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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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maint. items sticky?

where's the maint. items sticky?
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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Re: maint. items sticky?

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where's the maint. items sticky?
Yeah, I can't find it either ... used to be http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=45742 but now it comes up as an invalid thread.

Accidentally deleted?

We NEED it to answer all the frequent q's, like what part #s for hood struts, drain plug, etc etc etc

clee, shingles, anyone?
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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probably re-appear soon.

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Old Feb 7, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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maintenance items post?

Did I miss something? What happened to the maintenance items sticky post?
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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It has been removed.
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Why? It was really useful information. (Btw, thank you for putting it up in the first place.)
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Issues with other problem members. Until it is resolved to my satisfaction, the info I created will remain locked away.


It's not personal, just a principle.


Until then, most of the stuff can be obtained through a forum search anyway.
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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Why not just lock away those members instead?
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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Why not just lock away those members instead?
Jambo has the authority to do so, and I do not. Otherwise, it would be a moot point.
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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What did these guys do? (You don't have to answer if you don't want to, just thinking "out loud"...) You've certainly dealt with problem members before. (I've been reading long before I started posting.)

On a side note, you combined the two threads, right? I went to read the reply and noticed the thread topic was different...
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by donut
What did these guys do? (You don't have to answer if you don't want to, just thinking "out loud"...) You've certainly dealt with problem members before. (I've been reading long before I started posting.)

On a side note, you combined the two threads, right? I went to read the reply and noticed the thread topic was different...
it is better if you do not ask...

let it alone and soone the threads will come back...
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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I hope it wasn't me that got it locked away. I pointed out to bill a couple days ago that a couple links weren't working (specifically around the 300zx fuel filter), of course it did say "if you have reached this page in error please report to a moderator"
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:34 PM
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It isn't you. If anything, this post shows that you actually did read the stickies and care enough to tell the creator a way to improve upon it.

Originally posted by sarmast
I hope it wasn't me that got it locked away. I pointed out to bill a couple days ago that a couple links weren't working (specifically around the 300zx fuel filter), of course it did say "if you have reached this page in error please report to a moderator"
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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Damn, I really need that maintinance FAQ right about now.

I "reported" the broken link to the maintinance thread to y'all admins, but never received a responce back... I guess this is why.

I really have no idea why any member here could say or do something that would make you feel like you should hide the maintinance thread.

If they bother you that much, ban them- but why punish other people who need to keep their maxima up and running?

I did a search and asked a question the board with no real answers (reguarding O2 sensor replacement) to no avail. I seem to recall that maintinance thread mentioning O2 sensors in some detail.

Please get the thread back as soon as you can- it's being very sorely missed.
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So you guys have a personal problem with people and you block everyone? What's that all about? Way to work things out like adults
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It just goes to show how a few problem members can spoil it for the rest of the forum. If you are serious about getting these items back, post a formal and INTELLIGENT request in the feedback. Maybe others will add their thoughts too. I bet if you do it right, they would come back

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So you guys have a personal problem with people and you block everyone? What's that all about? Way to work things out like adults
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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Riiiiight...

We have to beg you to bring the 4th gen FAQs back because of something one person said to you?

I'm sorry but that's frikin' childish.

So let me get this straight... one person hurt your feelings so now you want someone else to give you an a$$-kissing to make you feel better?

That sounds about as grown up as somebody calling your mother fat in the 3rd grade so you go hide in the corner until the teacher makes them apologize to you and tells you that you are special.

Give me a break...
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Threxx
Riiiiight...

We have to beg you to bring the 4th gen FAQs back because of something one person said to you?

I'm sorry but that's frikin' childish.

So let me get this straight... one person hurt your feelings so now you want someone else to give you an a$$-kissing to make you feel better?

That sounds about as grown up as somebody calling your mother fat in the 3rd grade so you go hide in the corner until the teacher makes them apologize to you and tells you that you are special.

Give me a break...
If you wanna be a man, please talk to the man. And it ain't Jeff or clee.

No one is asking you to beg for anything.

It's members like yourself that would rather whine and b!tch rather than do something constructive that prevents me from re-listing them.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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Well that would just about convince Bill.

