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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Can i put those Xeon Acura Type Lights on my Maxima?????

all the new cars have it, from the acura's to the infinit's, that special hot *** glowing light...that like blue and bright ones...the BMW's have it too, i think it's called Xenon or Xeon, something like that

Anyway, i was talking to some people and they say i have to change bulb and Lamp to get the light like those...is this true? Or do i only need to change the bulbs? And how much do they run for?
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But to answer your question ... are you talking about HIDS? Or Xenon headlights.

You can get a HID kit from member 97GLES for around $400.
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wtf is an HID?

I dont' even know what HID's are but I was talking about the Xenon lights, that was the correct spelling too....how much would they run and do i need lamp and bulb or just bulb?
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Ummmmmm ... HID = high intensity discharge... it's the bright shiney white (sometimes blue) lights you see on expensive cars like Lexus or BMW.

The white (or blue) lights you see on little ricer cars like Civics are (probably) Xenon lights.

You can get ricer Xenon lights anywhere. All you need is the bulb and probably and upgraded harness so you don't melt your existing harness.

Or you can spend some money and get some real HIDs like in the expensive cars and be able to see a lot better than with some crap ricer xenon bulbs.
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what about the new tiburon lights

those are very similar to audi lights which are really cool. i mean its hyundai, that cant be an expensive set up
Old Jan 30, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Re: what about the new tiburon lights

You mean projectors? Projectors are cool too ... and I think there are two members or so that are working on projectors for the Max.

Originally posted by Justin95SE
those are very similar to audi lights which are really cool. i mean its hyundai, that cant be an expensive set up
Old Jan 30, 2002 | 12:23 PM
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Re: what about the new tiburon lights

Incorrect

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those are very similar to audi lights which are really cool. i mean its hyundai, that cant be an expensive set up
Old Jan 30, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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Re: Re: what about the new tiburon lights

Originally posted by Jeff92se
Incorrect

nuh-uh.

how so, please explain. ok maybe they are not setup the same i dont know how either is set up but the end results are similar. only similar though.
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That's not the part that's incorrect

Originally posted by Justin95SE


nuh-uh.

how so, please explain. ok maybe they are not setup the same i dont know how either is set up but the end results are similar. only similar though.
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it can be an expensive set up?

stupid hyundai.
Old Jan 30, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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Re: wtf is an HID?

Originally posted by meccanoble
I dont' even know what HID's are but I was talking about the Xenon lights, that was the correct spelling too....how much would they run and do i need lamp and bulb or just bulb?
Do a search on Ebay for the words like Maxima and Xenon or lights. It should get you what your looking for.

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oh my god that is the funniest thing i have seen today

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But to answer your question ... are you talking about HIDS? Or Xenon headlights.

You can get a HID kit from member 97GLES for around $400.
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Ok there's 3 things being talked about here.

1) HID lights. That's High Intensity Discharge. These are the bluish and purplish lights you see on cars like the GS400, certain BMWs, MBZ, new Acura CL, new (02) Maximas, I35s, some Audis, etc. This type of light uses no wire filament, it develops enough of a voltage drop across 2 metal prongs (my mind is blank right now and I can't think of the technical term for these) for the electrons to arc from one to the other like a little lightning bolt. These types of lights DO have XENON gas in them, but they are NOT the same as the Xenon bulbs I am going to describe next.

2) Blue bulbs. These can be bought at places like Walmart for as cheap as $15, and also high end bulb manufacturers like PIAA. This is a regular bulb with either a blue tinted glass housing, or Xenon gas inside it which will give it a bluish tint, but will NOT look anything like the lights described above. They just look basically like you put blue plastic wrap over a flashlight.

3) Projector lamps. This has nothing to do with the bulb itself. It is the design of the headlight housing, in which either the low or the high beam (or both) is basically a long tube with the bulb (or HID "bulb") at the back of it. Many cars come with this type of headlamp, some with HID and some without. Cars offered WITH projector lamps but not HID: Hyundai Tiburon, Integra, Supra, among others. You can also buy these for many cars like civics and accords.

Hope this clears it up.
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THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

wait a minute, when I was valet parking, the LIGHTS ON THE NEW BMW's, NEW ACURA's, NEW VOLKSWAGONS, AUDI'S and MERCEDES looked exactly the same....they weren't bright white but like an illuminating type purple or blue which looked so good on the ground when driving...those are the ones i want...i'm not about to spend 400 dollars for some dam lights...it can't be THAT expensive can it? Xenon lights is the terminology i was always told of, never heard of HID's....if Xenon lights are in the new AUdi's, and Acura's, then those are the ones I want, unless they are like a 50 dollar difference from the HID's....are u sure HID's are in new Mercedes and BMW's?
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Originally posted by clee130
Sometimes I wish I weren't a moderator... cause then I could post up pictures like this:

