (almost no glare but crappy pattern - thus not seeing that much more) so i can retro projectors - they're pretty cheap on ebay (even bi-xenons). so make yourself a x-mas gift - xenon d2s hid kit and bi-xenon projectors - all can be had for under $200 shipped, and then put some work into a nice retro.
"yep, i bought a bi-xenon 4300k kit and stuck it in stock 95 housings, then i upgraded to 97 lamps from depo lights (almost no glare but crappy pattern - thus not seeing that much more) so i can retro projectors - they're pretty cheap on ebay (even bi-xenons). so make yourself a x-mas gift - xenon d2s hid kit and bi-xenon projectors - all can be had for under $200 shipped, and then put some work into a nice retro."
So your saying you do retro? Or your saying it is cheaper to just buy them off eBay.
Last edited by JumpinJimmy; Dec 19, 2008 at 01:01 PM.
What it comes down to James is that it is your decision! Legally you need to have high beams, so that answers that question. If you have time and money, the projector is the BEST way to go. You will get the same answer in this forum almost everytime. No matter what you do to try to aim the lights with a Bi-xenon kit, you will get glare.
However, people have them on other cars that in my opinon glare a lot more than a 98 factory housing. Decision Time!
However, people have them on other cars that in my opinon glare a lot more than a 98 factory housing. Decision Time!
Thanks, i think i understand the temperature deal. higher K means less output. Lower K means more out put (4000k most output, 8000k and above, least amount.
"yep, i bought a bi-xenon 4300k kit and stuck it in stock 95 housings, then i upgraded to 97 lamps from depo lights (almost no glare but crappy pattern - thus not seeing that much more) so i can retro projectors - they're pretty cheap on ebay (even bi-xenons). so make yourself a x-mas gift - xenon d2s hid kit and bi-xenon projectors - all can be had for under $200 shipped, and then put some work into a nice retro."
So your saying you do retro? Or your saying it is cheaper to just buy them off eBay.
"yep, i bought a bi-xenon 4300k kit and stuck it in stock 95 housings, then i upgraded to 97 lamps from depo lights (almost no glare but crappy pattern - thus not seeing that much more) so i can retro projectors - they're pretty cheap on ebay (even bi-xenons). so make yourself a x-mas gift - xenon d2s hid kit and bi-xenon projectors - all can be had for under $200 shipped, and then put some work into a nice retro."
So your saying you do retro? Or your saying it is cheaper to just buy them off eBay.
and yes - the parts are cheaper on ebay for the job.
Thanks, i think i understand the temperature deal. higher K means less output. Lower K means more out put (4000k most output, 8000k and above, least output.)
"yep, i bought a bi-xenon 4300k kit and stuck it in stock 95 housings, then i upgraded to 97 lamps from depo lights (almost no glare but crappy pattern - thus not seeing that much more) so i can retro projectors - they're pretty cheap on ebay (even bi-xenons). so make yourself a x-mas gift - xenon d2s hid kit and bi-xenon projectors - all can be had for under $200 shipped, and then put some work into a nice retro."
So your saying you do retro? Or your saying it is cheaper to just buy them off eBay.
"yep, i bought a bi-xenon 4300k kit and stuck it in stock 95 housings, then i upgraded to 97 lamps from depo lights (almost no glare but crappy pattern - thus not seeing that much more) so i can retro projectors - they're pretty cheap on ebay (even bi-xenons). so make yourself a x-mas gift - xenon d2s hid kit and bi-xenon projectors - all can be had for under $200 shipped, and then put some work into a nice retro."
So your saying you do retro? Or your saying it is cheaper to just buy them off eBay.
If you look at the law books my friend. Even retrofited headlights unless a factory option are illegal. Will that stop us, well no. We will still retro fit. DO we get messed with , no. As long as its clean and not blinding the cops wont mess wit ya.
Im saying that you CAN put a hid kit in your car. It WILL not perform the way you want it do. If you do retro then you can harness hids full potential and what they were meant to do.
so lets say this, i find some one to retrofit projectors (say you) for a certain price. Install those and just save the hid kit for later after i have the projectors. If i use projectors with just stock lights will they perform better?
by law, it is illegal to modify the lighting of the car in anyway. I.E., the red and clears are illegal, led tailights are illegal, hid fogs are illegal. Unless it comes stock with the car, it is illegal. However, the law is pursued with law officers that will pursue legal or illegal issues on your car. Hence, if you are most likely to do a retro-fit, they won't bother you because you're not really blinding anyone or anything.
