Sup, my friend has a 99 grand am and he's always bragging how his car can smoke any import. Well I want to prove him wrong!! I was wondering what u guys think which car has the advantage?? He's got a K&N filter and i got a CAI....if it matters, my car is red
Thanks!!!!

 

Auto you will beat him
5spd you will spank the living **** out of him

 

stick or auto (both of you)? what are your other mods? If you're stick and he's auto I would say it'll be close with you on top. auto to auto it's a tossup. you can guess what happens if you are auto and he's manual and knows how to drive.

 

lol..we both have autos...they dont make sticks for grand ams..do they?

 

I'm gonna agree with sprint. maybe not so much blow him away, but maybe 1 or 2 car lengths by 100mph

 

Uh, those things are over a second slower than auto maxima's.

Rape him you better.

 

Is his Grand AM a V6? What model is it? How many exhaust tips???? I think the double exhaust with 2 tips on each side is for the GT's, they got like 170 hp. But they are slow. you'll beat him regardless of the model...

 

lmao..i gotta tell him..washing his pos every other day does not make it any faster lol

 

hmph... I knew they were slow, but damn! time to cruise

 

he's got a green GT...2 exaust tips a h*e could give he*d to

 

 

Yea what the heck are you talkin about Ginuwin.

I am ashamed that we are comparing our cars to friggen Grand Am's. The GTP in speed, yes, but our car is far superior to any Pontiac in every catogory other than Speed, but also speed for most.

Pontiac's continously have the worst crash test ratings, cheep interiors, cheep engine builds, ect. ....Dude, even comparing a friggen dae-woo to any pontiac would be an embarrassment to them!

 

lol, i think he's in for a suprise

 

So when are you racing him?

 

maybe when the snow clears or..its christmas i could race him in the mall parking lot

 

race him high end, they're like speed limited to somewhere to 100s

 

now that i think of it..they only go up to 110 hahahahahahah!!

 

Who cares who goes faster..... the max will smoke the Grand Am on looks alone. Kinda embarassed to comepare the max to a "Not So Grand" Am.

Anyway, smoke him anyways.

 

Grand Am GTs with the 3.4L do 0-60 in 7.5 with an auto...

 

More along the lines of the high 7's (7.7ish)

 

Motortrend... they tested one last year

 

I edited my post Motor Trend also tested the '95 Maxima's at 7.3 0-60. Obviously the '99's are slower but just wanted to point that out.

 

I just doubled checked... I found 7.7 I also found a Supercharged GrandAm
http://www.motortrend.com/feb00/pont...ntiacga_f.html

0-60 in 5.9 for a 5spd and 6.6 for the auto... too bad they dont make it

 

And 5.9 for a supercharged auto max and very low 5's for the manual maxima.

 

ahhhh yes but you could SC a grand am for about the price of a NA Max

 

Don't make me get into the reliability/quality issues again.

 

Haha I just looked up that supercharged grand am they tested: 262hp and 289 ft-lb tq. They did 0-60 in 5.9 and 1/4mile in 14.9 at 91.2... those numbers are so weak for a car with that much power. God GM family cars suck.

 

haha oh well...

 

Dude, how the hell is that weak? Motor Trend tested a 260HP CL Type S and it did 6.4! Also, 5.9 0-60 is faster than a 2nd Gen MR2 Turbo or a Porsche 928 (that's a V-8 RWD sports car right there), faster than a 2nd Gen RX7 Turbo...
Admittedly, the 1/4 Mi. is a little slow (should be nearer 14.5 or something), but this car is obviously quick off the line.

 

How is it weak? The car has 70 more HP than me and 80 ft-lb more torque and I'd destroy it. 91.2mph trap speed? WTF? Stock auto maximas trap damn near that high. Thats how.

 

Here is my opinion:

My Dad owned an Oldsmobile Delta 98 back in 1986. Within 2 years it had MAJOR electrical problems, and the starter, ignition, and distributor all blew up.

I myself owned a '92 Camaro Z28 25th Ann. Edition.

