not embarrassed of my car, i like it much better, but dont want to be associated with those who bash the SVTs cause i love em. the stock exhaust sounds incredible, handle well, but cant take the interior, they are louder inside, just not quite as nice as maxs, which is why i have a max.

 

cjrj473,
I totally agree with you on the noise issue! But just for arguments sake. Most of the interior noise is from the stock KDW's. I haven't ridden in a Max so i dont' know how quite it is or how it would compare to a Tour. I switched to Firehawk SZ 50's and won't ever go back to the KDW's because the noise polution inside the cabin is horrid adn my SZ's handle better.

-Andy

 

im glad we've all stopped the fighting and such , i also like the SVT, and the max. The max is just a little bigger inside, and suits my personality better (the way it looks). My interior is loud now, because of my exhaust and intake, the SVT exhaust is loud , but nice and def. tolerable.

 

you are all *****'s.. lets fight some more

 

I'll pick on your grammer!

There should be no ' in you *****es statement! Unless us *****s' own you!

LOL

Oh and your forums are slow! Limited number of users, BAH!

Later
-Andy

 

my god you Contour Owners have dirty mouths

 

I like the SVT too. The SVT Lightning, and the SVT Cobra, that is.

To make cars like a focus and contour a part of the special vehicles team is just...

 

The Focus got the SVT treatment probably because there are a few that are now running 7.5 's. Not a bad way to market a new car.


SuDZ

 

Granted the Contour and Foci aren't on the level of the Cobra and Lightning but that's why we didn't get a cool name. We hold are own for a fair price.

-Andy

 

what is the contour called , i heard the 100 shot nitrous contour is called the SVT PUFF >>>

 

That's just it the Foci and Contour don't have a special designation.

The Puff was a Ford Concept car!

-Andy

 

I almost went for an SVT Contour but the interior space was small like an Audi A4. I need space, space!

 

I hear ya! I'm a big guy but have always owned smaller cars, ie 88' Escort GT and '84 Nissan Sentra. I fit snuggly have no kids and don't carry passenger often so it works out nicely for me.

-Andy

 

I looked at buying a Contour SVT, but after owning and driving SHO's the power seemed to be lacking somewhat. They do handle great though!

I decided on getting another SHO since the power and modification potential is SO much greater.

I don't think Contour SVT's are faster than the Maxima stock versus stock, but I would say they are close. I have run 14.7's with our SE stock, I would imagine a strong running SVT could run high 14's as well, but I think the Maxima is much easier to launch.

Our SHO is running 5 m.p.h. faster in the 1/4 mile than our Maxima now! I just have to work on my launch, they are not easy like the Max.

I raced my wife a few times at the strip and she could hang briefly off of the line, since I had to bog the SHO and ease onto the throttle, then I pulled away strongly and could see her headlights in my rear view before the finish, as I put distance on the Max.

BTW SprintMax, I didn't break anything at the strip. SHO's have reliable Yamaha motors, minus an occasional leaky valve cover gasket, but the Ford the parts aren't as reliable as Nissan over the long haul. My current SHO has been quite reliable so far though. I found a good example. No leaks, runs tight and FAST!

 

 

I would like to argue your opinion that the SHO has better potential than the SVT Contour. The SVT Contour has a supercharger option and a turbo option on the way. There is also an option for a 3.0L swap that great brings our torque figures up. We have a SC running 294hp and 240 or so BHP at the wheel, he doesn't have headers yet either. The 3.0L's are still being tuned and I have seen some good numbers but I can't recall any off the top of my head. We have many suspension, two header, many intake, and several exhaust options. Also with the use of the Duratec in the Escape and Taurus there are continuing parts out for the engine. The Mondeo may be introduced back in to the US market soon now that Jack "Contour Killer" nASSer is gone.

Just food for thought.

-Andy

 

The SHO has tons more potential for power than the contour. The contour will handle better, but not near the speed potential. VeeTec can tell you better than me, but the vortech kits on the SHO make tremendous power. He said that one guy has 550 hp at the wheels. I don't think a contour can make near that.

 

Have you researched the Yamaha motor before making this statement?

The motor originally made 300 h.p. before Ford detuned it so that it wouldn't destroy their tranny and their Mustang, which it ended up being faster than anyway, during the 1-2nd Gen production years.

The potential for this motor n/a is well beyond 300 h.p. at the wheels.

The stage 1 Vortech kit makes 355-360 h.p. at the wheels, the stage 3 puts down 435-451 at the wheels, thats over 500 h.p. at the crank!

If you would like to see some dyno plots refer to www.shoshop.com

That is just one place to look. There is also a Turbo kit available, and both turbo and s/c kits have been available for years.

The Duratec doesn't have the modifcation potential that the Yamaha has, it began life as a Ford and was tweaked to make 200 h.p. The Yamaha began life as a Yamaha and was detuned by ford from 300 h.p. to 220 for the 3.0 and 225 for the 3.2, but the figures Ford gives are conservative.

I like the SVT's, they handle great, but I chose the SHO for ultimate h.p. potential. It all depends on what you want.

 

I have seen papasmurf's engine as it is bare! All is left is the engine and a clear view of the tranny. Battery has been moved too. The intake runs right behind the headlight so you know there is room!

 

Chill Dude!

I wasn't saying that the SHO wasn't more tuneable. I said I wanted to argue the point and list the stuff out for the tour! I wasn't going bother searching cause I didn't have time. I stand corrected!

I guess my opinion is that with the engine out of production and the more preferred cars being at least 7 years old you going to hit a limit at some point. The duratecs advancements are just begining! We do suffer from the era of Fords bad build quality and corner cutting. What I failed to mention is my preference in a sport car is a good mix of handling and power. Contour can handle circles around the SHO's.

Don't get to upset I'm just trying have a decent discussion,

-Andy

 

I wasn't upset, just responding to your post.

I agree that stock versus stock the SVT will outhandle a SHO, but the SHO takes very well to suspension modifications and so do the brakes. There are years and years of research and development that have gone into modifying the SHO, and even now there are still quite a few Gen. 1-2 SHO's in SCCA competition. For me it was a choice of power and the potential to make much more, the handling can be easily improved.

 

Great... I read this the day after I get the KDW's on my Max... oh well.

-V

 

Sorry Vmok,
Maybe you'll get lucky but I doubt it! I've been in several cars with different sizes and such and all are loud!

VeeTec,
I hear what your saying. We both like our cars for different reasons and both a valid. Mutual respect is all we need.

-Andy

 

play nice boys.. so i don't have to lock this one...