Seeking performance help and suggestions
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Seeking performance help and suggestions
Hey guys. I've been back and forth between keeping or getting rid of my Maxi and finally decided to stick it out. Basically I want to make it a little bit quicker and more fun to drive. All I have done performance wise is a high flow cat and cat back exhaust. Reason being I didn't want to dump more money into it if I had decided to get a new car.
I plan on a y-pipe and CAI but I figured that I should post here to get more input for other performance mod upgrades. I don't want to do anything crazy like a turbo, supercharger, 3.5L swap, 250 shot of NOS... etc. Any advice or recommendations would be much appreciated. Just looking to get some extra horses and response out of my Max
I plan on a y-pipe and CAI but I figured that I should post here to get more input for other performance mod upgrades. I don't want to do anything crazy like a turbo, supercharger, 3.5L swap, 250 shot of NOS... etc. Any advice or recommendations would be much appreciated. Just looking to get some extra horses and response out of my Max
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Buy my vafc2 for 150. Get a wideband and tune to around 13.0 afr and watch the powerband wake up. My almost stock 3.0 was running at 10.0 af at wot before..... even mildly modded and stock cars can benefit from a tune.
also because youre in the FOURTH GEN SECTION and youre asking a question about a 2004 maxima.
bottom line youre a ****in mess dude. you need to ask your question in the appropriate place.
Hey guys. I've been back and forth between keeping or getting rid of my Maxi and finally decided to stick it out. Basically I want to make it a little bit quicker and more fun to drive. All I have done performance wise is a high flow cat and cat back exhaust. Reason being I didn't want to dump more money into it if I had decided to get a new car.
I plan on a y-pipe and CAI but I figured that I should post here to get more input for other performance mod upgrades. I don't want to do anything crazy like a turbo, supercharger, 3.5L swap, 250 shot of NOS... etc. Any advice or recommendations would be much appreciated. Just looking to get some extra horses and response out of my Max
I plan on a y-pipe and CAI but I figured that I should post here to get more input for other performance mod upgrades. I don't want to do anything crazy like a turbo, supercharger, 3.5L swap, 250 shot of NOS... etc. Any advice or recommendations would be much appreciated. Just looking to get some extra horses and response out of my Max
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Problem #1:
I just purchased a 2004 Maxima. The owner left the country and hadn't turned the car on for a whole year and a half. I turned it on for the first time and the SES light came on. A friend of mine used a check computer device and was able to shut it off, but when I turn the car off and then back on, the SES lights comes back on. This all happened yesterday. Any advice?
Problem #2:
When I turned the car on yesterday morning, I heard a sound come from under the hood as if something popped. Then a cloud of white smoke started coming out of the pipes in the back of the car. Later on in the day, I noticed that the radiator coolant was leaking from the top left and right hand corners of the radiator. A friend of mine said to replace the radiator for about $200 bucks. And input?
Btw, she has 206 on the dash..
I just purchased a 2004 Maxima. The owner left the country and hadn't turned the car on for a whole year and a half. I turned it on for the first time and the SES light came on. A friend of mine used a check computer device and was able to shut it off, but when I turn the car off and then back on, the SES lights comes back on. This all happened yesterday. Any advice?
Problem #2:
When I turned the car on yesterday morning, I heard a sound come from under the hood as if something popped. Then a cloud of white smoke started coming out of the pipes in the back of the car. Later on in the day, I noticed that the radiator coolant was leaking from the top left and right hand corners of the radiator. A friend of mine said to replace the radiator for about $200 bucks. And input?
Btw, she has 206 on the dash..
To the OP. I'd recommend a 00VI for some extra top end power. Flowing out the exhaust with y-pipe, headers, catback etc helps a lot too. Get a tune after all that and you'll probably have the power you're looking for without sacrificing fuel economy.
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Last edited by Ryan95gle; Oct 25, 2011 at 01:10 PM.
I'm pretty much in the same boat as Mr. Br3tt. I was wondering....NWP spacers AND 00VI? From what I've read the combo is a bit untried and tested because the spacers assume an OEM manifold, be it a 4th gen or 5th gen, not a hybrid which some combos of the 00VI makes your 4th gen.
What say you guys?
DW
What say you guys?
DW
I'm pretty much in the same boat as Mr. Br3tt. I was wondering....NWP spacers AND 00VI? From what I've read the combo is a bit untried and tested because the spacers assume an OEM manifold, be it a 4th gen or 5th gen, not a hybrid which some combos of the 00VI makes your 4th gen.
What say you guys?
DW
What say you guys?