Tell you what, how about you write a few articles and we will start a new one? I wrote some, how about you?



Originally posted by Threxx
Riiiiight...

We have to beg you to bring the 4th gen FAQs back because of something one person said to you?

I'm sorry but that's frikin' childish.

So let me get this straight... one person hurt your feelings so now you want someone else to give you an a$$-kissing to make you feel better?

That sounds about as grown up as somebody calling your mother fat in the 3rd grade so you go hide in the corner until the teacher makes them apologize to you and tells you that you are special.

Give me a break...
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
If you wanna be a man, please talk to the man.


Huh?? When did I say anything about being a man? Do you need an ego check or what.


No one is asking you to beg for anything.
Remember back when you were 16 years old and your mother took the keys to the car away. When she said "You're going to have to convince me to give the keys back", what was she essentially telling you to do? Beg her, tell her you'll be good again, and maybe even kiss her a$$ a little bit. But the thing is, you took the Maxima Maintinance FAQ back, and now you're asking people who never did anything wrong in the first place to do something to get it back.

It's members like yourself that would rather whine and b!tch rather than do something constructive that prevents me from re-listing them.
You've got to be kidding! Please, get over yourself.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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Well that would just about convince Bill.
Huh?


Tell you what, how about you write a few articles and we will start a new one? I wrote some, how about you?
See the difference here is I'm a new guy on this board, and just a member at that. You are a established member and moderator, who is supposed to lead by example.

I'm a webmaster by trade and I sure as hell don't tell the people that visit my websites that they need to contribute to the site before I will. Nobody would ever visit if that was the case.

The fact is I joined this board to learn about Maximas because I don't know a whole lot about them. If you want me to write a FAQ about car stereo tech, domestic RWD V8s, network administration, etc... stuff that I know about, I probably would have. But why and how would you expect me to write an article on something I know nothing about?

But if I did know about Maximas, and wrote the maintinance FAQ for the board... and one or two of the members here said something offensive to me, that last thing I would think of doing is deleting the thread and telling the entire population of the board if they ever want to see the thread again, they would have to "convince me".
That's called being childish.

But hey, you asked... so just let me know, and I'll write you a Maxima Maintinance FAQ with everything I know about Maxima Maintinance, and you go ahead and make it a permanent sticky post, and if anyone here ever makes me mad, I'll take it away from the entire board as punishment for the actions of just one or two people who they don't even know.
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Originally posted by Threxx

Huh?



See the difference here is I'm a new guy on this board, and just a member at that. You are a established member and moderator, who is supposed to lead by example.

I'm a webmaster by trade and I sure as hell don't tell the people that visit my websites that they need to contribute to the site before I will. Nobody would ever visit if that was the case.

The fact is I joined this board to learn about Maximas because I don't know a whole lot about them. If you want me to write a FAQ about car stereo tech, domestic RWD V8s, network administration, etc... stuff that I know about, I probably would have. But why and how would you expect me to write an article on something I know nothing about?

But if I did know about Maximas, and wrote the maintinance FAQ for the board... and one or two of the members here said something offensive to me, that last thing I would think of doing is deleting the thread and telling the entire population of the board if they ever want to see the thread again, they would have to "convince me".
That's called being childish.

But hey, you asked... so just let me know, and I'll write you a Maxima Maintinance FAQ with everything I know about Maxima Maintinance, and you go ahead and make it a permanent sticky post, and if anyone here ever makes me mad, I'll take it away from the entire board as punishment for the actions of just one or two people who they don't even know.
I don't desire an ego-boosting, as I am full enough of myself already. I have removed my contribution because I chose to. I don't like the direction this site is taking, so I have let my feelings be known through actions, not doublespeak.

I'm relieved you know the entire history of all that has transpired that has lead me to this action. And it's also good to know it was just one or two people that caused it.

I have a different impression, but hey what do I know? I've just been here several more years......
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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1) It's not deleted
2) Go ahead and write what you know.
3) Make sure someone calls you an outright liar and personally insults you and tells you your "information" sucks/wrong before you delete your information.

