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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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you mean like a notebook, and a calculator, and a pen?
lol ouch.


Similar, but you can compare your mileage with other cars and it makes charts/graphs for you by simply inputting the numbers.
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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under 20 average ftl, i have a heavy foot. but ive gotten 24-26 before
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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I can pull 30-32 mpg highway, as long as I don't go too fast.

I had an annoying commute all summer - 55mph road with lots of traffic lights. I'd have to get all the way up to 55, then stop, then do it again. and again. and again. It was like 25-30 traffic lights over about 12.5 miles. I got about 24mpg doing that.
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Yeah, I don't understand what's up w/ my mileage:

The goods:
-New Fuel filter (from 300zx )
-New plugs
-91-93 gas at all times
-Synthetic oil changed like 3k ago

The bads:
-CEL for transmission signal - I have no idea what this one means really, but it may be possibly causing my torque converter to engage too early?
-5.5 gen 17" wheels
-Little bit of audio weight..not a lot though

I get between 20 and 23 every tank

Old Sep 12, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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I get this WITH the A/C on though.. I dont hold back from getting nice cold air on a hot *** day, I dont care if it costs me a little more
I'll send you my email, just send me paypal payment for my gas, and I'll drive with the A/C on in February.
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Monster will get 33Hwy on cruise cntrl, bout 23 round town cause i floor it about 1/3 times to get people to stop laughing at my droney N1, i expect my mileage to get better when i put the CAI on it.
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Very possible. On long highway trips with a 5pd if you put it on cruise control.
Auto's get better highway mileage than 5-speed's. I know this not only from personal experience, but via EPA ratings and simple math. The 5-speeds are much more fun on the highway, though, and there's no reason to ever leave 5th gear
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Auto's get better highway mileage than 5-speed's. I know this not only from personal experience, but via EPA ratings and simple math. The 5-speeds are much more fun on the highway, though, and there's no reason to ever leave 5th gear
I never looked but I guess O/D in an auto is taller than 5th in a manual?

And confirmed: in an auto, its 0.694 while in a 5spd top gear is 0.795

I would have thought that the top gear in the tranny with more selections would be taller, but apparently its the other way around. Guess Nissan figured manual drivers have more fun. Now I really want to do the swap. And now I also know why I drive with O/D off unless I'm going over 45 or so. The car just feels so numb in overdrive with the auto, and it always wants to shift. Damn fuel efficient shifting algorithm.
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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I think some of you are still thinking backwards about bigger wheels/tires. Ecomodders often put larger-diameter tires on their cars to get better mileage because it has the same effect as putting a taller final gear in the car. There is a smaller negative effect from doing this in that larger wheels/tires are typically heavier, but the overall effect is still an improvement in gas mileage. And as stated before, the mileage would read less because the speedo/odometer would think that the car is moving more slowly and less distance. If someone has increased their tire diameter and is reporting unusually good mileage, this is not due to error from the larger tires because the error would run in the opposite direction. However, if someone posted that they got 40 MPG from putting 13's on their Max, we would have endless reasons to make fun of that person.


Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
whats that website that logs your gas fill ups and calculates mileage? Its like a facebook of MPG..
There are several. Fueleconomy.gov has a feature like that. Ecomodder.com is a site I frequent that has a good trip log feature. I'm sure there are others. Ecomodder isn't like Facebook, really. It's just a site with a forum and some interesting tools for logging gas mileage.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm8127
I never looked but I guess O/D in an auto is taller than 5th in a manual?

And confirmed: in an auto, its 0.694 while in a 5spd top gear is 0.795
The torque converter lock-up is just as important as the taller 4th gear in the auto, but yes...either way, it's much taller than the 5-speed's 5th gear. 70 MPH in the auto should be about 2300 RPM and in the 5-speed it's closer to 3000 (if I'm remembering right).
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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I average 19-20 on my Cal speced 99 i30. I have a really heavy foot and my car had approx 100-200 lbs of weight in it and slow leaks in the tires.

