hey orgers
so i was at my father in-laws house today. He had to leave for a min and backed into my max. he has insurance and is filling a claim so i can get it fixed through his insurance my question for you guys is this . i was thinking i could maybe fix this by myself an pocket the money from his insurance company. does anyone have experience with doing this body work if anyone knows of suggestions or tips or tricks i would love to hear them. heres a pic

 

A ding king wont cut it here. Rear quarter damage is the worst cosmetic damage there is. I know youre not going to cut your quarter out and weld in a new one so youre going to straighten out the damage. If you want it to look right you will need some specialized tools like a stud gun and slide hammer and a few different hammers and dollies. Then have fun with the body filler and sanding blocks to get it laser straight. Finally the paint has to be blended in with the c pilar, trunk, bumper, and possibly the door to look decent. Finally add a new pin stripe. Youre better off repainting the whole car to be honest.

 

Not what you want to hear, but it is true. As I have the same problem, I was looking at aftermarket bumpers that cover that part of the body. Your damage is a little bit higher on the body line than mine, so I'm not sure it would cover it well.

 

i'd leave this one to the professionals

 

awful spot.

 

That actually doesn't look to bad and most of it could probably be pushed out from the inside. It won't be perfect but IMO isn't worth getting fixed the right way.

 

can you get to the inside of our qp? i have never tried, but itd assume it was spot welded all the way around? if there are access points you could definitely make it look better than what it is.

 

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have the exact same problem...same spot mines a bit worst but any info would help. was thinkin about taking it to the body guy b4 he leaves for Peru but im not in the market for paying anyones ticket bck hom

 

well guys after driving to kentucky and back and lookin at that dent and hearing my wife tell me how sh**ty it looks it going to the body shop tomorrow i will report back the cost father inlaws insurance is paying for it and i get a rental for it so i just want it fixed

off topic here that max did great going from richmond va to kentucky and back no problems and it handeled climbing them mountains very well although my ears didnt

 

Description: 1995 Nissan Maxima GXE Vehicle Production Date: 4/94
Body Style: 4D Sed Drive Train: 3.0L Inj 6 Cyl 5M
VIN: JN1CA21D6ST017493 License: XMP7827 VA
Mileage: 175,495
OEM/ALT: A Search Code: RICHMOND1
Color: BEIGE
Options: PASSENGER AIRBAG, DRIVER SIDE AIRBAG, POWER LOCK, POWER WINDOW, POWER STEERING
POWER BRAKE, REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER, MANUAL AIR CONDITION, CRUISE CONTROL
TILT STEERING COLUMN, CASSETTE PLAYER
Line Entry Labor Line Item Part Type/ Dollar Labor
Item Number Type Operation Description Part Number Amount Units
Quarter Panel
1 401230 BDY REPAIR L Quarter Outer Panel Existing 13.0* #
2 REF REFINISH L Quarter Panel Outside C 2.4
3 401267 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL L Quarter Mudguard 0.3
Rear Lamps
4 402142 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL L Rear Combination Lamp 0.4
Rear Bumper
5 401515 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL Rear Bumper Assy 1.0
ADDITIONAL OPERATIONS
6 REF ADD'L OPR Clear Coat 1.0
Additional Costs & Materials
7 ADD'L COST Paint/Materials 102.00 *
MANUAL ENTRIES
8 900500 BDY * REMOVE/REPLACE CORROSION PROTECTION ** Non-OEM 12.00 * 0.2*
9 900500 BDY * REMOVE/REPLACE CAR COVER ** Non-OEM 10.00 * 0.0*
10 900500 BDY * REMOVE/REPLACE HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL Sublet 3.50 * 0.0*
11 900500 BDY * ADD'L LABOR OP ADHESIVE STRIPES FIRST PANEL Sublet 20.00 * 0.0*
* - Judgment Item
# - Labor Note Applies
C - Included in Clear Coat Calc
ESTIMATE RECALL NUMBER: 01/07/2011 12:44:18 11-3700260-02
Mitchell Data Version: OEM: NOV_10_V0105 UltraMate is a Trademark of Mitchell International
MAPP:NOV_10_V0102 Copyright (C) 1994 - 2010 Mitchell International Page 1 of 3
UltraMate Version: 7.0.224 All Rights Reserved
Date: 01/07/2011 05:18 PM