No one asked you to beg. Stickies are not a requirement, it's a privledge. So if your mom took the car keys for a car she gave to you because you personally insulted her, then yeah you would have some reason to get it back.

All people have to do is write in the feedback, "hey Bill, that information was great, consider putting them back." So far I have seen just a smattering of requests here and even fewer in the feedback. If you cannot expell 1% of the effort that the people who were kind enough to write them, why exactly should they be brought back?

Originally posted by Threxx


But hey, you asked... so just let me know, and I'll write you a Maxima Maintinance FAQ with everything I know about Maxima Maintinance, and you go ahead and make it a permanent sticky post, and if anyone here ever makes me mad, I'll take it away from the entire board as punishment for the actions of just one or two people who they don't even know.
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
1) It's not deleted
2) Go ahead and write what you know.
3) Make sure someone calls you an outright liar and personally insults you and tells you your "information" sucks/wrong before you delete your information.

No one asked you to beg. Stickies are not a requirement, it's a privledge. So if your mom took the car keys for a car she gave to you because you personally insulted her, then yeah you would have some reason to get it back.

All people have to do is write in the feedback, "hey Bill, that information was great, consider putting them back." So far I have seen just a smattering of requests here and even fewer in the feedback. If you cannot expell 1% of the effort that the people who were kind enough to write them, why exactly should they be brought back?

You seem to be missing the point entirely. How childish is it to remove the information because you've been insulted? If he wants to take it down, fine. It's his post to do what he wants to with it. But there are some people that feel the reasons for doing it are very immature. People are insulted on this bored daily. But no one runs off, deletes their posts, and hides in a corner. Time to join the big boys in the real world.
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Originally posted by JdawgX


You seem to be missing the point entirely. How childish is it to remove the information because you've been insulted? If he wants to take it down, fine. It's his post to do what he wants to with it. But there are some people that feel the reasons for doing it are very immature. People are insulted on this bored daily. But no one runs off, deletes their posts, and hides in a corner. Time to join the big boys in the real world.
Again, I'm glad everyone knows the entire circumstance as why it was removed.


I've been insulted on this site daily for a couple of years. So, the "thin skin" comment is laughable.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe


Again, I'm glad everyone knows the entire circumstance as why it was removed.


I've been insulted on this site daily for a couple of years. So, the "thin skin" comment is laughable.
Then why are you still here? I'm insulted here frequently. The site seems to be full of whiners, rich boys, and know it alls. I'm not going after you personally, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. I just think that to pull the posts down because you were insulted is chilish. Daniel B had problems, and so he left the site. But he didn't delete all of his posts before he left. That's all that I'm trying to say here.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe


Again, I'm glad everyone knows the entire circumstance as why it was removed.


I've been insulted on this site daily for a couple of years. So, the "thin skin" comment is laughable.
Again, people might be able to sympathize with you more if you actually told us a few details as to what happened.

If you've been insulted daily for the past couple of years, don't you think there might be a reason for it? I mean, I've been a member of several UBBs for 3+ years and yeah I get flamed once every blue moon or so, but so what, that's life. If you are getting flamed faily, there's probably more of a reason to it... people don't just look at your user name and say "hmmm... that sounds like somebody I want to be mad at".
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I'm not quite sure you get insulted to the same degree as the moderators are/were/will be. Most of the really bad stuff gets deleted(it's our job). Personally, I can't fault Bill for his actions. His opinion is just as valid as anyone elses. I understand why you feel it's petty but again, most of the stuff leading up to it, was probably deleted. This is just my opinion only but:

1) Letting the .org know though the feedback that the stuff was appreciated and would be nice to have back will help.

2) Accussing Bill of this or that, telling him what he should do or being negative won't do anything to get the info back.

That how I see it.

Originally posted by JdawgX


You seem to be missing the point entirely. How childish is it to remove the information because you've been insulted? If he wants to take it down, fine. It's his post to do what he wants to with it. But there are some people that feel the reasons for doing it are very immature. People are insulted on this bored daily. But no one runs off, deletes their posts, and hides in a corner. Time to join the big boys in the real world.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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How do you guys expect newbies and people who don't own Maximas to learn anything about Maxes if you remove this information? Isn't that the point of this site's existence...?
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Like Jeff said, post in the Feedback Forum and simply ask that the stickies be brought back. Others have already posted in this thread saying that the stickies were extremely helpful, most of them non-newbies.

