speeding
03-21-2002, 03:12 PM
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speeding
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
03-21-2002, 03:14 PM
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Re: speeding
Originally posted by robbyrob
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
03-21-2002, 03:18 PM
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Re: speeding
Originally posted by robbyrob
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
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03-21-2002, 03:27 PM
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Re: speeding
You might want to check the ticket first. If the ticket says it's a correctable violation then you can go to traffic school and points will not appear on your record.
My friend got hit with a 110 mph ticket while heading to Vegas. The officer gave him a noncorrectable violation and he received 2 pts. on his record. But his insurance company is cool about it (Geico), and they dismissed his first offense.
My friend got hit with a 110 mph ticket while heading to Vegas. The officer gave him a noncorrectable violation and he received 2 pts. on his record. But his insurance company is cool about it (Geico), and they dismissed his first offense.
03-21-2002, 05:40 PM
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Re: speeding
A similar question was asked on one of BMW forums and everyone said "Pay it like a man"...yeah more like "pay it and become a looser".
I say fight it. You might get lucky and have that fine or points reduced.
I say fight it. You might get lucky and have that fine or points reduced.
03-21-2002, 06:10 PM
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here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
03-21-2002, 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by densetsu
here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
03-21-2002, 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by multiplexor
i heard this used to work. But the system has been corrected now. I doubt it will work anymore
i heard this used to work. But the system has been corrected now. I doubt it will work anymore
03-21-2002, 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by multiplexor
i heard this used to work. But the system has been corrected now. I doubt it will work anymore
i heard this used to work. But the system has been corrected now. I doubt it will work anymore
03-21-2002, 08:13 PM
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Shouldnt have to worry. Just pay the ticket or fight it if you want to go back down there. SInce you do not have a South Carolina license i pretty sure no points will go on. I had teh instant on turned on me too, on the turnpike luckily for me i was doing the 30mph in a curve as i was getting on. Anywayz you shouldnt have a problem, check the south carolina DMV website and see what the rules are.
03-22-2002, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by BowieMax
I always thought that if you were going more than 25 over the limit, your liscense gets suspended. Also my ex-g/f got her Jersey liscense suspended from too many points, yet never got a ticket IN New Jersey.
I always thought that if you were going more than 25 over the limit, your liscense gets suspended. Also my ex-g/f got her Jersey liscense suspended from too many points, yet never got a ticket IN New Jersey.
03-22-2002, 05:31 AM
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If you are a NYS Driver, any points from a state other than NY will not affect you-->
Originally posted by robbyrob
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
just returning from florida in my 99 max se. had my radar on an all, just switched lanes to pass a couple of vehicles and i got hit by the instant on radar ka-band. this was on I-95 N in south carolina. the uniformed officer in the camaro pulled out from under the overpass and follwed me a 1/2 mile. he then turned on his lights and pulled me over. he gave a ticket for $403. doing 101 in a 70. will this affect my isurance? what i mean is will the points besent to ny? i have a ny state license. please help, anyone out there had any experience like this? i'm just worried about the points, its 6 points i beleive, do the follow to ny? thanks
Just pay the fine and be done with it. If you try to get slick and not pay the fine (like many people used to do) you will/can be arrested if you are ever caught in the state of the offense at a later date.
HOWEVER, 25+ over the posted speed limit would be reckless driving in S.Carolina. See this link for details :http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/laws.html
You may need to return to the state for a hearing and possible additional fines, unless the reckless driving charge is included in the $403. Read the summons carefully, very carefully.
You do not want to make a mistake on this one. I have a vacation home in S.Carolina and an NYS drivers license, and I've gotten ticketed in S.Carolina once before.
Now, on another note, why the hell were you driving so darn fast. You absolutely cannot drive that fast anywhere on the I-95 corridor and not get caught. IF you don't then you're just plain lucky.
03-22-2002, 05:34 AM
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To fight the ticket, you must appear in court-->
Originally posted by AndyXXL
A similar question was asked on one of BMW forums and everyone said "Pay it like a man"...yeah more like "pay it and become a looser".
I say fight it. You might get lucky and have that fine or points reduced.
A similar question was asked on one of BMW forums and everyone said "Pay it like a man"...yeah more like "pay it and become a looser".
