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Old 02-26-2012, 04:14 PM
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Trans Exploded!

Well my max is out for the count...AGAIN. Had my exhaust installed on Friday and was driving it home that night when I felt a slip and had a sudden loss of power. I got of the highway and immediately when I got off of the ramp there was a loud explosion followed by the sound of gravel in a washing machine. I had no gears except 3rd & 5th. And with the shifter in neutral the car would still take of like it was in gear. I brought it home on the dolly, at which point it slipped off and ripped the passenger side of the bumper off. And then the trans locked up, won't budge at all in any direction even on a hill. So I'm thinking I just need to replace it because this one was supposedly "rebuilt" but yet somehow failed less than a month after I got it back from a family "friend". Any whom what do you guys think is it worth trying to rebuild or just find a used one, also could this have destroyed my axles and/or clutch and flywheel which are also brand new? Thanks guys.
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Get an unmolested one from the pull-a-part and pay to have it rebuilt. Don't ever buy a rebuilt one bc they could tell you they put this and that in there and are you really gonna take it apart to verify its true? probably not. It shouldn't cost you that much and this way you wont run into this again. Damn crooks putting cheap gears in there
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failed less than a month after I got it back from a family "friend".
Was the "friend" the one who rebuilt it? Or just borrowing it after the rebuild?

If he was responsible it would have broken on him while he was driving it, not a month later.

Just some thoughts to consider.
1. The major parts are how many years old?
2. The rebuild was how long ago?
3. You've driven it how many years, VS. the "friends" time spent driving it?

If the "friend" rebuilt it, you really can't expect a refund. Either way you need a another trans, your is farked.

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Old 02-27-2012, 03:30 PM
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Sounds like you had no fluid in it if that is an MT. That will about do it.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:50 PM
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Yup! Sounded like the end of my 5MT!!

Flywheel will be fine, clutch and PP, I would not trust, they do not like gear oil...



Well... The PP was fine, I cleaned it up and I'm using it right now in the white car, but the clutch exposed to gear oil over maybe a thousand miles and you see what happens.
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nah the "friend" was the one who rebuilt it...the parts are all new, got a brand new clutch, flywheel, axles, rack...the list goes on for basically the entire front end of the car. All parts were being replaced since january of last year, during which time the car was at his shop...I finally got it back the end of last month, maybe drove it a couple hundred miles and then it exploded. I was wondering the same thing about him not putting in fluid, but havent checked yet. I know im pretty much out of a trans and money now as i havent told him and dont plan on speaking to him again sooo, the search begins for a new trans.
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Does not sound like something that would be salvageable, but your description isn't clear enough to really tell what happened. Part of what you describe makes it sound like a broken gear or coupler, part of it sounds like a differential problem, and part of it even sounds like it could be a clutch or flywheel failure. So I don't know exactly what's going on, but suffice to say it's gotta come out to be either fixed or replaced. Pull the reverse light sensor and if a bunch of metal comes out, you know that something inside the trans has failed. Take a picture of the pieces that come out, if any, and I can tell you exactly what part of the trans they are from.
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When I read the title, I pictured something like this.

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Originally Posted by gatsugansu
When I read the title, I pictured something like this.

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could be an exploded bearing rolling around in there and got lodged in a gear
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:27 AM
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Nah, not that bad lol...it was loud but just an internal explosion theres not even any fluid leaking. I "want" to say the clutch and flywheel weren't the problem as the shifter is basically locked out of everything and you can "feel/hear" bits moving around when trying to put it in any gear. Before it locked up, when getting it off the dolly the clutch still engaged and the car even moved forward, and coasted. So it seems like something blew up and got lodged somewhere. Haven't had time to look at it since, but will post pictures when i pull the sensor.
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shift fork broke? could also be a dowel pin that shot out the flywheel (read and seen pics of this happen before)
either way, was any money involved while the said "friend" did the "job"?
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:33 AM
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I've seen RWD transmission shatter a gear when there was no oil inside. All the teeth shear off. It went about 100mi on the highway before it blew up.

I can also do rebuilds or at least check out your next trans, and I'm less than 2hrs from Newark. FYI. The only work I do on Maximas is MT rebuilds.
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Failure of a shift fork or interlock pin could have caused you to stay in one gear while selecting the next. two gaers at a time would result in a good bang and some carneage.
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dgeesaman is the man he helped me with my transmission back in 2008 with shimming etc...
transmissions... mine is starting to go also...
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Originally Posted by asand1
Failure of a shift fork or interlock pin could have caused you to stay in one gear while selecting the next. two gaers at a time would result in a good bang and some carneage.
Yea ... that doesn't sound fun at all!


Pull this puppy and take pix ....
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It seems like the glass of Luck,Friendship,Trust and Truth is empty.
Someone has some expalining to do.
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Originally Posted by JtzMax
Yea ... that doesn't sound fun at all!