I did empty the trunk, inflate my tires and drive like an old lady for approx 25. After emptying my trunk, I had to re-adjust my lights. I always fill with cali's highest, 91 octane. Engine has 8Xk miles.

My smog data says my engine is running great. Get a look at my Hydrocarbons, Carbon Monoxide and Nitrogen Oxide Part Per Million readings. LOL Smog tech said the readings like this make them have a higher chance of getting inspected.

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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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best ive ever gotten was 29 mpg. usually 24-26. I commute on all back roads with cruise at 60.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Coolsaber57
Yeah, I don't understand what's up w/ my mileage:

The goods:
-New Fuel filter (from 300zx )
-New plugs
-91-93 gas at all times
-Synthetic oil changed like 3k ago

The bads:
-CEL for transmission signal - I have no idea what this one means really, but it may be possibly causing my torque converter to engage too early?
-5.5 gen 17" wheels
-Little bit of audio weight..not a lot though

I get between 20 and 23 every tank

Well I have quads, and you only have doubles, so that's probably why I get like 10mpg better than you.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nalc
Well I have quads, and you only have doubles, so that's probably why I get like 10mpg better than you.
Quads = useless in most situations. Unless you drive around with your highbeams constantly on. Waste of money IMO

I wonder if I have an exhaust leak I guess i'll have to pick up a Y pipe one of these days and fix that crap

Anyone with Volk TE37s wanna trade for some 5.5gen wheels?
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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I'll trade you my 16" '00 GLE wheels for your 5.5gen wheels. Lighter.

And, if you think quads are useless, then maybe I shouldn't tell you that I have some H1 projectors that I just picked up. Not sure where they're going yet. I have hi/lo/fogs, and IDK which projectors to use in which places lol.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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You are using the imperial gallon to measure, not the american gallon. It's 1/5 bigger and therefore your mileage would look about 1/5 bigger than reality.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nalc
I'll trade you my 16" '00 GLE wheels for your 5.5gen wheels. Lighter.

And, if you think quads are useless, then maybe I shouldn't tell you that I have some H1 projectors that I just picked up. Not sure where they're going yet. I have hi/lo/fogs, and IDK which projectors to use in which places lol.
My boat anchors > 00 gle wheels.

However, I have some 16s in the works that should help my problem

Proj. fogs would actually be useful. Way more so than dedicated high-beam projos. Our stock fogs really suck in the....fog...
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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I get around 25mpg average with a CEL on. Take under consideration on where you live also. If you live where its flat like FL you will get better MPG..... If your like me in PA with mountains and hills its gonna be different.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DIAMONDS98SE
I hear ya. It seems like almost 3000 rpm for 70 mph is a little high in 5th. But i hit 31 on my last tank, and thats a mix of highway and city, and i generally get up to speed pretty fast too I love my max
I only hit 3000rpm at like 85-90 and I have an auto... As for mpg, I also got 30.5 on a recent roadtrip and get in the mid-high 20s on every single tank. Haven't done any major repairs in ages...just air filter and oil. Also got an exhaust leak.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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I get 31 mpg on the highway.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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I have 171k on my 5sp and usually set the cruise on the highway and can get just around 28 mpg...if I am 80% highway.


It is hard for me to keep off of the gas
I love to drive the shizzzzznit out of my Max.
If I baby it, I might be able to get 30ish.


"I cannot stand people who are not up to highway speed before gettting on the highway!!!!" GAS IS ON THE RIGHT!!!!!!!! .......there is my rant for the day
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Lucky you!!! I havent got anything beyond 18 (City) and 22 (Highways) in my 99 GLE. My 2003 SE is still worse!
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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My dad constantly averages between 26-30mpg, and almost half of his commute to work is stop and go. He's very light on the gas, doesn't speed, etc.
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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my gas mileage>your mods.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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You can never beat company ads ... if they say 21-22 MPG , it is silly to think you can go further , if you say mods , then tell me yours so I can do them and get the 31MPG ...lol...
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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The above poster is an idiot.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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The poster directly above me knows what he's talking about.