DW
The spacers add power by lengthening intake running AND cooling intake temps. (I believe the formula was 8Degrees F =1 WHP correct me if I'm wrong) With 00vi already being the coldest running intake manifold for any VQ, the only benefit would be the spacer on the LIM and MAYBE the TB. it yeilds what 9-10 whp on the USIM and 12ftlbs. So, I could maybe see 5-6 whp and 6-7 ftlbs on an 00vi.
of course IMO and not backed by hard data ie. dynos
he is responding to the original poster. no one is going to answer your THREAD HIJACK. mainly because you just hijacked this dudes ****ing thread.
also because youre in the FOURTH GEN SECTION and youre asking a question about a 2004 maxima.
bottom line youre a ****in mess dude. you need to ask your question in the appropriate place.
also because youre in the FOURTH GEN SECTION and youre asking a question about a 2004 maxima.
bottom line youre a ****in mess dude. you need to ask your question in the appropriate place.
This plus an 00vi like everyone else said. I have a complete kit sitting here if you want.
Vafc2, wideband, 00VI. If you have a 4th gen and haven't done the 00VI you are just so far behind IMO and FULL 00VI not that half assed upper only, get the injectors, fuel rail, LIM, TB the whole she-bang!
BTW IMHO the spacers are not worth it for the vq30de your better off spending the money on the 00VI.
BTW IMHO the spacers are not worth it for the vq30de your better off spending the money on the 00VI.
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Basically what I am asking is should I look for spacers designed for the 00VI manifold instead of the stock one in my car already.
So should I ditch the spacers and if I get the complete 00VI? Sounds like I'll be getting more bang for my buck out of a whole new manifold instead of just getting the spacers.
I will definitely keep this in mind I honestly just what to make my Max more responsive and fun to drive. Every little bit counts 
I'm looking to stay away from nitrous I am mostly looking for any engine modifications. What kind of power am I going to be looking to gain from the wideband?
Vafc2, wideband, 00VI. If you have a 4th gen and haven't done the 00VI you are just so far behind IMO and FULL 00VI not that half assed upper only, get the injectors, fuel rail, LIM, TB the whole she-bang!
BTW IMHO the spacers are not worth it for the vq30de your better off spending the money on the 00VI.
BTW IMHO the spacers are not worth it for the vq30de your better off spending the money on the 00VI.
I'm looking to stay away from nitrous I am mostly looking for any engine modifications. What kind of power am I going to be looking to gain from the wideband?
Basically what I am asking is should I look for spacers designed for the 00VI manifold instead of the stock one in my car already.
So should I ditch the spacers and if I get the complete 00VI? Sounds like I'll be getting more bang for my buck out of a whole new manifold instead of just getting the spacers.
YES
I will definitely keep this in mind I honestly just what to make my Max more responsive and fun to drive. Every little bit counts
I'm looking to stay away from nitrous I am mostly looking for any engine modifications. What kind of power am I going to be looking to gain from the wideband?
A wideband measures your A/F ratio so you can then tune accordingly with your vafc2 thats one point of the vafc2, the second point is to use the "vtech controller" that was designed for hondas as an rpm switch to control when the VI on the manifold opens.
So should I ditch the spacers and if I get the complete 00VI? Sounds like I'll be getting more bang for my buck out of a whole new manifold instead of just getting the spacers.
YES
I will definitely keep this in mind I honestly just what to make my Max more responsive and fun to drive. Every little bit counts
I'm looking to stay away from nitrous I am mostly looking for any engine modifications. What kind of power am I going to be looking to gain from the wideband?
A wideband measures your A/F ratio so you can then tune accordingly with your vafc2 thats one point of the vafc2, the second point is to use the "vtech controller" that was designed for hondas as an rpm switch to control when the VI on the manifold opens.
U have to have a wideband to tune with. It's safest to have one in the car at all times but u can get by with just borrowing one for getting your tune done. It's easy to tune with vafc and safc. But the most power per dollar is y pipe then 00vi then tune then headers/ good 2.5inchcatback. Anything else and u get way deeper in the pockets or you have to go forced induction.
I've gotten 2 widebands for 100$ each in the last 6 months. They can be cheap if u don't mind waiting and searching ALOT!!
I've gotten 2 widebands for 100$ each in the last 6 months. They can be cheap if u don't mind waiting and searching ALOT!!
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U have to have a wideband to tune with. It's safest to have one in the car at all times but u can get by with just borrowing one for getting your tune done. It's easy to tune with vafc and safc. But the most power per dollar is y pipe then 00vi then tune then headers/ good 2.5inchcatback. Anything else and u get way deeper in the pockets or you have to go forced induction.
I've gotten 2 widebands for 100$ each in the last 6 months. They can be cheap if u don't mind waiting and searching ALOT!!
I've gotten 2 widebands for 100$ each in the last 6 months. They can be cheap if u don't mind waiting and searching ALOT!!
With a y pipe, tune, 00vi, and no codes you should be 225ish whp and that's where the bottom of the 3.5 swap guys are. I wouldn't put headers on the 3 liter unless they were the Catmanns and even then its way more money and sound than power.
Like I said, u can't beat the power per dollar of even a small shot of nitrous. But for your specifications, don't buy a cold air, get the 00vi and related components, and a ypipe. Tune it and have fun.
Like I said, u can't beat the power per dollar of even a small shot of nitrous. But for your specifications, don't buy a cold air, get the 00vi and related components, and a ypipe. Tune it and have fun.
