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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Stiff Ride

Bought my car pre-lowered with tien Springs
Dude said he liked the suspension tight so i believe he had it set to the tightest but i feel its toooo stiff especially with speed bumps pothole road bumps etc.

he said i you can soften it by turning/spinning/screwing something on the spring or suspension area i'd like to know what and where he's talking about it
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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if it is just on springs, you can't "set" it to the tightest or softest. There's only one setting. If it was a coilover kit that lets you adjust the dampening which is the superstreet or flex, then yes, then you can adjust the dampening on the strut. just go to tein website and you'll be able to find instructions. The tein basic does NOT allow you to adjust the dampening. Or he might have tein springs and adjustable struts not made by tein. We have no way to tell you if this can be done without the brand and model or a pic of the strut
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Check your struts. If the color of the struts is either red, white, or yellow then they are most likely adjustable.
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the help I'll post a pic of the springs struts etc. I do know that there tokico
btw and specifically remember him saying they were adjustable.. Not sayin you guys are wrong or that he's not a liar. Just giving the story at hand.
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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If they are Tokico's then the struts should be white. There are adjustment *****. Lower # on the **** = softer setting.
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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well, gotta remember there is tokico blues too. But the guys are right, if its white(illumina) or red(agx) or yellow(koni), they are adjustables.
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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well, gotta remember there is tokico blues too. But the guys are right, if its white(illumina) or red(agx) or yellow(koni), they are adjustables.
i have red kyb agx with eibach springs even on the softess settin im still stiff
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Cool cool I have the blue ones btw I'll def put up a pic tomm. Morning got preoccupied today with stupid stuff
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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The Tokico HPs (the blue ones) are not adjustable. The reason the ride is so harsh is the Tein S-techs kill all your suspension travel. I have S-techs on my car and they look great, but performance and ride suck.
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^ Couldnt agree anymore. I had stechs, stepped up to Ksports....night and daaaay.!
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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So basically I'm just screwed unless I upgrade or get better springs and shocks
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Night and day??
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Night and day??
i believe he means the difference is night and day
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Originally Posted by luke95gxe
i believe he means the difference is night and day
Old Mar 2, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Where's the picture you said you were going to post?
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tein makes super street coilovers and the flex ones for a 98 maxima??? holy cow... tell me where because i will buy them now! i hate my basic coilovers from them.. they feel great it's just that the back isn't as low as i want it... maybe one more inch.
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Where's the picture you said you were going to post?
Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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taking an uploading right now...
Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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sorry bout the quality had to use camera phone im not home right now so no tools/jack to raise ride/move wheels out the way

http://pbckt.com/sQ.2H8
Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenton3030
sorry bout the quality had to use camera phone im not home right now so no tools/jack to raise ride/move wheels out the way

http://pbckt.com/sQ.2H8
and apparently i have white tokicos in the back
Old Mar 23, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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looking around for struts and springs and saw that tien says the stechs are a 2.2" drop in the front and kinda dont want that low (already have em) then i came across megan springs are these bad springs or not. thinking about using them. i just want a lower car not so much worried about racing or anything just want a daily driver with a lowered sense really.
tooo many terrible roads/potholes/speed bumps/hills/ramps/ always worried scraping and i HATE the THUD feel when i hit a bump on the highway at 65+.
Old Mar 23, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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The best spring strut combo for the 4th gen is H&R / Tokico Illumina.
Spend a bit more $$$ and try Konis, you will need a set of OE front struts for the Koni cartridge. The rears are a direct replacement.
Old Mar 23, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenton3030
looking around for struts and springs and saw that tien says the stechs are a 2.2" drop in the front and kinda dont want that low (already have em) then i came across megan springs are these bad springs or not. thinking about using them. i just want a lower car not so much worried about racing or anything just want a daily driver with a lowered sense really.
tooo many terrible roads/potholes/speed bumps/hills/ramps/ always worried scraping and i HATE the THUD feel when i hit a bump on the highway at 65+
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That's what I wanted too, believe it or not my suspension setup is actually worse than yours, but that "THUD" you hear could be dramatically reduced by the tires you use.