They set the mileage requirements in a specific testing way. If your conditions are better than that, you can do better than the EPA rated mileage. Less restrictive breathing for the motor, drafting, very light on the gas, not doing sudden stops and starts, having a chilly day with good air density, ~35 psi in the tires, all of this stuff can improve gas mileage beyond the EPA rating.
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The above poster is an idiot.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nalc
The poster directly above me knows what he's talking about.

They set the mileage requirements in a specific testing way. If your conditions are better than that, you can do better than the EPA rated mileage. Less restrictive breathing for the motor, drafting, very light on the gas, not doing sudden stops and starts, having a chilly day with good air density, ~35 psi in the tires, all of this stuff can improve gas mileage beyond the EPA rating.
the difference would be more than 10 MPG ??? (more than 50%.....WAW!) ???? I doubt it.....2nd thing , they test the car in best conditions , so you'll be amazed by the fuel economy ...
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem
the difference would be more than 10 MPG ??? (more than 50%.....WAW!) ???? I doubt it.....2nd thing , they test the car in best conditions , so you'll be amazed by the fuel economy ...
This is completely false. Next time, say the opposite of what you're thinking, and people will think you're smarter.

All auto manufacturers advertising in the US have to advertise ratings based on an EPA test cycle, which is far from ideal conditions.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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as long as your not trying to be speed racer you will get decent gas mileage lol
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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It's funny, but after 6 years of owning this car I finally got more than 30 MPG on a trip a few weeks ago. On a roughly 300 mile round trip to the beach with 98% highway driving my car got 32 MPG. It's a 5 speed on 235/45/17 tires, and I was basically doing the speed limit most of the time which was usually 55-65. The five following days going to work (city driving) I got 19 MPG, but I was driving more aggressively than on the beach trip.
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem
the difference would be more than 10 MPG ??? (more than 50%.....WAW!) ???? I doubt it.....2nd thing , they test the car in best conditions , so you'll be amazed by the fuel economy ...
That isn't true. They test them under "real world" conditions, to try to make an accurate guess of what most drivers will see. This means variations in speed, uphill and downhill, non-ideal weather conditions, 29-32 psi tires instead of 35-38 psi tires.

I know for a fact that I got 31mpg on my trip to Maxus. ~500 miles on one tank. Jime was telling me that he was getting 36mpg, because of his weight reduction and automatic transmission. I also recorded 31-32 mpg several other times this summer, usually on I-95.

Originally Posted by VQ30MPG
This is completely false. Next time, say the opposite of what you're thinking, and people will think you're smarter.
Heh, I love it. Can I sig quote this?
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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I came online to do some research tonight. I don't care if everyone hates me for this but there is NO way that a 4th gen maxima is getting 30+ mpg. I drive a '97 5spd with 103k miles. At 65mph I average 25mpg.

If I were to calculate fuel consumption based upon my odometer, I'd get 35+ mpg.

The explanation is simple. My speedometer is off (overly optimistic) by 10mph. So... when i'm going 65 i'm really going 55 mph. This was confirmed with 2 different gps units that I own. So, to all of you with this 4 cylinder type of fuel mileage, calibrate your speedometer using a gps unit. For anyone wondering, I have 215/45/17 tires, aftermarket rims.

I'm sure the argument will continue but Nissan would love to test the v6 that get's 30mpg from the factory.
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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You don't know jack. I've gotten 32mpg on the highway - and that's at mostly 87mph average. In mixed highway/city I get high 19's driving like an old lady (never redline, try to keep under 3000rpm). If I drive like a maniac, it goes down to 17....
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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My $0.02