Prior Damage:
trunk spoiler peeling


Estimate Totals
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________
Add'l
Labor Sublet
I. Labor Subtotals Units Rate Amount Amount Totals
Body 14.9 42.00 0.00 20.00 645.80
Refinish 3.4 42.00 0.00 0.00 142.80
Non-Taxable Labor 788.60
Labor Summary 18.3 788.60
II. Part Replacement Summary Amount
Taxable Parts 12.00
Sales Tax @ 5.000% 0.60
Non-Taxable Parts 13.50
Total Replacement Parts Amount 26.10
III. Additional Costs Amount
Taxable Costs 102.00
Sales Tax @ 5.000% 5.10
Total Additional Costs 107.10
Paint Material Method: Rates
Init Rate = 30.00
IV. Adjustments Amount
Insurance Deductible 0.00
Customer Responsibility 0.00
I. Total Labor: 788.60
II. Total Replacement Parts: 26.10
III. Total Additional Costs: 107.10
Gross Total: 921.80
IV. Total Adjustments: 0.00
Net Total: 921.80
THIS ESTIMATE HAS BEEN PREPARED BASED ON THE USE OF AUTOMOTIVE PARTS NOT
MADE BY THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER. PARTS USED IN THE REPAIR OF YOUR
VEHICLE BY OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER ARE REQUIRED TO BE AT
LEAST EQUAL IN LIKE, KIND AND QUALITY IN TERMS OF FIT, QUALITY AND
PERFORMANCE TO THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER PARTS THEY ARE REPLACING.
Point(s) of Impact
7 Left Rear Corner (P)
Alt. Location: BODY SHOP-----
Inspection Site: HALEY BODY SHOP
VA
Inspection Date: 01/07/2011
Body Shop: HALEY BODY SHOP

SO THIS IS THE ESTIMATE TO FIX THE DENT

 

$800 in labor. Fun times.

 

yeah crazy 25 in parts the rest labor

 

sutter is right i do body work and unless u have the tools just go thru insurance has to be done right not worth trying to hack job it and make some cash

 

i can tell you i had similar damage a few months back and they had to blend the door and i had the rear bumper re-painted while it was off the car anyway. my damage was higher and closer to the gas tank, i was able to pop off the inside trunk piece and hit it with my hand a few times and it popped out a bit of the dent, your damage however is much lower and requires special tools to straighten.

 

If you've never done body work before, don't even try you are just going to fuct it up even more.

You'll need special tools to pull that dent out. Slide hammer or weld in dent pullers. Then body filler and paint to match.

 

stud gun and slide hammer yeah. first youd have to get down behind that spot with a spoon prolly from inside the trunk.

 

What a complete bogus estimate. Obviously he doesn't want your business.

Line one 13hours to repair the qtr? What is this shop smoking?

That dent should be a 4 or 5 hrs repair at best.
The body labor should be around $350, not $645

Go get another est. at a different shop.

 

Most shops will over inflate to rape insurance. It's how they make $.

Actual cost of repairs at most $500.

 

allthough i would agree, my quarter panel was like 1,000 worth of my 1,800.00 total repair bill and i can tell you the paint was at least half that, prime, prep sanding paint, clear, polish. thats how they make their ( cough, bull$hit, cough ) money......

 

i went in the shop yesterday it looks like they pulled the dent and then used body filler on it im not sure i have a feeling that they r going to have a hard time blending the paint i dont want mis-matched paint so if it is what should i do if it doesnt match? and is body filler a good idea i have kyb AGX struts on ebach springs some bumbs are rough will this cause the body filler to fall out? any input please

 

Umm no..

The insurance adjuster will write the estimate that the shop will get paid from.

The days of body shops getting over on ins. companys are long gone my friend.


Regards,
Proline Body & Chassis
Elmwood Park, NJ

 

but hes talkin out of his *** on the internet. hes gotta be right.

 

if the body fillers falls out or the paint doesnt match, they are completely liable. make sure you open your mouth if you see a problem with the paint... the body filler shouldnt be a problem unless they put like an inch of that **** on there with ****ty prep work. how would they have fixed this without body filler?

