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Old 06-03-2009 | 04:53 PM
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Cefiro healights come with H4 harnesses which need to be spliced...

Does that mean I need H4 bulbs or do I still use my 9004's and 1157 parking lights.
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Old 06-04-2009 | 05:42 AM
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Do you actually have the new lamps in hand?

If you do, it will be obvious that the 9004 bulbs will not work. The Cefiro lamps have different bulbs and usually come with a new pigtail that must be spliced into the existing harness.
Old 06-04-2009 | 08:57 AM
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you can squeeze the 9004 bulb into the cefiro light, but if it came with H4, I would highly suggest you use the H4 harness and get H4 Bulbs.. light output will be slightly better with H4 compared to using the 9004's...
It's not that hard to splice anyways... 3 wires, 1 for ground, 1 for low and 1 for high..
you can use the 1157's for the corners..

I had the 9004 bulbs in my cefiros for a while back a few years ago.. oh man, the out put sucked.. I'll try to find you some pics..
Old 06-04-2009 | 09:24 AM
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don't encourage this dude.

use the freakin h4, they didn't send you the harness because you're awesome, they sent it to you because that's what bulbs they use.
Old 06-04-2009 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
don't encourage this dude.

use the freakin h4, they didn't send you the harness because you're awesome, they sent it to you because that's what bulbs they use.
LoL, not trying to encourage him at all.. just wanted to to let him know if he ever does try it and say "yay, it works withthe 9004 bulbs", at least he was told that the output will suck donkey *****..

My cefiro's didn't come with H4 harnesses tho
Old 06-04-2009 | 11:07 AM
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OK well as long as the 1157's will work for the corners I'm fine. Does anyone know which H4 bulbs are the whitest and brightest?
Old 06-04-2009 | 12:01 PM
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Old 06-04-2009 | 04:28 PM
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Old 06-04-2009 | 10:46 PM
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PLEASE!!! don't do drop in HIDs. not only do they look tacky, but you'll cause some major glare and won't properly illuminate the road in front of you.

if you want white and bright, sylvania silverstars are a good idea.
Old 06-04-2009 | 11:11 PM
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stay far far away from Sylvania Silverstars. Blue tint = less output. They heat the filament more for extra output to compensate for the tint, which reduces life.

Philips Xtremepower H4. The best and brightest stock-wattage H4 bulb on the market.

http://www.suvlights.com/product_inf...roducts_id=100

Otherwise, you could run overwattage 100/130w instead of 55/65w bulbs. These will require the use of a relay harness connected directly to the battery. Since you're splicing anyway, you might as well just buy a H4 harness, and solder a 9004 male connector on the end, so you don't chop up stock.

http://www.suvlights.com/product_inf...roducts_id=154
Old 06-05-2009 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nalc
stay far far away from Sylvania Silverstars. Blue tint = less output. They heat the filament more for extra output to compensate for the tint, which reduces life.

Philips Xtremepower H4. The best and brightest stock-wattage H4 bulb on the market.
i stand corrected, lol. good info. i've never actually used them, but i generally hear good stuff... that's why i suggested them.
Old 06-05-2009 | 02:27 PM
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Or you could retro in some projectors.





BTW, hows the ideas for the tails coming along?
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i just spliced mine into the existing harness and bought a hid kit...
Old 03-05-2010 | 03:43 PM
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Hate to bump this topic... I just purchased the Cefiro 1 piece head lamps and I see someone recommending the, "Philips Xtremepower H4", those are horrible.. I mean in general halogen bulbs are just simply horrible, they'll always have a tint of yellow or simply be off white. With that said I would definitely go with a HID setup, even a simple 4300k or better yet 6000k HIDs.
Old 03-05-2010 | 06:11 PM
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H4's are probably the best halogens you could use, especially if you pair it with a high lumens bulb. For the ultimate setup, run it with a relay harness to get full power to them. The highest lumens output HID bulb are the Philips 85122+, and they are slightly yellow.

Anything higher than 5000k on an HID bulb is garbage, and moreso as they colourshift over time.
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Originally Posted by illmortal
Hate to bump this topic... I just purchased the Cefiro 1 piece head lamps and I see someone recommending the, "Philips Xtremepower H4", those are horrible.. I mean in general halogen bulbs are just simply horrible, they'll always have a tint of yellow or simply be off white. With that said I would definitely go with a HID setup, even a simple 4300k or better yet 6000k HIDs.
Oh. You've tried the XP H4? You've done a direct comparison of beam pattern and glare for stoc H4 vs. extremepower H4 vs. overwattage H4 (Osram 70w/65w are a good option too) vs. a HID kit? Have you compared the visibility with 4300k and the visibility with 6000k to make an accurate claim about them?

If you have, please send me the resutls you found, and some beam shots. Then I'll take you seriously.
Old 03-06-2010 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nalc
Oh. You've tried the XP H4? You've done a direct comparison of beam pattern and glare for stoc H4 vs. extremepower H4 vs. overwattage H4 (Osram 70w/65w are a good option too) vs. a HID kit? Have you compared the visibility with 4300k and the visibility with 6000k to make an accurate claim about them?

