Timing advance on Nissans?

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Feb 26, 2009 | 10:35 AM
  #1  
Has anyone here messed around with the 2 degree timing advance?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...048228220.html
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Feb 26, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Quote: Has anyone here messed around with the 2 degree timing advance?

http://http://losangeles.craigslist....048228220.html
Take out the extra http in your link.

I also know that it depends on what ECU you have. I tried to get it done on my 96 (a local guy) but he said that it may or may not "take" for some reason
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Feb 26, 2009 | 11:17 AM
  #3  
It doesn't add 8-10 HP like the ad said...you can do it on the consult 2. I did mine for 40 bucks, and it gave a better throttle response pretty much. Maybe 2 hp gains at most if any. Search the tons of other threads on this
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Feb 26, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Oh and mine was done on a 5th gen
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Feb 26, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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From what I know, as soon as you turn off your 4th gen after you get the timing advance, it is gone. You would have to do it again every time, or never turn your car off. Something about the 4th gen ECU that doesnt hold the timing advance info.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Quote: Search the tons of other threads on this
LOL, I've been researching here at maxima.org pretty heavily for the last 2 months, since I now own 2 Gen4's, and the CL ad was the first I have ever read of any timing advance procedure.

That is one of the probems of not resurrecting older threads, if you don't even know what to search for, who knows what you are missing???
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Feb 26, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Quote: From what I know, as soon as you turn off your 4th gen after you get the timing advance, it is gone. You would have to do it again every time, or never turn your car off. Something about the 4th gen ECU that doesnt hold the timing advance info.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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as far as i know the only way to advance timing on the 4th gen is the ks resistor bypass.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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The Consult/Cipher/Autoenginuity method will not hold on an A32 ECU.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 05:25 PM
  #10  
Since it won't work, lock this thread.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Quote: as far as i know the only way to advance timing on the 4th gen is the ks resistor bypass.

No.
This will only bring you back to the stock timing map if you had a KS code to begin with and your car was running a safe timing map.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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No.
This will only bring you back to the stock timing map if you had a KS code to begin with and your car was running a safe timing map.
you're right. i remember reading a few old threads on the ks resistor and it said that the 470k ohm resistor value cheats the ecu into thinking that there is no knock and advances the timing. i know it's all within stock specs and not a tuner mod but only sure way to do that.
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Feb 26, 2009 | 06:20 PM
  #13  
problem solved then
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Feb 26, 2009 | 10:19 PM
  #14  
I dont think it advances the timing with the resistor, but rather bring it back to normal. By advancing I would think of it like "up and above normal level". The resistor would only act on behalve of a good working KS and not some super boost.
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Feb 27, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Quote: Since it won't work, lock this thread.
Why? There's still useful information being discussed here.


It is interesting that this thread just arose, because I had not even heard of the timing advance ever with all my time here until just last night I was reading the 5th gen stickies out of sheer boredom and came across it.

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/4...ive-proof.html

You guys might want to check that out too, apparently the dyno showed 3hp and 2.5tq increase. I believe that timing bump was on the VQ35.



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as far as i know the only way to advance timing on the 4th gen is the ks resistor bypass.
The knock sensor resistor bypass will give you more advanced timing however in a completely different and potentially unsafe way than the Nissan Consult II timing advance on the 5th gens.

All the resistor bypass on the knock sensor does is keep the computer from RETARDING the timing any. Virtually all it does is tell the ECU your engine is not knocking, when it may be.

By advancing it in consult, the ECU will still retard timing if it senses knock, however its timing maps are just more aggressive overall +2 degrees.
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Feb 27, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Emanage Ultimate..........
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