I say fight it. You might get lucky and have that fine or points reduced.
03-22-2002, 05:36 AM
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I met with a few S.Carolina troopers before-->
Originally posted by Conrad283
wow you got pulled over by a camaro ... i'm 99% sure that the points do NOT come with you to NY becuase my friend got a similar ticket, but no points .... i'm not sure about the insurance however
wow you got pulled over by a camaro ... i'm 99% sure that the points do NOT come with you to NY becuase my friend got a similar ticket, but no points .... i'm not sure about the insurance however
Do NOT try to run from them, they will catch you!!
There was also the time back in the early 90's where S.C. was running M5 police cars. (Donation from BMW for allowing the BMW plant to be built there)
03-22-2002, 05:46 AM
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It depends
First. that story about paying more than the fine sounds suspiciously like urban legend to me. Don't believe it.
Second, whether you receive points on your license in NY depends on whether NY has "reciprocity" with SC or not -- having reciprocity means the two states trade information on violations. Some states share info, some don't. If they share info, you've got a problem and may want to fight the ticket depending on what NY will do to you for a 101 in a 70, probably not a pretty sight. And, if NY and SC share, NY *WILL* find out. Its simply a matter of time.
I would do some research and learn a little more before you decide what to do. If it turns out SC and NY have reciprocity and NY would ding you big time, you might want to consider talking to a local lawyer (SC local, not NY local, you yankee you) and see what they have to say. If nothing else you might be able to negotiate during a court appearance and reduce the alleged speed to 19 over or something.
Lastly, you might just luck out if you show up for court. Since you were from out of state (way out of state in fact) the trooper might anticipate that you wouldn't come back to fight the ticket and could have given you a bogus court date on the tix -- one that he/she had no intention of showing up on and reserves just for out-of-staters.
If none of this works out, you can always join www.bicycle.org
Good luck
Second, whether you receive points on your license in NY depends on whether NY has "reciprocity" with SC or not -- having reciprocity means the two states trade information on violations. Some states share info, some don't. If they share info, you've got a problem and may want to fight the ticket depending on what NY will do to you for a 101 in a 70, probably not a pretty sight. And, if NY and SC share, NY *WILL* find out. Its simply a matter of time.
I would do some research and learn a little more before you decide what to do. If it turns out SC and NY have reciprocity and NY would ding you big time, you might want to consider talking to a local lawyer (SC local, not NY local, you yankee you) and see what they have to say. If nothing else you might be able to negotiate during a court appearance and reduce the alleged speed to 19 over or something.
Lastly, you might just luck out if you show up for court. Since you were from out of state (way out of state in fact) the trooper might anticipate that you wouldn't come back to fight the ticket and could have given you a bogus court date on the tix -- one that he/she had no intention of showing up on and reserves just for out-of-staters.
If none of this works out, you can always join www.bicycle.org
Good luck
03-22-2002, 06:30 AM
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Re: I met with a few S.Carolina troopers before-->
Originally posted by Jimbrowski
They have unmarked Camaro's, Firebirds, Grand Prix GTP's and a few other "secret weapons" I had posted about this a while ago. They have unmarked C5 Vettes as well.
Do NOT try to run from them, they will catch you!!
There was also the time back in the early 90's where S.C. was running M5 police cars. (Donation from BMW for allowing the BMW plant to be built there)
They have unmarked Camaro's, Firebirds, Grand Prix GTP's and a few other "secret weapons" I had posted about this a while ago. They have unmarked C5 Vettes as well.
Do NOT try to run from them, they will catch you!!
There was also the time back in the early 90's where S.C. was running M5 police cars. (Donation from BMW for allowing the BMW plant to be built there)
03-22-2002, 06:34 AM
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Does not work in NY any more. They return your check with a letter stating the mistake and catalog it as non-payment, and issue a warrant, maybe even suspend your license. Don't know how it works in other states.
Originally posted by densetsu
here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
03-22-2002, 06:35 AM
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another option?
Got a ticket in Kentucy and they had a deal where you could do a home video (about 4 hours worth) and then the ticket did not get reported for points or insurance. I did it.
Call to the phone number on the ticket and GET SPECIFIC DETAILS. Ask how you can avoid points and higher insurance rates BEFORE you decide what to do. Good luck.