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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by meccanoble
wait a minute, when I was valet parking, the LIGHTS ON THE NEW BMW's, NEW ACURA's, NEW VOLKSWAGONS, AUDI'S and MERCEDES looked exactly the same....they weren't bright white but like an illuminating type purple or blue which looked so good on the ground when driving...those are the ones i want...i'm not about to spend 400 dollars for some dam lights...it can't be THAT expensive can it? Xenon lights is the terminology i was always told of, never heard of HID's....if Xenon lights are in the new AUdi's, and Acura's, then those are the ones I want, unless they are like a 50 dollar difference from the HID's....are u sure HID's are in new Mercedes and BMW's?
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Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Originally posted by meccanoble
wait a minute, when I was valet parking, the LIGHTS ON THE NEW BMW's, NEW ACURA's, NEW VOLKSWAGONS, AUDI'S and MERCEDES looked exactly the same....they weren't bright white but like an illuminating type purple or blue which looked so good on the ground when driving...those are the ones i want...i'm not about to spend 400 dollars for some dam lights...it can't be THAT expensive can it? Xenon lights is the terminology i was always told of, never heard of HID's....if Xenon lights are in the new AUdi's, and Acura's, then those are the ones I want, unless they are like a 50 dollar difference from the HID's....are u sure HID's are in new Mercedes and BMW's?
Positive, old ones as well as far back as....well i don't know, but it's not a new concept when it comes to High End models like those. Now the HID and Xenon bulbs, like many people have already mentioned are Two completely different things. The bulbs go by names like, Hyper White, Plasma Blue, Xenon This, Xenon That, but ultimately are nothing but plug in bulbs. Some have coated blue to matalic glass but use absolutely no Xenon technology, while others (the more better brands) have an actual percentage of xenon gas in them. This gas is a PART of the technology used in real HID's, thus the bold and often exagerated use of the term "Xenon" in a lot of the brand names. It's been argued that some of these bulbs actually put less light on the road than traditional halogen bulbs, yet some people swear by improvements they've had with xenon lights. Rule of thumb, try it for yourself. For the most part the best Xenon style bulb I've seen and tried thus far (I like the color myself) has been APC Xenon Plasma 80/100 watt bulb. There a higher wattage bulb and pose a definate threat to your stock harness, so upgrade if you consider ANY higher wattage bulb no matter what the brand. I THINK they work well, good light output and decent color. To the inexperienced eye these bulbs may be mistaken for true HID, however to those who know better, bulbs such as these stick out like sore a thumb and BY NO means compare to the real thing. So if your looking to imitate the look without being completely blind at night, try em (or experiment with others), if you've got the dough to dish out on some real HID's even better. Hope all this helps. And please don't be discouraged by some of the more...spiteful remarks you've received thus far, questions should be answered by whoever's willing to answer them. So ignore the negatives and read responses from people who will actually address your question....believe me, were out there
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did i ever tell u u were my HEEEEEEERO!

i see i see...so hmm...i've seen a lot of those plasma type lights and stuff, like super bright whites and stuff...that's what u talking about? well, in either case, the ones u just mentioned which look very similar to the real HIDS, how much do they go for???

A while back, I bought some bright whites...forgot the name, but they are brighter than my manufactur lights but wtill weak as ****...another thing, there are two lights right? the ones that poin straight out and ones in the corner..not the trafficator lights, but i guess used for high beam or something..i just remember there were two bulbs...but can they use the same bulbs or do they take different size???

BUT HOW MUCH DO THEY COST? I'm hoping under 75 for a pair and do i have to change my lamp or that coil thing u were talking about? Are the ones u recommended good enough and won't heat up my coil thingy??? I'm real dumb wit this..i guess that's why they call me a newbie
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xenon's cost 20 bucks.....HID - 500...........take yor pick
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Correction: fake Xenons cost $20 ... HIDs cost $400

And you might burn out your wire harness and not be able to see in the rain with fake xenons ... you won't have that problem with HIDs.

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xenon's cost 20 bucks.....HID - 500...........take yor pick
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i wish i was a newbie- they have cool words like trafficator

just kidding dude. but i have seen tiburons coming at me at night and their lights seem to change colors to a degree if they hit a bump or something in the road, i assume that effect is because the angle i am looking at changes, but what causes that? it is a lot like the audis. and if trafficator is a real word i am now a dumbass.
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These are HIDs!!!!

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u guys still haven't fully answered my question

iight, if i go for xenon OR HID lights, do i need to change the lamp or just the bulb and the coils? I need to know exactly how much all of this is gonna cost......and what coil or thing yaw were talkin bout tha twill burn out? how much is a new one?
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Buy Naxos 9004 size bulbs off ebay, they cost about $20, they're NOT as bright as HIDs, but they look really cool, and all you have to change is the bulb... takes about 2 mins to install..