 

weld a new panel in? thats what i have been told is the right way to do it just want it done right is all the insurance company said this shop garentees the work for the life of the car thats why i went to them but the estimate says the have to remove the bumper and tail lights when i was in there yesterday they didnt have the tails out and the bumper was just pulled down so it makes me wonder seems there cuttin corners

 

welding a new one in would definitely take longer and cost more.

 

thats bull, my insurance company wrote an estimate for damge to my fender and the body shop whined and argued that they cant do a good job unless they blend the door and hood, even though i informed the a$$holes that they had been repainted 4 months prior to the damage they still insisted that the paint would'nt blend, scam artists. i dont know a body shop that has'nt tried to rip off the ins. ever. i had 1 cool guy that cut corners when i informed him i would pay straight cash, and he did a great job.

 

Adjuster wrote up damage to my Audi A8 for around $3000

Body shop requested $5000 for proper repair.

Insurance paid $5000

Maybe you are in the wrong business.

 

well guys got the car fixed sorry it took so long in postin the out come i just moved from richmond va to owensboro kentucky so its been hectic let me start out by sayin i will never take my car there again when i got the car back the bumper on the passenger side was missin bolts and flapping in the wind so i said something and they put bolts in an fixed it . then the battery was dead so i had to get them to jump it. after that i got to wondering what else they may have not done right so i put the car on the lift and took a look and they just bent a broke the bumper support brackets because there were rusted nuts and bolts and the drivers side was missing the same bolts that the passenger side was missing i took it right back up there and showed the dude and he said it was prior and there wasnt anything that he could do so i raised all sorts of he** with him till he got the shop manager out there and he agreed with me said a tech prolly got rushed and screwed up and he would order all the brackets and get it right well that took almost 2 weeks so needless to say i will never recomend them to anyone heres a pic of the fixed damage

 

A dent on a used car?? Yeah it sux to look at...but i wd have jus pocket the money or bout som coilovers lol

At least its fixed and thats all that counts

 

lol paint doesnt exactly match

 

definatly just the pic. Reflection of the ground. If were actually THAT mismatched i'm sure he would have noticed and brought it to their attention

 

i dunno man. looks like the bumper is clearly a little different.

 

i see this all the time, the blame the age of the vehicle on not being able to blend the paint right. that does'nt match, but that color is hard to match, and plastic always looks a little different then the metal. here's my quarter panel repair......

 

Just be glad you didnt get thrown around like my Max and I did on vetrans day. Got hit on back pass wheel. Got lucky on price to fix axle and strut so shes back on the road but I have an eyesore dent that needs pulled out on rear quarter. Afraid to take her in to get the estimate. I got the ticket and insurance said have fun buddy. Guess it doesnt matter anymore if someone is speeding and hits you while your taking a left turn.

 

I got in an accident with my first max. But i was the person goin straight. The other person was making a turn. I won the claim. It dont matter man, if a person goin straight they got the right of way. Always. Sorry to hear the bad news bout your max. .

 

/******reply*** sorry for bumping a 2 year old thread but im very curious about this and dont have much time to go to a body shop to ask for a specific estimate


so it was $920 to repair the rear quater panel? i have the dent on the driver side as well and its the Only dent on my car, it annoys me so i want it to get it fixed. so will u think it will cost same amount as urs?

i'll give u what mine looks like, by the way this dent is weird.. at times it does not look that bad, but at times when the car is pointed to a certain angle or direction, it looks like CRAP, mostly when its very sunny! I'll Give you one of my examples of when it LOOKS very bad, and WHEN it doesnt look too bad

 

you do realize you bumped an almost 2 y/o thread, right?

 

yeah i know, but im just curious how much it would be depending on the pictures i posted, since this guy said it was 900$ to repair his at the same exact spot i have it.

 

to be honest, it depends on the shop. if they want to blend the door and the rear bumper you could spend more than that. plus, alot of shops don't want to mess with an old car like ours cause they'll argue the paint is hard to match. which adds time and $$$ to final repair so they'll bump up the price in hopes you'll walk away.

 

honestly i dont care about the paint match as long as its not a different color, so i could tell the body shop i dont give a crap just fix my rear quater panel and u get my money, my paint is in great condition all i care about is the area that is damaged

also i dont see why they wouldn't want to spend time fixing it, if they get money they will do it lol (money can make anything possible) , its like saying when people spend money to rebuild a 1970 mustang or somthing, u know what im saying?