190hrs, is it really enough?
#1
190hrs, is it really enough?
Whats up guys, just this past weekend i went camping to Pensylvania, had a fun time, and got to learn something about my 97 SE. The car was loaded with crap in the trunk and in the back seat with me 140lb, my friend 150lb and my other friend 220lb. There car would seem to pick up speed at a decent paste once on no hill, but as soon as i would start climbing up a not too steap hill at all, the most i would get is 40mph on my speedometer. I would floor it too and the most i would get is 40, kinda felt emberassed infront of my buddies, having a 40 year old dodge pick up honking at me for going so slow. So is it really that 190horses are just simply not enough for this car, or do i need to do some serious maintanence on my baby? What do you guys think?
#3
Originally posted by blizz20oma
What were you carrying in the trunk??? Did you accidentally run over Oprah and threw her carcass in the back out of impulse??
What were you carrying in the trunk??? Did you accidentally run over Oprah and threw her carcass in the back out of impulse??
#4
Your car has problems unless you forgot to mention you were climbing Pikes Peak. No wait, your car should go faster than 40 even up that but you would be dead.
First off, do you have any "idiot" lights on. If you do use the stickies and decode it then search about your problem and tell us.
If you don't have any lights, do this. Get a buddy with a stop watch and time how long it takes you to go from 0-60. If it takes much more than 8 seconds, get a tune-up then try again. Not very scientific, but it seems effective. Chances are you need a tune up anyway.
And if you seem to be picking up fine remember, the Maxima is a car, not a truck. When its loaded up with stuff, it's gonna feel like it.
First off, do you have any "idiot" lights on. If you do use the stickies and decode it then search about your problem and tell us.
If you don't have any lights, do this. Get a buddy with a stop watch and time how long it takes you to go from 0-60. If it takes much more than 8 seconds, get a tune-up then try again. Not very scientific, but it seems effective. Chances are you need a tune up anyway.
And if you seem to be picking up fine remember, the Maxima is a car, not a truck. When its loaded up with stuff, it's gonna feel like it.
#5
Originally posted by 97GLE
Your car has problems unless you forgot to mention you were climbing Pikes Peak. No wait, your car should go faster than 40 even up that but you would be dead.
First off, do you have any "idiot" lights on. If you do use the stickies and decode it then search about your problem and tell us.
If you don't have any lights, do this. Get a buddy with a stop watch and time how long it takes you to go from 0-60. If it takes much more than 8 seconds, get a tune-up then try again. Not very scientific, but it seems effective. Chances are you need a tune up anyway.
And if you seem to be picking up fine remember, the Maxima is a car, not a truck. When its loaded up with stuff, it's gonna feel like it.
Your car has problems unless you forgot to mention you were climbing Pikes Peak. No wait, your car should go faster than 40 even up that but you would be dead.
First off, do you have any "idiot" lights on. If you do use the stickies and decode it then search about your problem and tell us.
If you don't have any lights, do this. Get a buddy with a stop watch and time how long it takes you to go from 0-60. If it takes much more than 8 seconds, get a tune-up then try again. Not very scientific, but it seems effective. Chances are you need a tune up anyway.
And if you seem to be picking up fine remember, the Maxima is a car, not a truck. When its loaded up with stuff, it's gonna feel like it.
Nah, dont have no 'idiot' lights on, i dont really know what you mean by that.. but i drove at night and during the day and the car seemed to be doint the same thing. I got a tune up about three weeks ago, also had my idle adjusted in the Nissan Dealership, while i was there they test drove it, said it runs fine and accelerates fine, i remember them saying it because i asked them if i needed to clean my Throttle Control and they said no. Anyway, i guess next time we'll take two cars...
#6
Nah, dont have no 'idiot' lights on, i dont really know what you mean by that.. but i drove at night and during the day and the car seemed to be doint the same thing. I got a tune up about three weeks ago, also had my idle adjusted in the Nissan Dealership, while i was there they test drove it, said it runs fine and accelerates fine, i remember them saying it because i asked them if i needed to clean my Throttle Control and they said no. Anyway, i guess next time we'll take two cars...
#9
Dont worry. It was the 400lbs of friends and gear you were carrying.