You also theoretically need an upgrade harness because they're higher wattage.
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ok, if you have foglights, get the H3 bulbs for them, if u want to make your corner light you can get blue lights for those, #1157 I think. The favorite brand for bulbs is NOKYA. They are bright, and give a light bluish look, similar to the HID look, the other bulbs seem to just give a whitish light. All you need to buy is the bulbs, nothing else, u can upgrade the wiring harness if u want because the bulbs you are buying are higher wattages, but this is not mandatory (i have had blue bulbs for over a year with regular harnesss). Just buy the bulbs off e-bay, for nokya about $18 per pair and screw them in there, and you're done. Bulbs I recommend you get:

Nokya #9004-headlight
nokya-H3-foglight
BLue 1157-corner lights.

This should answer your questions.

P.S. Another thing not mentioned is when you get HID you lose the ability for high/beam low beam which won't let you flash your lights. Also you would have to buy two kits to make your fogs HID too, it would look weird if you didn't and $800 for lights plus a couple hundred dollars for install is not worth it when the Nokya bulbs give a similar (no flames, i know they are not "true HIDs"), go buy yourself the body kit SHADOW is working. Just my opinion.
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ok, if you have foglights, get the H3 bulbs for them, if u want to make your corner light you can get blue lights for those, #1157 I think. The favorite brand for bulbs is NOKYA. They are bright, and give a light bluish look, similar to the HID look, the other bulbs seem to just give a whitish light. All you need to buy is the bulbs, nothing else, u can upgrade the wiring harness if u want because the bulbs you are buying are higher wattages, but this is not mandatory (i have had blue bulbs for over a year with regular harnesss). Just buy the bulbs off e-bay, for nokya about $18 per pair and screw them in there, and you're done. Bulbs I recommend you get:

Nokya #9004-headlight
nokya-H3-foglight
BLue 1157-corner lights.

This should answer your questions.

P.S. Another thing not mentioned is when you get HID you lose the ability for high/beam low beam which won't let you flash your lights. Also you would have to buy two kits to make your fogs HID too, it would look weird if you didn't and $800 for lights plus a couple hundred dollars for install is not worth it when the Nokya bulbs give a similar (no flames, i know they are not "true HIDs"), go buy yourself the body kit SHADOW is working. Just my opinion.
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Re: u guys still haven't fully answered my question

Originally posted by meccanoble
iight, if i go for xenon OR HID lights, do i need to change the lamp or just the bulb and the coils? I need to know exactly how much all of this is gonna cost......and what coil or thing yaw were talkin bout tha twill burn out? how much is a new one?
Well I guess "Xenon or HID lights" would be a correct assessment because True HID is an actual SYSTEM, not bulb. So to answer your question if your just looking for lights/bulbs, you will need Just the bulb. And I don't recall anyone mentioning anything about a "coil" but the upgrade Im talking about when it comes to higher wattage bulbs is a "Harness", this is what connects directly to the bulbs in your headlight. If your harness burns out, (and it WILL if your stock, maybe not immediately and maybe not 7 months down the road, but EVENTUALLY your harness will burn) it doesn't cost much to replace, maybe 7 bucks tops, but it involves cutting and splicing everytime this happens, just go with the harness (about $40 to 50 bucks). As for the bulbs themselves...if were talking headlights, there is only 2 bulbs, one for the right and one for the left. The lamps right next to your headlight is a corner lamp, not a headlight, but Xenon style bulbs can be bought for these as well to match the headlights (good luck with that because nothing I've tried thus far really matches, not even when I use the same brand bulb thats in my headlights...weird) and as I heard someone mention, the size for these are 1157 (your headlights are 9004). While your at it, run a search to " Rewire Corners" if you want these lamp to be brighter than what stock runs em. Now, the APC's I speak of should not run more than 40 bucks ( I got mine for 30 but have seen some places try to sell em for $60!!! or more....ridiculous), I've been through a lot of bulbs and these kick a$$. Naxos were decent too, gorgeous color, but the light on the road wasn't too hot and the high beams sucked. Stay away from the "ICY HOT" crap, PIAA's are a decent bulb, but DO NOT offer the color your obviously looking for and will cost you AT LEAST 60 bucks, I bought em for $70 (ouch) and sold em the next week for $40. They do sell a Plasm Blue sort of bulb that comes VERY close in color to HID but as far as I know there only sold in a bulb size our 4th generations do not have. Heard a few good things about Nokya, but have never tried em...Im willing to bet there similar to APC in quality. All in all, lighting as a whole should not set you back too bad, best buys are usually found on the internet while most car places will try to charge you an arm and leg for simple bulbs. Hope all this helped.