I am on my 2nd '97 Maxima. Both are autos. I live in Minneapolis / St. Paul and have a 25 mile commute each way (traffic can be heavy and slow at times almost every day each way). The only mod is a K&N air filter (if you want to call that a mod). Always run premium gas and perform all preventative maint, etc. and fill up at the same pump (when possible) and allow the pump to shut itself off for consistency.
My 1st one (traded it in 1 year ago with 175k miles on it) I would baby, do neutral coasting, slow starts, you know, the hyper mileage stuff and would consistently average 30mpg.
On road trips where I can find a non-oxygenated premium pump, if I drive 55-60 I will get 32 or so. This is the case with either car.
If I put my foot into either car, I will get 16 - 23 mpg. If I drive light but not baby it, I consistently get ~25 mpg.
Do any of you watch Top Gear? See the comparison between the Prius and the M3? They raced the Prius around their track and the M3 just had to stay on its bumper. The Prius got 17 mpg, the M3, 19 mpg. Its not always what you drive, its how you drive it. So have fun when you want to have fun, and be frugal when you have to. Just don't skip the maintenance.

Other cars
'09 Vibe 33-38mpg (1.8 slow)
'66 Barracuda 10-14 mpg (5.9 fast)
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Coolsaber57
My boat anchors > 00 gle wheels.

However, I have some 16s in the works that should help my problem

Proj. fogs would actually be useful. Way more so than dedicated high-beam projos. Our stock fogs really suck in the....fog...
I was thinking exhaust leak too. Knock sensor? 02 sensors? gotta be something. Everyone should be about 20 easy


I get about 22 mph mixed w/bad knock sensor (too busy/lazy to put it in) and I drive with my floor jack + other crap in my trunk like an idiot..... just remembered why I'm the man.
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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I wish I would get 31.. Depending on where I drive I get between 18 average and 27 average at best
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Originally Posted by Blakfreestyle
I came online to do some research tonight. I don't care if everyone hates me for this but there is NO way that a 4th gen maxima is getting 30+ mpg. I drive a '97 5spd with 103k miles. At 65mph I average 25mpg.

If I were to calculate fuel consumption based upon my odometer, I'd get 35+ mpg.

The explanation is simple. My speedometer is off (overly optimistic) by 10mph. So... when i'm going 65 i'm really going 55 mph. This was confirmed with 2 different gps units that I own. So, to all of you with this 4 cylinder type of fuel mileage, calibrate your speedometer using a gps unit. For anyone wondering, I have 215/45/17 tires, aftermarket rims.

I'm sure the argument will continue but Nissan would love to test the v6 that get's 30mpg from the factory.
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Originally Posted by Blakfreestyle
I came online to do some research tonight. I don't care if everyone hates me for this but there is NO way that a 4th gen maxima is getting 30+ mpg. I drive a '97 5spd with 103k miles. At 65mph I average 25mpg.

If I were to calculate fuel consumption based upon my odometer, I'd get 35+ mpg.

The explanation is simple. My speedometer is off (overly optimistic) by 10mph. So... when i'm going 65 i'm really going 55 mph. This was confirmed with 2 different gps units that I own. So, to all of you with this 4 cylinder type of fuel mileage, calibrate your speedometer using a gps unit. For anyone wondering, I have 215/45/17 tires, aftermarket rims.

I'm sure the argument will continue but Nissan would love to test the v6 that get's 30mpg from the factory.
I have tested mine with GPS. Since I'm using factory tire size, my speedo is always within like 2-3 mph of my GPS confirmed speed. So that means my odometer is off by about 4%, and therefore my mileage is off by 4%. I've gotten 31mpg based off of odometer readings, which is 30mpg after being corrected for the speedometer. I just pulled out my calculator - 215/45R17 tires have an outer diameter of 24.6". 215/55R16 (what I use - factory nissan size) have an outside diameter of 25.3", which means your car thinks it's moving 25.3pi inches per rev, when it's actually only going 24.6pi inches per rev, which explains the huge discrepancy. Factory tire size wont necessarily be perfectly accurate, but I've found it to be within 2-3 miles of the GPS limit at 70mph. It's enough to swing a 1mpg difference, but not a 5mpg difference.



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