Replacing my intake manifold & valve cover gasket **PIC**
Looking at the picture below, the way Nissan have it running is #1 connected to #1, and #2 connected to #2. Because of limited space I have to cut the lines in order to remove the manifold. The question I have is when it's time to reinstall, can I just run a coolant line straight from #1 to #2 (highlighted in pink) and completely ignore the stupid connection (highlighted in green) on the manifold?
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People including myself bypass it, all the time. For the 00VI swap its a must.
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No, That cools your egr and partly your UIM where the EGR connects. If your deleting the EGR you'd be fine but if not you need that coolant line. Just cut it and go buy a foot long section of new hose for a few bucks and redo the lines. I alos got rid of the pinch style hose clamps for the screw plumbing clamps.
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Originally Posted by FallenOne
(Post 8637057)
People including myself bypass it, all the time. For the 00VI swap its a must.
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i bypassed mine because of my spacers. it doesnt actually cool the UIM. cant you see it? just look at it. you just make sure you keep the lines out of the way like zip tie them to a line along the firewall.
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Not sure why it needs to be cut when you can just disconnect them. I've removed my manifold 4 times and never cut those lines. It's a PITA to get off but you can do it when you loosen the manifold from the block.
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Originally Posted by deezo
(Post 8637095)
Not sure why it needs to be cut when you can just disconnect them. I've removed my manifold 4 times and never cut those lines. It's a PITA to get off but you can do it when you loosen the manifold from the block.
It looks like it may just hold the line but I imagine it cools it a bit since its direct metal to metal contact with the UIM. Forgot about the cooling line on the EGR valve itself which probabaly cools the gas quite a bit before it reaches the UIM. |
Also, can I just use a silicone hose for the connection between the valve covers or do I need the original hose?
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do it just like that dude
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That is one pretty hose. Leave it as is. Or maybe just cut a small piece of it
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I wonder if I shaped it into a figure 8, will I get infinite HP? :)
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good info there dude
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my boys is sitting there lookin like that too :D
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Got it all done and installed. Car is running great and ill test drive it later on
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Pictures
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Before:
http://i46.tinypic.com/if9zr4.jpg During: Replaced, valve cover gaskets, intake manifold gasket, spark plug tube seals, and those little grommets for the valve cover. http://i47.tinypic.com/2usg93k.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/2aimzid.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/16kuee8.jpg After: http://i45.tinypic.com/xqe5pu.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/259vhic.jpg |
were your tube seals actually leaking? I have never heard of a 4th gens seals leaking. 5th gen always but never a 4th
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
(Post 8646464)
were your tube seals actually leaking? I have never heard of a 4th gens seals leaking. 5th gen always but never a 4th
Funny thing is, it looks like the tube seals were replaced at some point but the moron who installed it put the tube seals upside down on the valve cover near the firewall :laugh: |
upside down? how? You are saying they put them on the tubes themselves instead of on the valve cover end?
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Originally Posted by Hewta
(Post 8637060)
No, That cools your egr and partly your UIM where the EGR connects. If your deleting the EGR you'd be fine but if not you need that coolant line. Just cut it and go buy a foot long section of new hose for a few bucks and redo the lines. I alos got rid of the pinch style hose clamps for the screw plumbing clamps.
Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
(Post 8646464)
were your tube seals actually leaking? I have never heard of a 4th gens seals leaking. 5th gen always but never a 4th
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That's how my project started out...fix a rear valve cover leak,and a front left strut, which turned into EVERYTHING else!!! I too just cut that line, maybe I just ran out of patience, considering I cut it with a saws-all and a long blade! I was thinking the same thing about bypassing the UIM cooling line. But I didn't think of the EGR (I'm keeping mine) heat soak. Wish somebody, or myself would have taken a temp reading at idle with the line on, and with it bypassed. I'm a little sketchy on by passing it now. I plan on doing the 00VI install, and I read it was necessary to bypass that line anyways, right? Is that again, 00VI w/o an EGR or w/ an EGR (or does it matter)?!?
Just to show you my mess... Attachment 2759 |
Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
(Post 8646480)
upside down? how? You are saying they put them on the tubes themselves instead of on the valve cover end?
they install the spark plug tube seals upside down |\ /| (basically the smaller diameter side is now facing the engine instead of the opposite. http://i47.tinypic.com/v5vgaf.jpg |
Originally Posted by OC95Max
(Post 8646538)
That's how my project started out...fix a rear valve cover leak,and a front left strut, which turned into EVERYTHING else!!! I too just cut that line, maybe I just ran out of patience, considering I cut it with a saws-all and a long blade! I was thinking the same thing about bypassing the UIM cooling line. But I didn't think of the EGR (I'm keeping mine) heat soak. Wish somebody, or myself would have taken a temp reading at idle with the line on, and with it bypassed. I'm a little sketchy on by passing it now. I plan on doing the 00VI install, and I read it was necessary to bypass that line anyways, right? Is that again, 00VI w/o an EGR or w/ an EGR (or does it matter)?!?
Just to show you my mess... Attachment 2759 |
Originally Posted by kroze
(Post 8646561)
I was told not to bypass anything and they did it for a reason. So I took the trouble and reinstall it just how I took it off.
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Originally Posted by OC95Max
(Post 8646565)
Crap! Not what I wanted to hear.
Its like what I said before, anyone who does a VI swap has to bypass it anyways! How do you think the 2000 and 2001 engines are set up? |
Originally Posted by FallenOne
(Post 8646599)
. . . Your fine. Seriously dude...
Its like what I said before, anyone who does a VI swap has to bypass it anyways! How do you think the 2000 and 2001 engines are set up? |
my boys is back together now. didnt bypass it nor did we make the hose bigger because its really not that hard to get off. replaced a couple hose clamps tho. everything went back together fine but its idling at around 1500 now. thinking it might be the iacv.
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Originally Posted by kroze
(Post 8646549)
No as in the tube seals are taper, they put the tube seals upside down so that instead of it looking like this when you put the valve cover back |/ \|
they install the spark plug tube seals upside down |\ /| (basically the smaller diameter side is now facing the engine instead of the opposite. http://i47.tinypic.com/v5vgaf.jpg |
i see you have those pesky swirl valves... did you delete them while you had you UIM off?
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Originally Posted by GGENIUS
(Post 8646650)
... back together fine but its idling at around 1500 now. thinking it might be the iacv.
Look for posts from Jamerica. Great pics of the fast idle cam and its issues, which may be yours. If I find the link I'll post it as well. EDIT: Found it...here you go; http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...placement.html |
Originally Posted by kasso28
(Post 8647324)
i'm pretty sure the hollow part of the seal goes into the valve cover...by your logic, |\ /|
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if you had to put a time estimate on replace rear vavle cover gasket how long would you say?
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my egr valve is gone and she runs like a striped ape. bypassed that cooling line and all is good. made an egr plate where it attaches to the intake and shes good no leaks and she idles perfectly.
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