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Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Originally posted by meccanoble
wait a minute, when I was valet parking, the LIGHTS ON THE NEW BMW's, NEW ACURA's, NEW VOLKSWAGONS, AUDI'S and MERCEDES looked exactly the same....they weren't bright white but like an illuminating type purple or blue which looked so good on the ground when driving...those are the ones i want...i'm not about to spend 400 dollars for some dam lights...it can't be THAT expensive can it? Xenon lights is the terminology i was always told of, never heard of HID's....if Xenon lights are in the new AUdi's, and Acura's, then those are the ones I want, unless they are like a 50 dollar difference from the HID's....are u sure HID's are in new Mercedes and BMW's?
Huh? Look the same? Who are you kidding? The expensive cars only have HID's, OMG you could just go to lexus.com or something and figure that out. Xenon lights (the really cheap ones) just try to imitate the look, but if you drive with them you can't seem more than 10 feet but with HID's you can see very far without blinding other cars. Some people replace their bulbs with superwhites or such to get an improvement over stock yellow but those dont look like HID.
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Heres a link to help you rewire your Corner Lamps (some people call em clearance Lamps) If/when your ready

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread...ht=switch+wires
Old Jan 31, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Originally posted by meccanoble
wait a minute, when I was valet parking, the LIGHTS ON THE NEW BMW's, NEW ACURA's, NEW VOLKSWAGONS, AUDI'S and MERCEDES looked exactly the same....they weren't bright white but like an illuminating type purple or blue which looked so good on the ground when driving...those are the ones i want...i'm not about to spend 400 dollars for some dam lights...it can't be THAT expensive can it? Xenon lights is the terminology i was always told of, never heard of HID's....if Xenon lights are in the new AUdi's, and Acura's, then those are the ones I want, unless they are like a 50 dollar difference from the HID's....are u sure HID's are in new Mercedes and BMW's?
There is a guy on ebay who sells premium quality Xenon headlights, and I have these on my Maxima. His seller ID is *zenon* A relative of mine has a new Infiniti with the HID headlights (purplish tint) and my new Xenon bulbs, which cost me $18 on Ebay, look almost exactly like the HIDs. I'm really happy with these lights - they're awesome in bad weather, and I like the purplish/blueish color they make. You look like a BMW or Infiniti coming down the road...I DEFINITELY recommend them! Here's a link to the bulbs:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...239952&r=0&t=0
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Re: Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Finally a fake bulb endorsed by the .org.

The bulbs are overwattage though, so the statement on the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...239952&r=0&t=0 does not really count:
BEST of all, these bulbs have been designed to prevent any damage to the lens or harness--unlike many cheap bulbs available on the market.

Bulbs are overwattage, so brightness should be fine. But you'll need a harness upgrade though ... my 0.02
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Re: Re: Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Looks like the fogs are overwattage too?

I don't know if they make a harness upgrade for fogs ... do they?
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Re: Re: Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Originally posted by pocketrocket
Finally a fake bulb endorsed by the .org.

The bulbs are overwattage though, so the statement on the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...239952&r=0&t=0 does not really count:
BEST of all, these bulbs have been designed to prevent any damage to the lens or harness--unlike many cheap bulbs available on the market.

Bulbs are overwattage, so brightness should be fine. But you'll need a harness upgrade though ... my 0.02
What do you mean "you'll need a harness upgrade though"? I didn't do this...should I?
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Re: Re: THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

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There is a guy on ebay who sells premium quality Xenon headlights, and I have these on my Maxima. His seller ID is *zenon* A relative of mine has a new Infiniti with the HID headlights (purplish tint) and my new Xenon bulbs, which cost me $18 on Ebay, look almost exactly like the HIDs. I'm really happy with these lights - they're awesome in bad weather, and I like the purplish/blueish color they make. You look like a BMW or Infiniti coming down the road...I DEFINITELY recommend them! Here's a link to the bulbs:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...239952&r=0&t=0
i read the facts on these bulbs and they say they are especially made to NOT burn out harness's and other wires....if this is the case do I need to buy a new harness? Also, do the front and corner lamps take the same bulb? the reason why the corner's never look like the front is because the lamps are tinted a little but if it's possible to change them, I would...I just need to know how much they cost. When i go for bright whites, i'm going ALL OUT!!

also, i already have some bright whites, never changed the harness, had them for like a good year and some change but they suck, paid some dough for them too....like 40 bucks...they are better than the manufacturer lights, well brighter but anything close to HID's at a quarter of the price are what i'm digging....so my questions are....

How much are CLEAR CORNER LAMPS?
DO I NEED TO BUY A NEW HARNESS FOR BULBS ESPECIALLY MADE TO NOT BURN OUT HARNESS?
DO FRONT AND CORNER LAMPS TAKE THE SAME BULBS?
DO FOG LIGHTS TAKE SAME LIGHTS?



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