It's amazing what a little "Thank you for putting the stickies together Bill. It's been really helpful and useful." can do.

I don't think anyone has PMed or emailed me for putting up the 4th gen FAQs. People have contributed, sure... which I am extremely grateful and made sure to credit them in the thread ... but no one has actually thanked me for putting it together and making it a sticky.

Originally posted by YDRSBTR
How do you guys expect newbies and people who don't own Maximas to learn anything about Maxes if you remove this information? Isn't that the point of this site's existence...?
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How do you guys expect newbies and people who don't own Maximas to learn anything about Maxes if you remove this information? Isn't that the point of this site's existence...?
There is always search.

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Sometimes a "good job," "the sticky you put together was really helpful," "thanks for the info," etc. can go a REALLY long way.
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Sometimes a "good job," "the sticky you put together was really helpful," "thanks for the info," etc. can go a REALLY long way.
Ok, here goes. Good job on putting together the 4th gen maint. items. It is really helpful in diagnosing problems and improving a max without having to go to a stinking lieing dealer. I would never have known (and the dealer would never have told me) that I could use the 300zx filter on my car unless I studied the specs on both it and the standard max filter.. so that was helpful. Also, the check engine codes sticky literally saved me money, which I always appreciate. So, thanks for taking the time to put it together. If I do something to my max in the future that I have not already seen a step by step on, I'll do one myself for the benefit of all maXkind.
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Originally posted by SuDZ


There is always search.

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Much wisdom in those words as that's how they were created in the first place.


None of the actual info has been deleted. Just the combination of them into a couple of threads has.



And I have had plenty of complements through PMs and e-mails over the past year to know the sticky stuff is useful and helpful to many out there.

As I have stated when actions are taken regarding how this site is utilized to my satisfaction, then the stickies have a good chance to be returned.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe



Much wisdom in those words as that's how they were created in the first place.


None of the actual info has been deleted. Just the combination of them into a couple of threads has.



And I have had plenty of complements through PMs and e-mails over the past year to know the sticky stuff is useful and helpful to many out there.

As I have stated when actions are taken regarding how this site is utilized to my satisfaction, then the stickies have a good chance to be returned.
Well I know you must have your reasons. I mean you have contributed so much to the site, which would not make sence why some of these people think after so much help your trying to hurt it by taking back your information. Hope everything works out for you and you can get it back because it is a wealth of information in there.

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i agree that the stickies were valuable and helpful

and i really do appreciate the effort that was taken to write them.

but i do agree on the other end of the spectrum that it was kinda silly to take them down because of whatever reasons. Unless they were unhelpful, wrong, or outdated, they should remain on the board. and as it pains me to say it, if we couldnt delete our own threads, you would be abusing the moderator power. JUST MY OPINIONS.

but i never said they were helpful because thats a given, thanks for putting them up. guys like you rock. and i wasnt ******* you for taking them down, i was giving my opinion, heck i dont even know what was said, maybe you should have taken them down.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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To Bill and Clee:

For what is worth, the stickies are very helpful and provide quick information about frequently asked questions. If a couple of members offended you or felt the info was inaccurate, there are many more members that feel otherwise. The maintenance and FAQ's are an asset to this forum and it would be much appreciated if they are put back. Personally they helped me to and understand many areas of my car. I don't think I'm alone on this one but people just won't admit it. I am a big enough man to say I don't know everything!
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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THe stickys are great. I love them. I wish to have children with them, if it were only possable. Bring them back, thanks.
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe

As I have stated when actions are taken regarding how this site is utilized to my satisfaction, then the stickies have a good chance to be returned.
Could you be a little less cryptic? What actions? By who? You need to spell it out for dummies like me.
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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The Irony of this whole situation is that the two members who caused this problem are 5th Gen Owners.. two of which don't visit this forum and the stickies have no benefit too.. *shrug*

but this whole place has gone to **** in the last few days.. what do i care.. *shrug*

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