Call to the phone number on the ticket and GET SPECIFIC DETAILS. Ask how you can avoid points and higher insurance rates BEFORE you decide what to do. Good luck.
03-22-2002, 06:41 AM
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Re: Re: Re: I met with a few S.Carolina troopers before-->
Originally posted by AndyXXL
6-speed transmission was offered on 2.7T since 2000.
6-speed transmission was offered on 2.7T since 2000.
03-22-2002, 06:53 AM
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Re: If you are a NYS Driver, any points from a state other than NY will not affect you-->
Yup. What he said. Part of the reason I make my roadtrips out of NY state 
DW
DW
Originally posted by Jimbrowski
Unless you receive a ticket in Ontario or Quebec, or unless the ticket is the result of a DWI or DWAI.
Just pay the fine and be done with it. If you try to get slick and not pay the fine (like many people used to do) you will/can be arrested if you are ever caught in the state of the offense at a later date.
HOWEVER, 25+ over the posted speed limit would be reckless driving in S.Carolina. See this link for details :http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/laws.html
You may need to return to the state for a hearing and possible additional fines, unless the reckless driving charge is included in the $403. Read the summons carefully, very carefully.
You do not want to make a mistake on this one. I have a vacation home in S.Carolina and an NYS drivers license, and I've gotten ticketed in S.Carolina once before.
Now, on another note, why the hell were you driving so darn fast. You absolutely cannot drive that fast anywhere on the I-95 corridor and not get caught. IF you don't then you're just plain lucky.
Unless you receive a ticket in Ontario or Quebec, or unless the ticket is the result of a DWI or DWAI.
Just pay the fine and be done with it. If you try to get slick and not pay the fine (like many people used to do) you will/can be arrested if you are ever caught in the state of the offense at a later date.
HOWEVER, 25+ over the posted speed limit would be reckless driving in S.Carolina. See this link for details :http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/laws.html
You may need to return to the state for a hearing and possible additional fines, unless the reckless driving charge is included in the $403. Read the summons carefully, very carefully.
You do not want to make a mistake on this one. I have a vacation home in S.Carolina and an NYS drivers license, and I've gotten ticketed in S.Carolina once before.
Now, on another note, why the hell were you driving so darn fast. You absolutely cannot drive that fast anywhere on the I-95 corridor and not get caught. IF you don't then you're just plain lucky.
03-22-2002, 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by densetsu
here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
here's a trick i read in car and driver a while back(not sure which issue)
when you pay the ticket send a check for more money than you owe. ie. ticket: $100, send: $105. since you sent extra, by law they must send you a check back for it. this is the tricky part. dont cash the $5 check they send you, instead burn it. since they can't add points until all monatary transactions are completed, your points will just be waiting there. im not sure if this works everywhere, but i remember reading it. i tried it last month on my ticket and ill let you guys know what happens.
03-22-2002, 09:39 AM
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something else
Sorry to hear of your ticket, but I hope this expensive lesson taught you something. Having a radar detector does not free you to drive recklessly. Going over 80mph on these older highways out East is just plain careless. There is no good reason to go that fast. You not only put yourself at risk, but even more importantly the innocent lives of others.
You've received some excellent suggestions in this thread. I hope you can escape this without an insurance penalty or points.
Good luck.
You've received some excellent suggestions in this thread. I hope you can escape this without an insurance penalty or points.
Good luck.
03-24-2002, 01:46 PM
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thanks to all, i am gonna try to fight, or should i say get a lawyer and try to get the charges reduced. the only thing is the lawyers in sc want $400(legal fees) and $403(amount of the ticket) all in advance. yes i've called all around. about the same price and conditions. if any of you knows a good law firm or lawyers down there please let me know. you all are right i shouldn't have gone that fast. but i learned my lesson, right 
just the thought of all this money, my max would have loved it. now those mods i wanted will have to wait.
just the thought of all this money, my max would have loved it. now those mods i wanted will have to wait.
03-24-2002, 02:30 PM
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In Ontario there's a rumor going around...
that if you overpay the ticket, by like, $5, the government keeps a "balance" open (as they now owe you money) and the ticket never finishes processing -- that is, they don't close out the issue, and the points don't go to the insurance company...
BUt, its only a rumor....
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BUt, its only a rumor....
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