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Old Feb 7, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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"Toluene" rocket like gas additive magical or myth???

Hello guys, check out this link and please all opinions are welcomed!!! What are the benefits of Toluene in our maxi's, or is it just a bunch of SH*T? HERE IS THE LINK:

http://home.kscable.com/ssutton/miat...e/toluene.html
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Why not just put some super-octane Jet fuel in our cars?
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Re: "Toluene" rocket like gas additive magical or myth???

all it does is boost your octane level no real gains.
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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I heard tri-nitro-toluene works well... you can get it from ACME
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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our car only needs 91-93 octane, nothing more nothing less, less will make it retard timing, anything above 94 will make the explosion to controlled. The number of the octane(e.g. 93) is what percent of it is octane(i did a lot of research this a couple years ago, so there might be small errors, but this is generally all facts) a controllable substance, what evers left, u subtract from 100, 100-93=7, there fore making it 7 percent heptane, a very unorderly spontaneous explosive gas. the more octane in the mix(higher grade) the more controlled it is, the less octane the more spontaneous(thats why our car has to retard timing in lower grades of octane, too spontaneous, we have more compression). its not necessarily, that the higher the octane the better, its more on what your car needs, hondas that require 87 or 89 at most will actually lose horspower with higher octanes, we need 91-93 or i guess you could throw 94 in there, but not worth the price of it, therefore we use it, its not that its "better" which sometimes it can be, but its more what our car needs.
heres what happens when kids get whatever they want, so they assume they know **** about cars cuz they can afford it and dont do research, kid i knew has a completely decked out civic, puts jet fuel in his car, rates of 99-100+ octane, and takes it to the track, if i remember he lost a second or more of what he normally ran, he assumed, oooo its jettt fuel and its more exspensive, it has to be better!! message me if this needs cleared up, and correct me for any spots i flawed, like i said i did a lot of research on this for a project, but it was a couple years ago,
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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guys come on lets get serious, jet fuel is an entirely different compound then gasoline, and quite simply cannot be put into a car. I've put JP-8 into a 6 cylinder jeep before, i was quite impressed it ran like a bat out of hell for 5 minutes then seized, and burned every valve to a stick. Octane does nothing performance wise for a vehicle, it does however allow modifications with timing and most notably compression. I have a supercharger and only run 91, and i do just fine. I do keep my boost down though, i might consider upgrading if i upped the boost level.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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that stuff may make your engine run a bit cleaner, but you wont notice any gains most likely
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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JWT ECU octane?

I know the normal octane to be run in our cars is 93. What about with an advanced timing ECU like JWT? What is the correct octane for that ECU?
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by Chunger
I heard tri-nitro-toluene works well... you can get it from ACME
tri-nitro-toluene?! That's hilarious! Do you by any chance know Wile E. Coyote.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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Re: JWT ECU octane?

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I know the normal octane to be run in our cars is 93. What about with an advanced timing ECU like JWT? What is the correct octane for that ECU?
I think he still recommends Super Unleaded. I think though waht the manual actually says for us is 91+ not 93. So if your running 93 even with the JWT upgrade you will be fine.

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Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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Toluene will raise the octane rating a 'tad'... but won't do anything else for the engine. I used to purchase a product called "Lead Supreme 130" that was real tetraethyl lead (used in old leaded gas) mixed in with toluene. The toluene was just a base to mix the lead with. I talked to the guy who sold it, and he said the toluene might raise the octane a tad, but wasn't any big deal. (This was used on the mustang, which has no oxygen sensors or converters to contaminate)

Jet fuel, kerosene, and diesel fuel are pretty much all the same thing. These fuels have a high energy content, but offer slow burn rates and EXTREMELY low octane. Don't ever use these in a gasoline engine. Kerosene was used sometimes in old early 1900's model T Fords and tractors... but they had compression ratios around 6:1.

Good Luck!
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