Okay, lets assume that you and your max weight 3200 lbs together (this is probably close to correct). This makes your weight to HP ratio 3200 / 190 = 16.9 pounds per HP.
Add 400 lbs opf friends and stuff:
3600 / 190 = 18.9 pounds per HP
That's an increase of 12% so expect all of your perfomance figures to drop at least that much. Even more when going uphill.
A 12% in crease in your normal 7.5 0 - 60 time ends up being 8.4 sec. That'sa big difference.
Dont sweat it, your car isnt that weak, just heavily loaded that day.
Okay, lets assume that you and your max weight 3200 lbs together (this is probably close to correct). This makes your weight to HP ratio 3200 / 190 = 16.9 pounds per HP.
Add 400 lbs opf friends and stuff:
3600 / 190 = 18.9 pounds per HP
That's an increase of 12% so expect all of your perfomance figures to drop at least that much. Even more when going uphill.
A 12% in crease in your normal 7.5 0 - 60 time ends up being 8.4 sec. That'sa big difference.
Dont sweat it, your car isnt that weak, just heavily loaded that day.
#12
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Naaa I thnk he's got a problem. Probably a clogged cat. I had 4 big guys with me luggage and all. We went up into Canada, 80 - 100 MPH all the way. Up hills and all.
Naaa I thnk he's got a problem. Probably a clogged cat. I had 4 big guys with me luggage and all. We went up into Canada, 80 - 100 MPH all the way. Up hills and all.
#13
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Naaa I thnk he's got a problem. Probably a clogged cat. I had 4 big guys with me luggage and all. We went up into Canada, 80 - 100 MPH all the way. Up hills and all.
Naaa I thnk he's got a problem. Probably a clogged cat. I had 4 big guys with me luggage and all. We went up into Canada, 80 - 100 MPH all the way. Up hills and all.
#14
Re: 190hrs, is it really enough?
Originally posted by invaderr
Whats up guys, just this past weekend i went camping to Pensylvania, had a fun time, and got to learn something about my 97 SE. The car was loaded with crap in the trunk and in the back seat with me 140lb, my friend 150lb and my other friend 220lb. There car would seem to pick up speed at a decent paste once on no hill, but as soon as i would start climbing up a not too steap hill at all, the most i would get is 40mph on my speedometer. I would floor it too and the most i would get is 40, kinda felt emberassed infront of my buddies, having a 40 year old dodge pick up honking at me for going so slow. So is it really that 190horses are just simply not enough for this car, or do i need to do some serious maintanence on my baby? What do you guys think?
Whats up guys, just this past weekend i went camping to Pensylvania, had a fun time, and got to learn something about my 97 SE. The car was loaded with crap in the trunk and in the back seat with me 140lb, my friend 150lb and my other friend 220lb. There car would seem to pick up speed at a decent paste once on no hill, but as soon as i would start climbing up a not too steap hill at all, the most i would get is 40mph on my speedometer. I would floor it too and the most i would get is 40, kinda felt emberassed infront of my buddies, having a 40 year old dodge pick up honking at me for going so slow. So is it really that 190horses are just simply not enough for this car, or do i need to do some serious maintanence on my baby? What do you guys think?
#15
heh, yea...I don't think your top speed should be held down (at least at 40mph!) in those circumstances. I used to have to load my little 1.8L acura up to the brim for my job (plus the stereo in there) and run around the city, and even that thing made it around OK with 120-something ft/lbs of torque.
Nobody even snickered at the Oprah joke, I guess everyone's a big fan of the show
Nobody even snickered at the Oprah joke, I guess everyone's a big fan of the show
#16
Where do you live? Colorado above 10,000 feet?
If not then there's something very wrong.
Last week I had in my car(in CT at sea-level):
Me - 180lbs
Fat Dude #1 - ~250lbs
Fat Dude #2 - ~210lbs
Big Black Dude#3 - 310lbs
The trunk held about 50 pounds of gear.
I've got a 98' 5spd with 80k on the original clutch. No power mods.
Felt a little slower accelerating but really not that bad considering and I definitely had to shift lower on steep hills. But there was no problem cruising at around 75mph going up a veerrryyy steep hill I was attempting to scare them on, and it was still pulling.
-RMB
If not then there's something very wrong.