If you have, please send me the resutls you found, and some beam shots. Then I'll take you seriously.
Naw, I've used them. Personal opinion from experience.
Old 03-24-2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonka
H4's are probably the best halogens you could use, especially if you pair it with a high lumens bulb. For the ultimate setup, run it with a relay harness to get full power to them. The highest lumens output HID bulb are the Philips 85122+, and they are slightly yellow.

Anything higher than 5000k on an HID bulb is garbage, and moreso as they colourshift over time.
That's actually a great suggestion in regards to the relay & Philips 85122+. I'll look around to see if there's any recommendations on relays + instructions on how to set them up.
Old 03-24-2010 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by illmortal
Hate to bump this topic... I just purchased the Cefiro 1 piece head lamps and I see someone recommending the, "Philips Xtremepower H4", those are horrible.. I mean in general halogen bulbs are just simply horrible, they'll always have a tint of yellow or simply be off white. With that said I would definitely go with a HID setup, even a simple 4300k or better yet 6000k HIDs.
Kinda sad at all the misinformation here. I dont know where to start, O yea. 6k Is not and will never be brighter than 4300k period. If you could grasp the concept on how your eye optics work then you may understand how you are wrong, but i doubt it. Secondly, you can put hids in the housings but why? So you have tons more Unusable light? Go right ahead.

If you feel comfortable with the drivers coming at you not being able to see have at it just please let me know when you drive so i will never be on the road with you.
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very true. I dont know why people end up buying 20000k hids where its just a blue light shining through your headlights without doing what its suppose to. L
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
Kinda sad at all the misinformation here. I dont know where to start, O yea. 6k Is not and will never be brighter than 4300k period. If you could grasp the concept on how your eye optics work then you may understand how you are wrong, but i doubt it. Secondly, you can put hids in the housings but why? So you have tons more Unusable light? Go right ahead.

If you feel comfortable with the drivers coming at you not being able to see have at it just please let me know when you drive so i will never be on the road with you.
Ya I did a bit of research and see your point.

I just finally got the time to install my Cefiro head lamps but now I'm stuck trying to figure out what's the hi/low/ground on the H4 harness it self. It doesn't come with any instructions or any sort of diagram that shows which wires are which for the harness so now I can't splice anything in fear I might cause electrical damage or damage to the bulb.

Does anyone have a clue what green and red might represent on the harness? I'm sure black = ground, I just don't want to turn my head lamps on and it be set to high beam then re-wire again... unless that's my only option at this point?
Old 03-24-2010 | 05:35 PM
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They're standardized by pinout, not by color.

On 9004, the center pin is a ground, one side is high beam, and the other side is lowbeam.

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...up-pics-9.html
First post on the page has a pic. that's the bulb pinout, so the harness pinout on the car should just be the mirror image, if you get what I mean



Don't trust the colors of wires... I've gotten burned by wiring up 9004 connectors by color code, because the colors were coded correctly for 9007, but the seller was selling the same connector as 9004 and as 9007 (only difference is pinout).
Old 03-25-2010 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nalc
They're standardized by pinout, not by color.

On 9004, the center pin is a ground, one side is high beam, and the other side is lowbeam.

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...up-pics-9.html
First post on the page has a pic. that's the bulb pinout, so the harness pinout on the car should just be the mirror image, if you get what I mean



Don't trust the colors of wires... I've gotten burned by wiring up 9004 connectors by color code, because the colors were coded correctly for 9007, but the seller was selling the same connector as 9004 and as 9007 (only difference is pinout).
Hey thanks a lot. This forum has been packed with threads over the years so it's been a struggle tryin to find a thread with instructions on installing the Cefiro head lamps. I came to another obstacle now it's the 1157 sockets that came with the head lamps.

I bought the head lamps (I assume knock offs) from depoautolights and in the description of the headlamps it claims that it comes with the H4 harness + instructions or you could simply download them (can't find instructions on their site). But they forgot to send both the harness and instructions with the head lamps. So now I have these different 1157 sockets and I can't find the harness at autozone nor Schucks auto parts store specifically for that socket.

So now I will more than likely have to rig it with individual wires (3). And now with the 1157 socket, I've been tryin to find the diagram of that. All three "males" are in a row, side by side. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow in the day time so people can see what I'm talking about.

Anyways thanks again for your input, it helped a lot, and got my head lights to work flawlessly.
Old 03-25-2010 | 02:31 AM
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Hmmmm I don't have the data offhand on the pinouts for 1157. Do you have a multimeter? It'd be easy enough to figure out what goes where if you have the socket.

Unfortunately, I don't have my sockets with me. 95-96 are 3 pins, and use the dim filament as a running light and bright filament as a cornering lamp. 97-99 are the same socket and bulb, but only a 2 pin connector. I have like six of the 97-99 sockets, and one of the 95-96 sockets, but it's at my parents' house so I won't be able to check for awhile.
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