Pull this puppy and take pix ....
while not impossible, the possibility of engaging 2 gears at once while the car is moving at anything more than a few mph is virtually nil. what he described doesn't sound like that happened either.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
while not impossible, the possibility of engaging 2 gears at once while the car is moving at anything more than a few mph is virtually nil. what he described doesn't sound like that happened either.
I agree Neal ... still, sounds bad! lol Sounds like he shredded some teeth off the IPS or MS. I'm guessing the IPS main teeth ??? A nice chunk of gear tooth in the mix would lock it up pretty good I'd think.
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Well after nearly 10 months of inactivity i've finally decided to get the max back up and running...Turns out the trans was DESTROYED, nothing is salvageable, theres bits of synchronizers and bearings blown all over, the case itself is scarred and scratched, a couple of gears are locked together. Needless to say i have no idea what the "Friend" did to this thing but its done. And to top it all of clutch is ruined, so there goes my Spec Stage 3 down the drain, the Fidanza is fine just needs to be resurfaced and balanced...and i have a new unit being shipped which should be here tomorrow. I'll try and get some pics up of the carnage and after photos as well. But the bright side is that she'll finally be back on the road.


Sucks that i have to replace parts i've already replaced though!
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lesson learned i hope!!
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Yea dont trust just anyone to do a Trans job, what sucks though is everyone swears that it's my fault or that I can't drive stick
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Yea dont trust just anyone to do a Trans job, what sucks though is everyone swears that it's my fault or that I can't drive stick
well??? let us be the judge, post up a video of you driving and we'll let you know if your granny shifting, not double clutching like you should!!
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First Thread i Seen of a 5speed Failure in a maxima.
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Originally Posted by TravisCadello
First Thread i Seen of a 5speed Failure in a maxima.
I can make a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th for you if you want to know...
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Originally Posted by TravisCadello
First Thread i Seen of a 5speed Failure in a maxima.
that is because you are clueless. there are tons of them.
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Originally Posted by max ride 41
well??? let us be the judge, post up a video of you driving and we'll let you know if your granny shifting, not double clutching like you should!!
Will do...but you might see me blow the welds off my intake...then you and the mad scientist will have to rip the block apart and repair the piston rings that i fried
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well??? let us be the judge, post up a video of you driving and we'll let you know if your granny shifting, not double clutching like you should!!
double clutch a synchromesh transmission?
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Lol it was a fast and furious reference. I guess it wen t right over your head.
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Originally Posted by asand1
Lol it was a fast and furious reference. I guess it wen t right over your head.
somebody's paying attention...
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Originally Posted by TravisCadello
First Thread i Seen of a 5speed Failure in a maxima.
The way I see it, for every 2 MT that goes out, 1 AT goes out. AT are more reliable than the MT in the 4th gens, as far in my experience.

239k and my AT didn't have any issues at all.
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Originally Posted by Shift_A32B
The way I see it, for every 2 MT that goes out, 1 AT goes out. AT are more reliable than the MT in the 4th gens, as far in my experience.

239k and my AT didn't have any issues at all.
i have 239,000 miles as well...
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^^ agree. Although I see more Broken AT threads But You gotta keep in mind there arent many 5 spds.never known anyone Personally to have a problem with 4+5 gen 4spds.

I Had a leak, **** bearings and perhaps somethin else wrong with my 5spd and just ended up taking it to a reputable shop (halton transmission) and had it rebuilt as they told me. I paid about a grand in parts n labour :O on a student salary its huuuge money for just having a repair and not a mod installed. anyways she's bee running great now For over 2 years

I'd take the tranny to a known shop/chain For a rebuild. The places that only do trannies are usually good
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in for the pics of the carnage....
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Originally Posted by aackshun
I can make a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th for you if you want to know...



What are the Causes of the M/T Failures? using wrong oil?
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Originally Posted by Shift_A32B
The way I see it, for every 2 MT that goes out, 1 AT goes out. AT are more reliable than the MT in the 4th gens, as far in my experience. 239k and my AT didn't have any issues at all.
You need to consider the context. More ORG members that mod and drive their max's hard drive 5 speeds, so you will naturally see more MT failures here on the ORG.
Aside from solenoid failures, the majority of AT failures Ive seen on the ORG were posted by TravisCadello and a result of neutral drops and other such a$$ baggery.

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If it all comes down on proper maintance and proper driving. The manuals are still weaker than the autos. Throwout bearings and seals are one of the raesons and there scryonos.
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Originally Posted by vqmaxman
If it all comes down on proper maintance and proper driving. The manuals are still weaker than the autos. Throwout bearings and seals are one of the raesons and there scryonos.
ummm, spelling police here. please clarify wtf a "scryonos" is...
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Originally Posted by max ride 41
ummm, spelling police here. please clarify wtf a "scryonos" is...


umm,oops how much is the ticket,lol. gear synchros teeth like or synchros gears rings-circular rings with teeth the main gears forged brass metal wears down it's teeth due to quick shifting shaving off the synchros off of the gears.
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i'll let you off with a warning this time.....
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