Last week I had in my car(in CT at sea-level):
Me - 180lbs
Fat Dude #1 - ~250lbs
Fat Dude #2 - ~210lbs
Big Black Dude#3 - 310lbs
The trunk held about 50 pounds of gear.
I've got a 98' 5spd with 80k on the original clutch. No power mods.
Felt a little slower accelerating but really not that bad considering and I definitely had to shift lower on steep hills. But there was no problem cruising at around 75mph going up a veerrryyy steep hill I was attempting to scare them on, and it was still pulling.
-RMB
#18
I drove to Florida a couple months ago with the Wife, two kids and the trunk absoulutly jammed with luggage (back end was seriously sagging) and I never felt like I had any problem accelerating or maintaing speed, even on the hills. Get your car checked out.
#19
Re: Re: 190hrs, is it really enough?
Originally posted by alexamparo
i dont wanna scare you but where were your revs doing 40 mph maybe your tranny wasnt shifting. I've had my car loaded pretty heavily with 4 dudes in the car and it still was fast. all i felt a difference in was acceleration not the top speed the car reached. i wasn't going up too many steep hills though but 40mph is ridiculous.
i dont wanna scare you but where were your revs doing 40 mph maybe your tranny wasnt shifting. I've had my car loaded pretty heavily with 4 dudes in the car and it still was fast. all i felt a difference in was acceleration not the top speed the car reached. i wasn't going up too many steep hills though but 40mph is ridiculous.
#21
Originally posted by FJC
What does his being black have to do with it? Are fat dudes considered white unless denoted as blacks?
What does his being black have to do with it? Are fat dudes considered white unless denoted as blacks?
Dave
#22
Originally posted by Dave B
Seriously, are you going to turn this into some kind of racial argument? I read "Big Black Dude = 310lbs" as implying tall and well built.
Dave
Seriously, are you going to turn this into some kind of racial argument? I read "Big Black Dude = 310lbs" as implying tall and well built.
Dave
#26
Originally posted by rmb
Where do you live? Colorado above 10,000 feet?
If not then there's something very wrong.
Last week I had in my car(in CT at sea-level):
Me - 180lbs
Fat Dude #1 - ~250lbs
Fat Dude #2 - ~210lbs
Big Black Dude#3 - 310lbs
The trunk held about 50 pounds of gear.
I've got a 98' 5spd with 80k on the original clutch. No power mods.
Felt a little slower accelerating but really not that bad considering and I definitely had to shift lower on steep hills. But there was no problem cruising at around 75mph going up a veerrryyy steep hill I was attempting to scare them on, and it was still pulling.
-RMB
Where do you live? Colorado above 10,000 feet?
If not then there's something very wrong.
Last week I had in my car(in CT at sea-level):
Me - 180lbs
Fat Dude #1 - ~250lbs
Fat Dude #2 - ~210lbs
Big Black Dude#3 - 310lbs
The trunk held about 50 pounds of gear.
I've got a 98' 5spd with 80k on the original clutch. No power mods.
Felt a little slower accelerating but really not that bad considering and I definitely had to shift lower on steep hills. But there was no problem cruising at around 75mph going up a veerrryyy steep hill I was attempting to scare them on, and it was still pulling.
-RMB
#27
40 MPH in a Maxima.
Even with all the weight in your car, 40 MPH has to be caused by something else. My guess would be that you have a clogged catalytic converter or a clogged gas filter. Either of those things would cause your car to perform poorly.
Good luck determining the problem. I hope you don't have too much hard-earned $$. Ernie
Good luck determining the problem. I hope you don't have too much hard-earned $$. Ernie
#28
I think RMB got it. You live at what altitude above sea level?? That may be it. NA cars like the Maxima will lose power up there. Something like 40 hp just vanishes into thin air.
Turbo and SC cars can make up for it b/c they're BOV or wastegate will still open at the same pressure, so they will open later, giving the car pretty much the same boost as at sea level. Therefore the same power.
DW
Turbo and SC cars can make up for it b/c they're BOV or wastegate will still open at the same pressure, so they will open later, giving the car pretty much the same boost as at sea level. Therefore the same power.
DW
Originally posted by rmb
Where do you live? Colorado above 10,000 feet?
Where do you live? Colorado above 10,000 feet?