My Michellin PS2s vs. My Potenza S-02s were a night and day difference in ride quality w/o changing the suspension.... In the S-02s I felt every single bump throughout the car, giving it a really rough ride... When I upgraded to the PS2s the ride quality dramatically became MUCH smoother and quieter.

So I assume since you're on 18's your aspect ratio is 35, what tires are you using?
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
^ SE-L's in da hizzousseeee, w00t, w00t!


That's what I wanted too, believe it or not my suspension setup is actually worse than yours, but that "THUD" you hear could be dramatically reduced by the tires you use.

My Michellin PS2s vs. My Potenza S-02s were a night and day difference in ride quality w/o changing the suspension.... In the S-02s I felt every single bump throughout the car, giving it a really rough ride... When I upgraded to the PS2s the ride quality dramatically became MUCH smoother and quieter.

So I assume since you're on 18's your aspect ratio is 35, what tires are you using?
yeah i got 18's the tires i have now although in need of new one badly.
are 235/40/18
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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not trying to sound cheap but those H&R springs are $350+ [too steep]
i know.. get what you pay for but jeeze
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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$213.00 at Shox.com
TireRack might have them pretty cheap as well

Keep your eyes on the FS forum in here for used ones cheap.
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Or you can go with progress. I have them and absolutely love them.
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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H&R's FTW

And the saying you get what you pay for was never more true than on Maxima suspension.
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Is it hard to install struts and springs. Is it pro reccomended
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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its easy and should be a good learning experience for you, you will learn a lot
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by goomzthegeneral
its easy and should be a good learning experience for you, you will learn a lot
Okay but is your easy the same as my easy I'm thinking it's take off wheels and unbolt then bolt back on are there any special things I should know or specific procedures or tools
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1/2" ratchet set up to a 19mm, axle removal socket, flat wrenches up to a 19mm, spring compressor which can be rented at autozone or any parts store that rents tools, i think that covers it.
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Just read a simple breakdown on howto. seems do-able. But it says will need an alignment is that becuz it WILL get messed up or it's just a precautionary thing
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by goomzthegeneral
1/2" ratchet set up to a 19mm, axle removal socket, flat wrenches up to a 19mm, spring compressor which can be rented at autozone or any parts store that rents tools, i think that covers it.
Nice that should save me some money on paying for labor
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alignment is recommended after, but they are cheap, no more than 100 bucks. i dropped a previous car and needed an alignment.
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i had tokico spring and (blue) shocks, then tein s-tech springs and kyb gr-2 shocks, and the energy suspension polyurethane hyper flex kit (upper and lower front and rear control arm bushings, front torsion arm bushings, and bump stops) it rode like a dropped car, but not too stiff.
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Okay Ty very much for all the help much appreciated
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You have HP's up front. They are stock replacement, just a bit stiffer than the stock Tokicos. You have Illuminas out back. Adjusting them really wont help the ride as you have no suspension travel. S Techs are the worst spring out there. Way low, way soft. ANY spring with more than a 1.5" drop is too much with out shortened Konis. Sell the HPs if they arent already blown and stechs. Get Tokico, H Techs, or H&R springs. Keep the Illuminas if they arent blown other wise toss em. Front Konis shortened are the only way to roll.
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Originally Posted by JSutter
You have HP's up front. They are stock replacement, just a bit stiffer than the stock Tokicos. You have Illuminas out back. Adjusting them really wont help the ride as you have no suspension travel. S Techs are the worst spring out there. Way low, way soft. ANY spring with more than a 1.5" drop is too much with out shortened Konis. Sell the HPs if they arent already blown and stechs. Get Tokico, H Techs, or H&R springs. Keep the Illuminas if they arent blown other wise toss em. Front Konis shortened are the only way to roll.
i would like to get new struts too. what do reccomend for struts
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Koni all the way

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