This is what problems it had from the time I owned it, 1995-2000

4 Engines in 5 years
6 Starters in 5 years
3 heater Cores
2 Distributors
4 Distributor Caps
1 Steering Knuckle

And here is the reason I bought a Maxima:

I was trying to choose between the Accord and a Maxima. I knew the numbers on the Maxima for pure performance were somewhat better, but i wanted a REALLY reliable car after dealing with the Chevy. I called a friend who owned a 1995 Accord. he said the car ran really well, but he had to have the Fuel Pump replaced and the Tranny replaced only 1 year after he purchased it. He got both things fixed under warranty.

I called a buddy who had a '96 5-speed SE. I asked him the same question. he had 40,000 more miles on his car, as the Accord guy didn't drive much and this guy does sales, and drives 25+k per year.

He said: Well, I once took a corner so hard the water spilled out of my battery. Does that count as a problem? I said with a laugh "no, what else" he said nothing. He NEVER has had (and to this day has not had with 100k+ miles) a problem.

I've had my '97 GXE for a year and a half now and had no issues.

Faster, more reliable, more stylish. Take your pick, buddy.

 

You know what's funny? The Grand Am has a 160 mph speedo. Yeah, right.

DW

 

Jeez, my '91 could beat that... I saw ~123 last night...

 

I stomped multiple Grand ****z with my completely stock (except for a Royal Tissue Box) 97 Auto Max..... Just race him and smack dat byatch up fo' da Max community!

 

Ever notice how all Pontiacs have the same buttons in the interiors?

GTP's are fast and theres a heavily modded local that i hear can roast em from a highway roll but thats about all they are.

Also, some of the Grand Prixs do come in stick as far as i know.

You will waste him with no problems at all. Let him get the jump just to rub it in more.

 

4cyl Grand Ams are available with stick the 2.4 is a noisy engine but a relatively capable engine, in the Sunfire/Cavalier it'll scoot em to 0-60 in 7.9 hehe
now the post about the reliability of GM cars? ok older ones yes... but I've driven Malibus, had GTPs for monthes, and my sister owns a Cavalier... my sister hasnt had ONE problem with her '99 Cavalier thats more than I can say about my Maxima... and the quality of materials? My fckn 4th gen has her beat oh yea baby... by an inch. The '99 Malibu? great car for the money and only had one problem with it- a stuck power window switch... the GTP? no problems none... yes it is a 2000 so we'll see in the future
oh yea... the Grand Am I drove had better steering than my Maxima

5.9 for an SC 260hp G/A? who can say crap about that? maybe the car is not as nice as ours but hell thats pretty damn good, I'm sure they could do better, but with 260 SC FWD hp, I'm pretty sure launching it would be a little bit harder than with the Maxima

and 160mph speedo? my Max has a 140 but its supposed to be limited to 115 or something around there, the G/A just is limited to 110

now for being a 'crappy' American sedan... 0-60 in 7.7 stock isnt so bad... and for thousands and thousands cheaper its not bad at all... I cant wait for the kill story where a Chevy Malibu beats a Maxima... It feels stronger than our Max off the line and I know it can atleast pull high 7 second 0-60s... not far off the auto max

but i guess they're just crappy American cars... dude screw my 240 project I'mma buy me a Malibu or a G/A and give it some bolt ons and go hunting Maximas

 

I have to admit I don't know jack about the newer cars, but my Camaro ran fine for 2 years before it started choking, so only time will tell.

Besides, my Max was assembled in NJ, and Chevy's are assembled in Mexico....don't ya just LOVe NAFTA?

IanS

 

Man if you are going American, get the Buick Grand National turbo V6. It's actually so fast, I could overlook the interior!

 

haha but imagine how embarrassed someone on the org would be if they got killed by a Chevy Malibu on hubcaps it would be priceless maybe they would stop talking crap about how ****ty American cars are

 

thanx guys..it feels good hearing good things about ur car..anyway i raced him and i just totally killed him...by like 2 1/2 car lengths.

it was light to light race..about a half mile. i'd like to hear him talk smack about imports again! haha

p.s: grand am's are terrible! NO LIE