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With a y pipe, tune, 00vi, and no codes you should be 225ish whp and that's where the bottom of the 3.5 swap guys are. I wouldn't put headers on the 3 liter unless they were the Catmanns and even then its way more money and sound than power.
Like I said, u can't beat the power per dollar of even a small shot of nitrous. But for your specifications, don't buy a cold air, get the 00vi and related components, and a ypipe. Tune it and have fun.
Like I said, u can't beat the power per dollar of even a small shot of nitrous. But for your specifications, don't buy a cold air, get the 00vi and related components, and a ypipe. Tune it and have fun.
IF you do the engine mods, (headers, exhaust and such) and get that Vafc2, 00vi swap its a problem bro. i NEED that vafc, im trying to buy his in the next week or so lol so dont sleep, my 5.5 is running all bolt ons and needs it badly!!
Vafc2, wideband, 00VI. If you have a 4th gen and haven't done the 00VI you are just so far behind IMO and FULL 00VI not that half assed upper only, get the injectors, fuel rail, LIM, TB the whole she-bang!
BTW IMHO the spacers are not worth it for the vq30de your better off spending the money on the 00VI.
BTW IMHO the spacers are not worth it for the vq30de your better off spending the money on the 00VI.
The one drawback I see with it is the drilling.
So a complete 5th gen 00VI requires an emanage.
A hybrid 00VI with 4th gen LIM and injectors requires drilling.
The gains as I understand it, are very similar, if not the same.
A trade off I guess.
DW
It's been tested. It's mostly just noise. A PR style Cai in the fender has been dynod for like 2hp if that much. Money and time to power ratio really sucks there. Hacked airbox is free and has gotten the best reviews from my research. I hate my short ram and my Cai now just because of the noise when just easing around town. I only like it at 6000rpms. But how much time is spent there?
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What's so bad about the 00VI with 4th gen injectors and 4th gen LIM? With that setup tuning and adding a device like the emanage is an option rather than a requirement.
The one drawback I see with it is the drilling.
So a complete 5th gen 00VI requires an emanage.
A hybrid 00VI with 4th gen LIM and injectors requires drilling.
The gains as I understand it, are very similar, if not the same.
A trade off I guess.
DW
The one drawback I see with it is the drilling.
So a complete 5th gen 00VI requires an emanage.
A hybrid 00VI with 4th gen LIM and injectors requires drilling.
The gains as I understand it, are very similar, if not the same.
A trade off I guess.
DW
It's been tested. It's mostly just noise. A PR style Cai in the fender has been dynod for like 2hp if that much. Money and time to power ratio really sucks there. Hacked airbox is free and has gotten the best reviews from my research. I hate my short ram and my Cai now just because of the noise when just easing around town. I only like it at 6000rpms. But how much time is spent there?
Bro you do realize the emanage is more than the vafc2, i do agree get it last though. And skweaks, i want that minty one bro! trust me i promise you, you will hear from me soon lol.
What's so bad about the 00VI with 4th gen injectors and 4th gen LIM? With that setup tuning and adding a device like the emanage is an option rather than a requirement.
The one drawback I see with it is the drilling.
So a complete 5th gen 00VI requires an emanage.
A hybrid 00VI with 4th gen LIM and injectors requires drilling.
The gains as I understand it, are very similar, if not the same.
A trade off I guess.
DW
The one drawback I see with it is the drilling.
So a complete 5th gen 00VI requires an emanage.
A hybrid 00VI with 4th gen LIM and injectors requires drilling.
The gains as I understand it, are very similar, if not the same.
A trade off I guess.
DW
1. I'm not a fan of the drilling when you can just get the 5th gen LIM.
2. The injectors are a necessity IMO why not add more fuel since your getting more air, right?
3. You can just tune with the afc no need for a emanage and since you have the bigger injectors using the afc its possible to indirectly advance fuel timing which equals more power.
So I see more power and power potential going with the full setup.
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Well you kind of answered the question.
1. I'm not a fan of the drilling when you can just get the 5th gen LIM.
2. The injectors are a necessity IMO why not add more fuel since your getting more air, right?
3. You can just tune with the afc no need for a emanage and since you have the bigger injectors using the afc its possible to indirectly advance fuel timing which equals more power.
So I see more power and power potential going with the full setup.
1. I'm not a fan of the drilling when you can just get the 5th gen LIM.
2. The injectors are a necessity IMO why not add more fuel since your getting more air, right?
3. You can just tune with the afc no need for a emanage and since you have the bigger injectors using the afc its possible to indirectly advance fuel timing which equals more power.
So I see more power and power potential going with the full setup.
Vafc is eaaaaaaasy. Emanage is advanced tuning. Vafc is easier to install and tune but it only adjusts fuel. It adjusts timing also but only as a side affect of the fuel tuning.
The manifold swap only takes time and effort. It's harder than changing oil but a lot easier than building a turbo kit
The manifold swap only takes time and effort. It's harder than changing oil but a lot easier than building a turbo kit