puremax

Anyone owned both a WSP and a Cattman Y pipe? Just wondering cuzz they could tell me there personal differences and which one they liked better.

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Kashoggio

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we do have this nice thing called a search.

Sprint

iTrader: (10)

I have the 3rd Gen Cattman Y pipe and i used to own the 1st Gen Warpspeed pipe..

now my Warpspeed pipe wasn't all that.. but .. that might not be accurate information to you as warpspeed has improved their product line recently...

I love my cattman pipe.. nice quiet.. very powerfull

puremax

I want to know if people had both. Take a hike.

Kashoggio

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ouch, now that hurts, I am goin to go cry now

Shadow

iTrader: (15)

Well, if you had searched, you would have found the exact answer you're looking for. In fact, Breaux124 even made a nice writeup about the whole thing which you would have found.

Kashoggio

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Sexima

sheesh.. don't respond if you don't want to guys..
don't have to be mean about it...

bmfjeep

We own a first generation Cattman Y pipe which we tested our first generation Y pipe against, I heard our first generation Y pipe recently also outperformed the 2nd generation Cattman Y pipe too. Dan and I personally use the WarpSpeed Y pipes on our 1993SE and our 1996SE Maxima's. I have a non-mandrel bent aluminized steel prototype on mine and Dan has an aluminized steel mandrel bent on his. Neither much louder than stock, no hiss or bees in a can sound.

I got subframes, Dan does not and he is not happy about it. Maybe for Christmas.

Dallas
WarpSpeed Performance

puremax

Hello!!!! Being lazy pays off now!

Shadow

iTrader: (15)

But has anyone given you a straight answer to your question? Everyone kind of dances around the subject. breaux actually had dyno comparisons and everything. Right now all you have is Sprint saying his WSP wasn't great, but that their new ones are better, but he's not sure. And you have one of the WSP owners saying that their pipes are better. Is that an unbiased opinion? Call Cattman and ask him which pipe he thinks is better, bet his answer will be different than Dallas'.

breaux124

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I've had both, and I don't work for either Cattman or Warpspeed. Does that make my opinion the only truely "unbiased" opinion?

I even have photos and dyno charts to prove my claims, so I guess that gives credit to my belief.

puremax

la la la

puremax

Well, which one did you like better?

Craig Mack

I just got a WSP Mandrel Bent, aluminized 2.5" Y in the mail and it arrived today. From the way it looks the bends are extremely smooth, (I cant see any bend lines at all), and it is really light-weight.


WSP even called us to make sure we got it. Now thats what I call good business.

vinny1978

wsp gives good business and their pipes are great. i had a problem with ccattman sent it back got a wsp and it fit perfect. great performance with the greddy.

Dave B

I just installed my Warpspeed non-mandrel bent Y-pipe and I love it. It's a 2.5" setup vs my old Stillen 2 1/8" setup. The none mandrel bend is hardly noticeable in appearance. I'm very impressed. I had to jiggle it a little to get it to fit, but otherwise it fits perfectly. It's not a bad buy for less than $200.


Dave

black019

quote of the week right there

puremax

excellent, excellent.

Craig Mack

Ya. If you don't have alot of $ to spend, or even if you do, I recommend Warpspeed. So far the least if any amount of fitment problems, no beez-in-the-can sound, and the lowest prices. Tell 'em Craig sen't ya

MaximaRider

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Me gusta el Cattman Ypipe

skeelo34

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I have a cattman ypipe that i got on the group deal. I HATE this thing! Its definitely a good performance mod, but it doubled the interior noise and car vibrates at every light like the idle is too low or something. It just really sucks, my old 87 cavalier didnt vibrate this much. The guy at the shop told me i may have messed up motor mounts because that mesh cover on the stock ypipe was messed up (like coming off). Could this be causing perhaps the engine and the exhaust to vibrate? I dont think its hitting anything, but im not sure. Do i need to break it the pipe in for a while? i only have it for a few days.

Dave B

With my Stillen pipe there was some vibration, but hardly annoying. With the Warpspeed pipe there is nothing. It feels stock. I think the reason the Stillen vibrated more (and maybe the Cattman too) is that the Stillen/Cattman flex section is too short. The Warpspeed flex is a bit longer and fatter than the Stillen. The Warpspeeds flex length is about the same as stock. I think the extra length absorbs of the engine vibration.


Dave

FahCue

have you tried adjusting your idle???

I reccomend the cattman pipe personally. I had the warpspeed pipe and I currently have the cattman pipe and I like the cattman much better. I like the sound it gives the car a lot better than the warpspeed. The WS pipe is good if you want to keep a decent level of volume where the cattman will step it up a notch. as far as power, I couldnt honestly tell you which has more as I have never dyno'd or anything. So if you want to be cheap and quiet go for ws if you want a little more expensive (but there is a reputation behind cattman for quality) and a little more noise then go for cattman.

breaux124

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I had issues with Warpspeed's Ypipe and no problems with Cattmans, so I prefer Cattmans. But this is my opinion based on my experiences.

Here's my review:
http://www.bryanb.com/site/maxima/ypipes/review.html


And here is why I don't like Warpspeed,
This is a copy of all the emails to and from warpspeed:
http://www.bryanb.com/site/maxima/ypipes/warpspeed.doc

All of my experiences came from the very beginning of warpspeed as a company. It seems since that in time they've improved and changed alot, so this information may be outdated, but this was my experience.

puremax

Dude! I feel bad for you. You got worked by WSP. They said they were going to give you a new Y pipe but didn't. What they did was uncalled for. You waited for months. The BS that happened to you, no one should go threw that, you get so annoyed and ****ed off. I have gone though similar things. I am convinced. I will probably get a Cattman Y pipe now after reading that. What you said at the end of the e-mail was very good. Thanks for informing me of this.

PureMax

Sonic

No bend lines=mandrel bend.

Craig Mack

Sonic

Craig Mack

Sonic

Wipe off your forehead. Anyways off to work. Have a good night.

Craig Mack

Bye Gregory!!

puremax

Guess they changed their ways. Still getting a Cattman.

PureMax

Dave B

Hmmm....nearly every person that has gotten a Cattman Y-pipe has had to beat the pipe to get to fit. Some people have had to literally bend the pipe to get it to fit. I suggest doing a search about Cattman Y-pipes. Please read up. Out of the 4 y-pipes available, Cattman's a by far the highest number of fitment issues.

As for the WSP vs Bryan saga, you should also hear the WSP comments to the situation. You should always here both sides before passing judgement. I'm not saying either was right, but please look at both sides.


Dave

nismomaxse97

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Ask your boyfriend

Craig Mack

Warpspeed has very good business manners. It's a family business, and a damn good one.

puremax

Don't ever post like this again. I will tap dance on your brain, you little puke.

breaux124

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In the beginning I was unfair towards Warpspeed because of obvious personal issues with their company, but since I've always been truthful and honest.

I've even admitted that the Warpspeed Y-pipe did have a perfect fit while my Cattman required some muscle behind it. I still feel that it was inexcusable for what I was put through, but I do believe that Warpspeed learned from that mistake. It does seem from all the other opinion of maxima owners that Warpspeed has advanced as a true company and no longer a "start-up" as when I dealt with them.

If you look at the people who have had issues with Warpspeed, it was in the very early stages of them as a company. And since that time, I can't remember seeing a single complaint. So people should look around and draw their own conclusions based on them as a company today.

Even though I still hold a grudge against them, I still have to recognize the effort they are putting towards the maxima community. It seems that they've matured as a company, and hopefully overcome any and all service issues.