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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 12:18 AM
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I discovered a torn boot on my passenger side outer joint yesterday.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 01:16 AM
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Has the axle started clicking yet? If not, you could just seal it up and fill it with grease. Depending on how soon after the initial break you had found the tear, you could be buying a couple of months to even years more axle life before failure.

Also, that Pennzoil Synchromesh doesn't seem to specify whether its GL-4 or not.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 01:23 AM
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No clicking yet, I caught it early. I do plan on just replacing the boot. The axle is less than 2 years old.

Gl4 only applies to gear oil and is a spec regarding yellow metal compatibility. As this is not really gear oil, it does not apply. PSM is however yellow metal safe.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 04:25 AM
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I did that 2 month ago, replaced drive side CV boot, the boot kit I got from Advance Auto comes with a snap ring and a pack of grease, to separate CV joint requires some convincing, I just hold the shaft down with me left hand, and slammed the joint with a 3 pound hammer, give it few good slams and you should be able to knock it out, cleaned the old grease in the bowl, I used a can of brake cleaner, put everything back, works fine, I do have to remove the shaft from the transmission though.
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 04:46 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 05:00 AM
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I saw some split boot that glues together, but not this bolt-on type, where can you get it?
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 05:30 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 05:44 AM
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That split boot is junk.
Replacing the boot is relatively easy. Pulling the axle will make things much easier and you will not lose all your trans fluid.
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Split boots are junk. They will leak in pretty short order.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Pulling the axle will make things much easier and you will not lose all your trans fluid.
I have had both axles out before, this is not my first rodeo. I know for a fact I will lose most of my fluid. I beleive automatics won't lose much fluid though.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:59 AM
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I know for a fact I will lose most of my fluid.
Can't you just drain your fluid into a clean container, do your fix, strain your fluid and refill your trans?

There might be a bit of volume lost but I can't imagine it'd be much.
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 02:05 PM
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I will if I have too, I even have an extra quart of SM.
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbobink
Can't you just drain your fluid into a clean container, do your fix, strain your fluid and refill your trans?

There might be a bit of volume lost but I can't imagine it'd be much.
I re-used fairly new ATF after cleaning it with a paint strainer a few years ago and its still pink. The AT has been shifting fine. Happened after modifying the VB, inserting new shift soleniods, and replacing 10 quarts of ATF. I bent the AT pan by carelessy over torquing a few of the 21 bolts. After installing a new pan I added that cleanly strained ATF. DIdn't want to spend a bundle on Amsoil synthetic ATF again.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 02:59 PM
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^^^ I know a number of local shops that'll offer to retain your recovered fluid (based on the recency of it's change out of course), including my local Ford dealership, and encourage it's reuse.

As long as you're not introducing grit or other contaminants, I honestly think you're good to go.
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbobink
As long as you're not introducing grit or other contaminants, I honestly think you're good to go.
This is my fear. luckily my car is pretty clean underneath, I would just have to clean out my drain pan.
Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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Get some old socks to use as a filter. The oil will probably go very slowly through it, but you could be doing your axle job while the fluid is slowly straining through.
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Do be sure to update this if you can get the joint off as shown in the video.

I have a Raxle here that needs a outer boot.
Old Feb 21, 2015 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
Do be sure to update this if you can get the joint off as shown in the video.

I have a Raxle here that needs a outer boot.
Will do. I'm going to try this just to prove a point and hopefully share another shortcut like the KS install.

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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 09:11 AM
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When I did mine, I pulled axle out, no ATF came out, not even a single drop.
Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Manual tranny is different from automatic. You can lose a lot of gear oil when popping out the axle.
Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dwapenyi
Manual tranny is different from automatic. You can lose a lot of gear oil when popping out the axle.
+1

I'm trying to remember the amount. I definitely had to top it off again with the extra quart that I purchased to keep on hand for emergency repairs.
Old Mar 4, 2015 | 10:13 PM
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I placed my order for this expecting junk.
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Was surprised and very happy to see an Empi boot, they don't get much better than that.

I pulled the joint out of the hub and attempted to remove the joint in-car, but I just could not get a good enough swing. After draining the MTF into a clean pan I pulled the shaft and replaced the boot.

The old boot has a small puncture wound that I think is from my strut work awhile back.

New boot installed.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 09:17 AM
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There is no need to remove the brake caliper, caliper mounting bracket and rotor in order to remove the axle.
Old Mar 5, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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I didn't want to scar up the powder coating, and these brakes are bigger than stock, leaving less room.
Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:01 PM
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This is how I torqued the axle nut with my 150 ft/lb torque wrench.


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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 10:16 PM
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This is how I torqued the axle nut with my 150 ft/lb torque wrench.

I have a 150 ft-lb torque wrench also but haven't had any luck finding an appropriate torque multiplier bar anywhere/online. Any recommendations? Also, could I just torque the nut to 150 ft-lb with my wrench, then add 1/4-1/2 turn or so with a breaker bar/pipe to get to near the 174 ft-lb minimum?
Old Mar 6, 2015 | 06:11 AM
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So the method shown in the vid worked just fine?
Old Mar 6, 2015 | 06:56 AM
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Thank you for posting the information. I think it will help members save some $$$.
Old Mar 6, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Did any grease get on your rotor? I noticed you have no shield. I am also thinking about doing that brake upgrade.
Old Mar 6, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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So the method shown in the vid worked just fine?
If you're referring to the first post and Deming the joint in car, no I could not get a good enough swing with the hammer.

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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerTotheMax
Did any grease get on your rotor? I noticed you have no shield. I am also thinking about doing that brake upgrade.
No, joint is located far enough back from the wheel and rotor that it could not get them greasy.

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