Light output does suck. A lot of people have HIDs, yes they are illegal, and yes they glare other people's vision. However, i have cefiro's which require h4 that has a glare shield on them which cuts off some of the blinding to other drivers. i lower the output of the housing to the point where i can still see better than stock. Considering i'm pretty low, a normal car driving towards me does not get blinded where they cannot see anything.
Do i want projectors? Why of course, i've always wanted projectors. But everytime i look at the prices for good projectors, ballasts, shrouds, and all that good stuff, it runs somewhere around 500-600.
If you cannot see at night, see if changing to sylvania silverstars will help. If it doesn't, and if its pretty dangerous, see if you can add fog lights. If both of those answers are no, then hid set is the cheapest solution right now. However, everyone is right that if you are not considerate, blinding on-coming traffic is a bad thing.
A test to see if your hid's are blinding people. If you drive when there is a police officer coming towards you, he doesn't turn around and pull you over, you should be ok. If he does, you better lower that beam quick and try to figure out how not to blind people.
Light output does suck. A lot of people have HIDs, yes they are illegal, and yes they glare other people's vision. However, i have cefiro's which require h4 that has a glare shield on them which cuts off some of the blinding to other drivers. i lower the output of the housing to the point where i can still see better than stock. Considering i'm pretty low, a normal car driving towards me does not get blinded where they cannot see anything.
Do i want projectors? Why of course, i've always wanted projectors. But everytime i look at the prices for good projectors, ballasts, shrouds, and all that good stuff, it runs somewhere around 500-600.
If you cannot see at night, see if changing to sylvania silverstars will help. If it doesn't, and if its pretty dangerous, see if you can add fog lights. If both of those answers are no, then hid set is the cheapest solution right now. However, everyone is right that if you are not considerate, blinding on-coming traffic is a bad thing.
A test to see if your hid's are blinding people. If you drive when there is a police officer coming towards you, he doesn't turn around and pull you over, you should be ok. If he does, you better lower that beam quick and try to figure out how not to blind people.
couldn't have said it any better, thank you, its crazy that all this is illegal. had no idea. thanks
To the OP, FWIW, if it is not worth doing right, it is not worth doing at all. Get the proper parts, do a nice retro fit (Infiniti FX35 bi-xenon projectors with an OEM HID kit (I like the Infiniti kits myself) and a 4300K bulb) and you will be VERY happy.
Wrong. You CAN get a bi-xenon HID kit without using a projector. It has a shield that is activated by the output from the high beams. It moves the shield that changes the pattern of the light. Bi-xenon projectors have this shield built into the projector.
To the OP, FWIW, if it is not worth doing right, it is not worth doing at all. Get the proper parts, do a nice retro fit (Infiniti FX35 bi-xenon projectors with an OEM HID kit (I like the Infiniti kits myself) and a 4300K bulb) and you will be VERY happy.
To the OP, FWIW, if it is not worth doing right, it is not worth doing at all. Get the proper parts, do a nice retro fit (Infiniti FX35 bi-xenon projectors with an OEM HID kit (I like the Infiniti kits myself) and a 4300K bulb) and you will be VERY happy.
Seriously... this thread has a lot of good information. I'm not gonna be an *** and tell you too search OP. I'm hoping this info has helped you so far.
And the point i wanted to make was:
Get Koozsho to do a retro for you with bixenon projectors. This will give you the maximum amount of light on the road.
If you get a kit and no projectors, you will be
a few months after b/c you are not happy w/the intensity and beam pattern.
Trust us, most of us have been in your shoes.
And the point i wanted to make was:
Get Koozsho to do a retro for you with bixenon projectors. This will give you the maximum amount of light on the road.
If you get a kit and no projectors, you will be
a few months after b/c you are not happy w/the intensity and beam pattern. Trust us, most of us have been in your shoes.
if i were you, i might opt to get the r34 headlights and use the 9005 and 9006 bulbs. (i believe thats what they use) 9005 and 9006 bulbs are soooo much better in light output imo...but then again, it might have been the housing. Haven't seen the r34 light output in person, but i believe ANY bulb is better than the stock 9004...



